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Letho (SPOILERS)

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Colbyachi

Rookie
#1
Jun 22, 2014
Letho (SPOILERS)

I plan on going with roche's path and saving anais, but I am undecided about the fate of letho. On one hand, he killed the king in which trusted me with his life, framed me for it, and I made a promise to roche saying I'd kill him. On the other hand, he is a fellow witcher, he explains himself and his motives rather well, and he is an old friend. However I'm not sure about the emperor's promise to rebuild the school of vipers. I'm sure he'll rebuild it, but would it be like the elven state in which they are forced to serve him or be destroyed, or would he give them independence to act as a witcher school should. I also am curious as to roche's reaction if you break the promise you made him.
 
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StaGiors

Forum veteran
#2
Jun 22, 2014
The only real reason for me, to kill Letho, can be found in that playthrough, following Roche's path. And it is simply Geralt not breaking his promise to Roche. But in my honest opinion, Geralt wouldn't kill Letho anyway. Emhyr has always been a man of his word, so as you said, he would help rebuild the Witcher school of the Viper. I'm sure he could use those witchers, in other plans of his though. But that shouldn't really affect your decision.
 
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Bearkeley

Rookie
#3
Jul 4, 2014
Given the Emperor's track record of using Witchers as political hitmen, you can't exactly take his promises at face value. Foltest did that too, but at least he promised to leave you alone after that.

Personally, I felt a bit of an unresolved debt to Foltest. I mean, I had ONE job...
 
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KingHochmeister

Forum veteran
#4
Jul 4, 2014
Bearkeley said:
Given the Emperor's track record of using Witchers as political hitmen, you can't exactly take his promises at face value. Foltest did that too, but at least he promised to leave you alone after that.

Personally, I felt a bit of an unresolved debt to Foltest. I mean, I had ONE job...
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Geralt is a witcher, he would never give a crap about kings or nobles and their damn word, he only cares about his loved ones and friends and he would spare Letho just because he ... (WITCHER 2 SPOILERS)
took care of Yennefer after Geralt gave himself to the Wild Hunt, that changes everything about his view on Letho, and makes Letho a bro to Geralt.

The beauty of the Witcher world, all shades of grey.
 
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KingHochmeister

Forum veteran
#5
Jul 4, 2014
Bearkeley said:
Given the Emperor's track record of using Witchers as political hitmen, you can't exactly take his promises at face value. Foltest did that too, but at least he promised to leave you alone after that.

Personally, I felt a bit of an unresolved debt to Foltest. I mean, I had ONE job...
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GODDAMN DOUBLE POST!

Geralt is a witcher, he would never give a crap about kings or nobles and their damn word, he only cares about his loved ones and friends and he would spare Letho just because he ... (WITCHER 2 SPOILERS)
took care of Yennefer after Geralt gave himself to the Wild Hunt, that changes everything about his view on Letho, and makes Letho a bro to Geralt.

The beauty of the Witcher world, all shades of grey, no true good or evil.
 
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Bearkeley

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#6
Jul 4, 2014
Well as one 'author' would be quick to point out, there's more than one shade of grey. We are, after all, playing divergent-storyline game Geralt, not book Geralt.

Actually when Kimbolt says pretty much the same thing you just said, one of the options to reply to him is "I decide what I'm interested in". From the horse's mouth, friend.
 
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HarelMor

Senior user
#7
Jul 13, 2014
Killing Letho was the hardest decision i ever made in this game, i took me a long while to decide what to do. if i will role play as geralt i think that i will let him go, Roche used geralt for his goals,when anais was found he said lats forget the past and look at the future. killing letho will not accomplish anything. letho put triss in harms way but he also freed her at the end of the summit, he took care of yennefer even when she behaved like a spoiled duchess.
On the other hand letho is a manipulative man can be seen as a monster in some cases, he killed the monk who treated him, betrayed iorveth and the lodge of sorceresses. one that can do the same again. This make him a valuable ally or someone deserve to die.

I love all those shades of gray.
 
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SerieLis

Rookie
#8
Aug 1, 2014
Well according to the E3 trailer of the wild hunt i guess Letho should be alive (on default or uploaded save that you let him live)

At 0:30, i think that's him...maybe not, but it's your choice to make.
 
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Thothistox

Senior user
#9
Aug 7, 2014
TheWhiteBleidd said:
Well according to the E3 trailer of the wild hunt i guess Letho should be alive (on default or uploaded save that you let him live)

At 0:30, i think that's him...maybe not, but it's your choice to make.
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To me it just looks like the back of Letho or anyone equally muscular. I hope they make the decision count in TW3.
 
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SylvanWolf

Rookie
#10
Aug 7, 2014
Because of him, Gerald got into that mess. So killing him isn't as half bad as it may seem, in my opinion. If not him, he'd have left with Triss from that castle and live a life he's like with someone he loved. So, killing him for what he did is enough. Gerald had killed for lot less. Or try both way, see how you'd like the game to end more. It's your free will.
 
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vivaxardas2015

Rookie
#11
Aug 10, 2014
Geralt got into this mess because of Geralt - witchers do not play at royal bodyguards, and for god reason. Nobody could have predicted Geralt's decision on this account. Letho has good reasons to agree on Emhyr's proposal - witchers do not care abut politics, Letho does not owe loyalty to any Northern king, and he will be able to re-build his school and make a new home for his people, who are now pretty much homeless outcasts. Also he took care of Yen (that alone was practically a legendary deed given Yen's sparkling personality), and thus Geralt owes him for saving her life just by staying with her and cleaning up her messes.

It sure sucks that Foltest is dead, but killing a friend to avenge him won't bring him back. If Roche wants Letho dead, let him personally take a crack at it, and we'll see what happens.:)
 
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SilverFox07

Senior user
#12
Aug 10, 2014
I let him live. Yes, he's not the nicest of people. He used and manipulated everyone to get what he wanted. But like he said many, many time, he's not Geralt's enemy, he didn't set out to get him or incriminate him. It just happened that way. You get to have a pretty in-depth, long conversation with him at the end, and he gives you a lot of information.
And the way i understood things, he wasn't really responsible for everything himself. He learned that others were also wanting to influence politics, and it just happened that what those people wanted to do, would work out for him, so he helped things along, so to speak.
 
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Eddard20

Rookie
#13
Aug 10, 2014
I fought him in the end, the first time I played the game, I thought after what he did it was the best to do.. but after playing again, I changed my opinion about him.
 
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TheDespondentMind2

Rookie
#14
Aug 12, 2014
StaGiors said:
The only real reason for me, to kill Letho, can be found in that playthrough, following Roche's path. And it is simply Geralt not breaking his promise to Roche. But in my honest opinion, Geralt wouldn't kill Letho anyway. Emhyr has always been a man of his word, so as you said, he would help rebuild the Witcher school of the Viper. I'm sure he could use those witchers, in other plans of his though. But that shouldn't really affect your decision.
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This.

Also Letho took care of Yennefer and optionally saved Triss, for Geralt that's more then enough to not fight him.

Then Letho himself is likeable and interesting, I really couldn't give a fuck about Foltest and Roche. It's not that I don't like them, but what's is done, killing Letho won't bring back Foltest to life and Geralt just met Roche, as long as Roche's life is not in question Geralt really has no responsibilities to him.

For fuck's sake my "default" save is Geralt saving Triss in Roche part, just because I don't wanna get Dethmold killed, I just have a weakness for awesome characters :p .
 
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Unkindled

Rookie
#15
Sep 3, 2014
I killed him, and probably always will kill him simply because he stole my girl. Really, that's all the reason I needed to hate him. Don't much care why he did it. I do like hm though now after watching the other endings. But I had a score to settle.
 
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NCofRivia

Senior user
#16
Sep 16, 2014
I killed him the first few times through, mostly just because I really liked Foltest. But I'm considering not doing it this time through.
 
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johnnybgood8

Rookie
#17
Dec 30, 2014
When I start to play Witcher 2 I will probably kill him. Cause hes fat, and fat assasin is like Yao Ming assasin. So yeah he is going down.
 
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sfinx

Rookie
#18
Dec 30, 2014
My decision making was also quite difficult.

I am not really sure which save I should bring to my W3 plot. Even if there wouldn't be some great impact on next story, I would like to continue with my decisions.. Unfortunately choices are limited :(


Reasons (for me) to kill him:
  • He is nilfgaardian flunky - I know it wasn't his choice, but he could behave differently. He didn't tell me he had to do that because Yen would be in danger if he would act differently. And his life wasn't in imminent danger - I know about nilf.secret service and their possible revenge, but secret services of nothern kingdoms are not any worse, so he did not help much to himself
  • His acts harmed sorceresses - no discussions, no excuses, he is regular murderer and above all he want to blame sorceresses for Emhyr's orders
  • His acts put my friends in danger. Yes, I know about mitigating circumstances, but if Triss wouldn't be my friend, he wouldn't probably care at all about some woman in danger, why should I care about his life..?
  • He denigrate himself from witcher to murderer and his job from protecting people to bringing chaos and death

Resons to spare him:
  • He was my friend once, we have common history, I helped him, he helped me.
  • He took care about Yennefer - that is the most important positive thing for me.
  • His death probably won't help me, his service for Nilfgaard is probably over.
  • It wasn't his idea to do that (just small excuse) and he was in troubles in Nilfgaard because of Yennefer (slightly better excuse)

Please, correct me if I am wrong at some point (for example about his motive to save Triss..).
I will maybe add some points..
 
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