Looking at the Endings... Spoilers

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I'm not so sure that V has to find a cure really, depending on which ending you go with. If Alt separates V and Johnny and downloads V's engram to the chip (replacing Johnny's), wouldn't that cause the nanites to effectively repair most of the damage they've caused? They are after all using the engram on the chip as the 'blueprint' for the 'remodeling' they're doing. That's been my head canon atleast, that's made it possible for me to not find the ending to be the kind of downer that makes me not want to ever play the game again.
in life, everyone will still have a lot of sadness, so there should be a positive ending (but the hardest to get it)
 
It is very hard to tell what the over all endings are, (or even will be) my op was pretty much the best guess using as much of the story, real logic, literary symbolism, and facts as I can. If I thought all 3 possible endings were all depressing I would not of posted it at all, but some of the community are still a bit bummed out about the endings, and thought to offer a ray of light to those concern. I get the feeling Misty's reading in the end credits are pretty much key to V's life afterwards: V is screwed (corpo ending), internationally famous (Afterlife ending) and a good life (Nomad ending)
Now rumor has it, at least one of the endings will be changing due to the new content in the expansion, hard to say.
 
It is very hard to tell what the over all endings are, (or even will be) my op was pretty much the best guess using as much of the story, real logic, literary symbolism, and facts as I can. If I thought all 3 possible endings were all depressing I would not of posted it at all, but some of the community are still a bit bummed out about the endings, and thought to offer a ray of light to those concern. I get the feeling Misty's reading in the end credits are pretty much key to V's life afterwards: V is screwed (corpo ending), internationally famous (Afterlife ending) and a good life (Nomad ending)
Now rumor has it, at least one of the endings will be changing due to the new content in the expansion, hard to say.
I heard one of the endings gets changed, but would love if the other two endings in question(Sun/Star) were expanded upon in some way. I don't want my V to be able to just get a cure/treatment all easy-peasy. I'm willing to put him through Hell for a bit, have a moment of pure hopelessness, and THEN get what is owed to him by Mr. Blue Eyes...or whoever he's working for.
 
I heard one of the endings gets changed, but would love if the other two endings in question(Sun/Star) were expanded upon in some way. I don't want my V to be able to just get a cure/treatment all easy-peasy. I'm willing to put him through Hell for a bit, have a moment of pure hopelessness, and THEN get what is owed to him by Mr. Blue Eyes...or whoever he's working for.
The Nomad ending where V seems to survive, no indications it was easy...... simply, we do not know it is current way outside the story arc. Considering Nomad life, I would make a guess it is not easy, but successful. In the Afterlife ending, I get the feeling V gives up on extending her life and just goes out with a bang. Like all Afterlife legends do "where can you find them?... in the graveyard". Misty's readings at each in the end credits, are different.
I will say, if they do extend the story, (not likely but hey let's speculate) the Afterlife ending would be the one. It is nicely set up for a story, NC is there, and easy to modify for a new story arc, and they can have the player make choices, so V can save her life, or go out with a bang.....
 

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In the Afterlife ending, I get the feeling V gives up on extending her life and just goes out with a bang. Like all Afterlife legends do "where can you find them?... in the graveyard".

and they can have the player make choices, so V can save her life, or go out with a bang.....
That player choice is exactly what I'm hoping for. On my first playthrough, I had no idea what to expect from the endings, but the reason why I picked to go along with Johnny's plan was because at that point in the story, I considered Johnny to be V's friend and Rogue not only had experience but resources too. I didn't pick it because I wanted my V to be a legend. I chose to trust a friend but the Sun ending stinks to high heavens of the whole "blaze of glory" thing which I didn't want, and the fact I wasn't really given the choice in what my V wants, and that it's tied to the endings instead, is what bothers me to this day.
 
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I know a lot of people have issues with the endings, me being one of them. I think they are too similar in that V gets the short end of the stick. The only ending that makes sense to me is the Panam ending. If you factor in what happens in CyberPunk Red: Black Dog story then that ending would be the cannon ending. [...]
 
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The only ending that makes sense to me is the Panam ending. If you factor in what happens in CyberPunk Red: Black Dog story then that ending would be the cannon ending.
And forgetting all of those who decided to choose another ending for various reasons and there are many.
And maybe more important, those who decided to not help Panam with the Basilisk (by revealling Panam's plan to Saul), for them, the Star ending is definitely locked. I even can't imagine those players restarting a new playthrough from scratch, to "unlock" the Star ending and so, the expansion simply to be able to play it...
So no, whatever the ending, chosing one as a canon seem to be a "very bad" idea to me :)
 
I know a lot of people have issues with the endings, me being one of them. I think they are too similar in that V gets the short end of the stick. The only ending that makes sense to me is the Panam ending. If you factor in what happens in CyberPunk Red: Black Dog story then that ending would be the cannon ending. [...]
The Sun ending makes sense as well. V doing one more gig for a guy who appears to have the resources needed to help them get a cure/treatment.
 
And forgetting all of those who decided to choose another ending for various reasons and there are many.
And maybe more important, those who decided to not help Panam with the Basilisk (by revealling Panam's plan to Saul), for them, the Star ending is definitely locked. I even can't imagine those players restarting a new playthrough from scratch, to "unlock" the Star ending and so, the expansion simply to be able to play it...
So no, whatever the ending, chosing one as a canon seem to be a "very bad" idea to me :)
Choosing a canon ending can be tricky. This is something that is currently going on with Mass Effect. In Mass Effect 3, you have three endings, Control, Synthesis and Destroy. Based on the fact that Commander Shepard might come back for the next Mass Effect, Destory ending makes. Since that's the only ending where you get to see his body in the ruble.

As for Cyberpunk, we know that the Panam's ending is considered the "Good" ending since you leave with her to Arizona to find a cure. Based on the story from Black Dog, we find out that Johnny Silverhand's body is in New Mexico. Therefore, that would make more sense. V could end up finding a specialist who could possibly put the relic back into Johnny's body. While also finding a way to save V.

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As for Cyberpunk, we know that the Panam's ending is considered the "Good" ending since you leave with her to Arizona to find a cure. Based on the story from Black Dog, we find out that Johnny Silverhand's body is in New Mexico. Therefore, that would make more sense. V could end up finding a specialist who could possibly put the relic back into Johnny's body. While also finding a way to save V.
As far as we know, only two biochips with overwriting capabilities exist. One that's in V's head and the other one is in Hanako's possession but with her dead in all but the Devil and suicide endings, it's unclear what happened to it. Removing the one from V's head is out of the question because they'd die.

Also, I'm not sure why you think only Panam's ending could be canon. Unless someone destroyed all modes of transportation in Night City and everyone has to get around using their wheelies cyberware, V from other endings could just... travel there.

Most of the endings, "kill off" Johnny, I'm not sure why would CDPR put so much focus on getting him back again.
 
As far as we know, only two biochips with overwriting capabilities exist. One that's in V's head and the other one is in Hanako's possession but with her dead in all but the Devil and suicide endings, it's unclear what happened to it. Removing the one from V's head is out of the question because they'd die.

Also, I'm not sure why you think only Panam's ending could be canon. Unless someone destroyed all modes of transportation in Night City and everyone has to get around using their wheelies cyberware, V from other endings could just... travel there.

Most of the endings, "kill off" Johnny, I'm not sure why would CDPR put so much focus on getting him back again.
I don't think Johnny was "killed off" since he sorta becomes like Alt when you choose to leave him. Fyi, I have two of my posts edited by the site so I'm getting the sense that I am touching into some major spoiler territory even though this is a spoiler forum. So, hopefully people can find out that information out for themselves.
 
Most of the endings, "kill off" Johnny, I'm not sure why would CDPR put so much focus on getting him back again.
This.
In most endings, Johnny (or its engram at least), simply vanish behind the blackwall with Alt. No one will become like Alt, it's a godlike AI... Engrams (Johnny and V included) just "participate" to create something greater, whatever it could mean.... End of the story.
And his body, well, after been soukilled, it's just an empty shell... So even by keeping it, his body is as much "useful" as a piece of meat :)

If there is an "obvious" canon ending for you (or "good"), it's only obvious or good for you. Some players even found the "suicide ending" as the one which have the more sense for their V ;)
 
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This.
In most endings, Johnny (or its engram at least), simply vanish behind the blackwall with Alt. No one will become like Alt, it's a godlike AI... Engrams (Johnny and V included) just "participate" to create something greater, whatever it could mean.... End of the story.
And his body, well, after been soukilled, it's just an empty shell... So even by keeping it, his body is as much "useful" as a piece of meat :)
AI's don't cease to exist if they go to the Blackwall which was created mostly for rogue AI's. It's more like a containment chamber to keep them from wrecking havoc. Who's to say you can't retrieve those AI's from the Blackwall. NetWatch is supposed to be the best of the best when it comes to Cyberspace. We don't know if one of them also created a way to retrieve an AI from the Blackwall. Anything is possible.
 
AI's don't cease to exist if they go to the Blackwall which was created mostly for rogue AI's. It's more like a containment chamber to keep them from wrecking havoc. Who's to say you can't retrieve those AI's from the Blackwall. NetWatch is supposed to be the best of the best when it comes to Cyberspace. We don't know if one of them also created a way to retrieve an AI from the Blackwall. Anything is possible.
Have you listen what Alt (or Johnny) say during the endings ?
In short, Alt will use all the Mikoshi engrams and Johnny's one indeed, to make something greater... We don't know what it is, but it's probably something that we can't understand as "human" anyway...

Edit : Netwatch... Well, in a bunch of players playthrough, all agents in NUSA "eaten the light" and were fried to a crisp by the VDBs... So, useless to count on them :)
 
Have you listen what Alt (or Johnny) say during the endings ?
In short, Alt will use all the Mikoshi engrams and Johnny's one indeed, to make something greater... We don't know what it is, but it's probably something that we can't understand as "human" anyway...

Edit : Netwatch... Well, in a bunch of players playthrough, all agents in NUSA "eaten the light" and were fried to a crisp by the VDBs... So, useless to count on them :)
True she does say that. There is also another tricky situation. V's body has already been reworked to belong to Johnny. In all the endings, V is still dying. My question then is, is the true ending the one when where Johnny takes over and V goes with Alt? If CDPR is to continue V's story in more content, how do we live if our chip is broken beyond repair?
 
True she does say that. There is also another tricky situation. V's body has already been reworked to belong to Johnny. In all the endings, V is still dying. My question then is, is the true ending the one when where Johnny takes over and V goes with Alt? If CDPR is to continue V's story in more content, how do we live if our chip is broken beyond repair?
Simple, they can't with the current endings. V's story is ended :)
Either it's not a "post-ending" expansion, which is my guess.
Either provide a brand new ending, which is unlikely (for me at least).
Choosing one ending as canon will piss off those who chose the other ones... So in short, whatever the chosen ending as canon, the majority of players.
 
Simple, they can't with the current endings. V's story is ended :)
Either it's not a "post-ending" expansion, which is my guess.
Either provide a brand new ending, which is unlikely (for me at least).
Choosing one ending as canon will piss off those who chose the other ones... So in short, whatever the chosen ending as canon, the majority of players.
If V story has ended then it would make sense for Johnny to take over since Mike Pondsmith said in an interview that he is continuing the story beyond Cyberpunk 2077. Johnny has been an important and playable character in the entire Cyberpunk universe. Plus, I find it interesting that Mike Pondsmith said Cyberpunk 2077 is like Star War: Return of the Jedi.
 
Entertaining banter. Here's my take on the endings:
  1. The stupid Relic killing V in two week story doesn't exist. I just ignore it.
  2. Therefore, the endings are all irrelevant to me. They're all just brainstorm ideas that some writer came up with late at night, after too many shots of whisky.
  3. Therefore, the game for me is about interacting with Night City, and the only ending is the one where I get tired of doing that, and decide to start over with a new character.
 
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