Yeah, forgot that.
Ok, so that’s one.
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What changes do you expect personally?
Ok, so that’s one.
If most of the artwork, animations, and basic game mechanics are done a year is plenty of time to finalize things and polish the final product.
I’m quite certain it’s Q1 2020 at earliest, and very likely later than that.
In my thoughts release date is depends on release of new consoles. If we take into account the fact that CDPR were going to release the game on current generation of consoles, it would be more profitable to release the game a year before the release of a new generation. And with the release of new consoles to release an improved version, thereby selling the game twice.
And all those leaks/rumors about release in 2019, most likely fake but...
And i personally would prefer 2019 release, my hype is too big
And all those leaks/rumors about release in 2019, most likely fake but...
And i personally would prefer 2019 release, my hype is too big
Yeah, I agree with this. Mass Effect's dialogue was much like TW3, in the sense that it was all very static. Nothing really happened during it. And I would remember, because you got me to play all three games not too long ago.
Dialogues in Mass Effect and TW3 was fine, also dialogues in both game was mostly exact and not so rephrased, what you pick in dialogue wheel you hear that from your character mouth, for rpg worst they can do is rephrased dialogues you pick one line and your character say totally different thing, Fallout 4 i think is best example how that system is fuck up.
Yeah dialogues was little static, but not so much in both games all the dialogues and scenes look so much alive and so interesting, for me and i say for me CP77 demo look boring and not interesting during dialogues.
I really really hope they don't put Rephrased dialogue system.
Yeah dialogues was little static, but not so much in both games all the dialogues and scenes look so much alive and so interesting, for me and i say for me CP77 demo look boring and not interesting during dialogues.
I really really hope they don't put Rephrased dialogue system.
Eh? Did we see the same gameplay demo?
I'm not saying you have to like the way CDPR is handling dialogue, but "boring and not interesting" is the exact opposite of what I would expect to hear as far as criticism goes.
Every Mass Effect game had you sitting there and talking to one or multiple people. Yes, stuff could happen in dialogue, but it was all very isolated from what was happening around you, and it all felt quite stiff as a result.
In 2077, dialogue is woven into the action. You're getting punched, held against a car while you're lie-detected, you're walking around and talking, you're driving and talking, all of that is probably as far from boring as it can get.
Just my 2 cents, of course.
Sure. But their argument was specifically that Mass Effect felt "alive and more interesting."
Seems pretty clear that 2077 isn't static - not even sure that's debatable (whether it's your cup of tea or not is your business). So, again, just an odd argument to make IMO.
You don't have to like the dialogue. But I'd be curious to hear some more logical reasons as to why. Or maybe it's just a feeling and preference, and not related to logic. I dunno, but I want to find out.
Personally it's mostly about real time dialogue, I've already wrote this in the related topic:
"The problem with real time dialogue is actually the same one as FPP: what works IRL doesn't work in a game because is it never even close to how things works IRL.
IRL you don't have to acknowlegde, then choose, from a limited number of possibilities, nor do you have to think which possibility would better fit the roleplay of your character. "
Also big thing for me and why all was boring and not interesting is FPP, i like to see my character in 3rd person to see their face expression, body language and how they react on stuff around them, example when you was buying that spider bot and Jackie didn'r want to sit down, V get to him put her hand on his shoulder and calm him down, for me that was so empty and totaly not interesting if it was in 3rd person it probably would be 100% better.
I didn't start to play games yesterday i play game for past 25 years, i see most FPP games and 3rd person games and RTS and so on, i play many FPP game but always love more 3rd person games if i can pick will i play game in FPP or 3rd person i will always pick 3rd person it is far better option.
I didn't start to play games yesterday i play game for past 25 years, i see most FPP games and 3rd person games and RTS and so on, i play many FPP game but always love more 3rd person games if i can pick will i play game in FPP or 3rd person i will always pick 3rd person it is far better option.
Just a friendly reminder before we go too far down the road: https://forums.cdprojektred.com/index.php?threads/fpp-tpp-discussion-currently-on-a-break.10981625/
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Problem is that level of detail in character, and particularly facial, animations in pretty recent and VERY dependent on the time, budget, and skills of the dev team. Look at "Andromeda" as an example of a game where you'd be far better off not being able to see the animations.
Yeah Andromeda was little weird, still if game is fun i am happy, i don't look for ultra high realistic graphic, and again for me 3rd person is much better option i just say that is my opinion , like i love that stats have impact on my character and to have skill check in talk or skill check for some task like disarming traps or lockpicking.
Well quite frankly cd projekt red had a very effective fundation for animating characters during dialogues bring Andromeda as an example is something a bit unfair andromeda failure was about a incompetent team directed by an incompetent lead director so the example does not apply.
Aside the visual debate that now is closed we basically being told "Deal with it" what concerned much at the time was what this change would mean for the gameplay.. And judging by the demo the gameplay was meant to be a collab of different FPS features and nothing more..
Outside of the gameplay the dialogue system seemed interesting but aside that and the great visuals i can't recognize even by far Cyberpunk in the gameplay.
Is one of those cases the gameplay create a total disconnection with the setting the game takes place..
I grown up with "Cyberpunk is grounded in reality" and with "In the cyberpunk world shit happens and is better if you are ready to deal with it and outsmart your way out of a bad situation"
In the demo gameplay i saw:
V dodging bullets sliding chopping off limbs with a shotgun, double jumping and shooting heat seeker bullets.
And that is not Cyberpunk is not even close by far.
Being an Armed Mercenary a SOLO doesn't mean being RAMBO!
It was so dull they added a skip mechanic with which you could throw people out windows, ending the dialogue completely just because the player got bored. I think a dev actually said about the feature, "enough, goodbye". Clearly, BW is not the same one that made the good early titles.
I do agree that the dialogue in the CP2077 demo seemed very thuggish, but I think that's because of the position in the story, the fact it was quite early on and V was no pro, at least not yet, and was dealing with a lot of low-level shady people.
I hope it gets better later on, but overall it's as expected from this type of universe. All things considered, the dialogue system and the dialogue itself seem fine. This and 2020 are not scholarly experiences.
Right, you make a good point, but do bear in mind that it's not the thuggish dialogue I take issue with - it's the way V is forced to be played.
Street thug or not, Jackie is her friend, and as her friend, I wouldn't be ordering him around like he's my slave. At least, that's not how I'd roleplay V. At first I thought maybe it was a joke, but she was deadly serious.
Anyway, it's not a hill I'm going to die on. I don't like it, but it's far from a dealbreaker. All in all, I would just ask that we get more variety in our choices. Not necessarily more or vastly different. Small tweaks!
It did seem a little jarring, but maybe by that point in the game they will have established that sometimes Jackie needs a strong/curt response to get through to him, which I can see with what little we have already seen, but is of course just speculation.
I'm giving it the benefit of the doubt, but I am a bit of an optimist, so I'm not going to expect everyone else to do the same.