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[Mega SPOILERS] Immersion Destroyer.

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latios507

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#861
Jun 22, 2015
Enfrize said:
You're just roaming around the place or what? I stop playing when i find out that there is no one in the castle LMAO.
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I tried, Kinda regretted it. So much hurtz to teh feeling

Closed my PS4 just a few mins afterwards lol
 
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Enfrize

Rookie
#862
Jun 22, 2015
latios507 said:
I tried, Kinda regretted it. So much hurtz to teh feeling

Closed my PS4 just a few mins afterwards lol
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Same here but i don't even try to load game after this.

Wonder how they was able to create such an awesome game in general but that fails so much in details at the same time.
 
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mrigm

Rookie
#863
Jun 22, 2015
latios507 said:
I tried, Kinda regretted it. So much hurtz to teh feeling

Closed my PS4 just a few mins afterwards lol
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Enfrize said:
Same here but i don't even try to load game after this.

Wonder how they was able to create such an awesome game in general but that fails so much in details at the same time.
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me too :(
the feels! i feel now all alone in this big world... i even tried to go to Nilfgaardian camp and hoped to see CIRI there :******(
 
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radarsweb

Rookie
#864
Jun 23, 2015
gogusar said:
Well, it's rather sounds like "We have no idea what you talking bout, but if you want more - wait for the dlcs. But thanks for asking!"
Not really reassuring, if you asked me...
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Well i will say that the person who replied to me probably themself dont know what exactly is going on here. it is a tech support person after all and i have been in contact with multiple different people for multiple reasons not just this one.

The reason it reassures me (at least a little) is that they are communicating and asking me for more info after i contacted them, most other game companies i have tried in the past to contact usually just send a generic auto reply.

That being said the other person im in contact with is asking me to send them my gamesave and even replied multiple times to help me understand exactly how to do that from a ps4.

i would also like to take this time to ask people from this thread that have beat the game and are in the post world if there are any bugs they have found that are immersion breakers that you would like me to include in my email to CDPR.

The ones i have discovered so far are

Kiera Metz being outside kaer morhen and the door being locked so you cant get out of the area without carefully finding a way off the cliff , dying or reloading old save.

The house in white orchard directly behind the notice board, the walls of this house are completely see through for me at least in the post credits world

dijkstra's bath house is completely empty of NPC's but you can still hear all there voice's

Returning to the tower where ciri uses the portal to goto the white frost. I found that the graphics change rapidly (snow / bushes appear and disappear )
also same location, The fast travel post says, you cannot do that now when trying to use it. you can fast travel to it but cant use it to fast travel away.
fast travel point is called Tor Gvalch'ca in the Skellige isles


If anyone has any others you would like me to send please PM as many details as possible and if i can verify that they are in my save i will include them in the email.
i say PM because i dont want this thread to get off topic and im new here so i dont know what all the rules are yet.

Also if anyone can confirm they to have the bugs i mentioned would be a help as well as it will help prove that its a global issue and not just something on my save.

Thank you to all the posters (New and old ) who are voicing their opinion and helping to show them that this is a BIG issue for most people.
 
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boszkovicz

Rookie
#865
Jun 23, 2015
The one you mentioned about Keira Metz is indeed annoying.

I'm not sure if this has been mentioned before but I consider not having a storage chest a big immersion breaker. throughout the game I find so many gear and crafting schemes that I would like to craft and try out, only there's no way way I can keep all this stuff since there's no way to store it. I end up using Cat School Gear and sell all I find, never crafting anything except witcher gear. Typically this would be a thing to do post-game for me and a storage chest would surely fullfill a need in my opinion.

I see it as a waste that developers spend so much time developing all this interesting gear that no one ever uses and just ends up selling due to limited storage capacity. At least post-game there would be time to try some of the crafting plans and throughout the game I'd like to have the opportunity to switch and try swords too.

Sorry if this has been mentioned before but I had to get this off my chest.
 
Krull32

Krull32

Rookie
#866
Jun 23, 2015
Enfrize said:
Same here but i don't even try to load game after this.
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Same.
After the "Ending" "hust" i closed the game and never touched it again.....no way in this state....
First time a Game makes me so angry and dissapointed at the same time.
They can release again 16 free dlcs with armors and mini quests or whatever...
As long they don't do anything about the ending it won't change a thing.

Enfrize said:
Wonder how they was able to create such an awesome game in general but that fails so much in details at the same time.
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Believe me, so many players asking the same thing....over and over ....and over again....
 
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Enfrize

Rookie
#867
Jun 23, 2015
Krull32 said:
Believe me, so many players asking the same thing....over and over ....and over again....
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And what's an answer?
 
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randyrhoads

Rookie
#868
Jun 23, 2015
IF they're going to address this the way we want it's going to take time. There's a lot of dev work as well as getting the voice actors back. The new content gotta be thought out, made, play tested, undergo QA... etc
 
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radarsweb

Rookie
#869
Jun 23, 2015
Enfrize said:
And what's an answer?
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Even Triss wants the answer "Well?" lol sorry couldn't resist

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randyrhoads said:
IF they're going to address this the way we want it's going to take time. There's a lot of dev work as well as getting the voice actors back. The new content gotta be thought out, made, play tested, undergo QA... etc
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True i agree, but a temporary hot fix of adding them back into the world would be easy and fill the void a little till they come up with something, or word from them they are working on it would be appreciated greatly by many.
 
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randyrhoads

Rookie
#870
Jun 23, 2015
radarsweb said:
or word from them they are working on it would be appreciated greatly by many.
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Look what happened with 1.04 patch when they announced it too early, people went almost ape shit from the delay. Keeping tight lipped could be a blessing in disguise as it should keep people calm.
 
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Grapejamz

Rookie
#871
Jun 23, 2015
I can't believe I finally found this thread! I completely agree with everyone saying that the expansion packs should be prioritized focusing in post-ending content. The game was an amazing journey, and right after the ending (I got Ciri as Witcher and retired with Yen) I was still recovering from how epic the final missions were. THEN I LANDED ON KAER MORHEN after the credits. It was empty and in ruins. I decided maybe I'll check out if Dandelion and friends are around and trigger some dialogue about the ending....but there was nothing....The post-ending world is pointless if I have to put it bluntly. I know it probably would be impossible to make any substantial changes so I really hope that CDproject Red reads this thread and implement these into future expansions!!
 
Krull32

Krull32

Rookie
#872
Jun 23, 2015
randyrhoads said:
IF they're going to address this the way we want it's going to take time. There's a lot of dev work as well as getting the voice actors back. The new content gotta be thought out, made, play tested, undergo QA... etc
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It would be a shame IF they would do nothing....
We know it take time, we now its work to do. Thats not the problem..And many would gladly pay for it too.

The problem is, still no response from the devs...
"Hey guys...We're not happy either, we heard you and we are working on it..stay tuned....No more infos to share atm "
and done....

@Enfrize
That's the answer..no comment~~~
 
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Smurfin

Senior user
#873
Jun 23, 2015
Why worries about what developers can or can't do, it's not like we're asking them to build Eiffel tower, they are game developers, they develop games, what we think is hard to do might be a cakewalk for them. A lawyer thinks boxing is hard, a boxer thinks math is hard, a mathematician thinks hunting a deer is hard, a hunter thinks witchery is hard, a witcher thinks sorcery is hard, a sorcerer thinks melee combat is hard....and so on. We know stuffs but we don't have the knowledge and capacity to assess what they're capable of, how we think they do stuffs might not even come close to how they actually manage to do and achieve it.
 
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Enfrize

Rookie
#874
Jun 23, 2015
Smurfin said:
Why worries about what developers can or can't do, it's not like we're asking them to build Eiffel tower, they are game developers, they develop games, what we think is hard to do might be a cakewalk for them. A lawyer thinks boxing is hard, a boxer thinks math is hard, a mathematician thinks hunting a deer is hard, a hunter thinks witchery is hard, a witcher thinks sorcery is hard, a sorcerer thinks melee combat is hard....and so on. We know stuffs but we don't have the knowledge and capacity to assess what they're capable of, how we think they do stuffs might not even come close to how they actually manage to do and achieve it.
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It's not about what they CAN do, it's about if they WANT to do. Of course they can do it, it's a large company with big amount of professionals working in it, they have money, they have our ideas. But for what reason they NEED to do it? Because some ppl yelling on forums that we don't like post-game experience? Pfff, they already get millions of copies sold and everyday making more so why they need to fix something for us?
 
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bezlitosny97

Rookie
#875
Jun 23, 2015
DAY 31, still no concrete answer from CDPR. :/
 
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Tzatrix

Rookie
#876
Jun 23, 2015
Enfrize said:
It's not about what they CAN do, it's about if they WANT to do. Of course they can do it, it's a large company with big amount of professionals working in it, they have money, they have our ideas. But for what reason they NEED to do it? Because some ppl yelling on forums that we don't like post-game experience? Pfff, they already get millions of copies sold and everyday making more so why they need to fix something for us?
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Erm, because they risk ppl losing any interest by the time they release expansions, for example.

I love the game so much I think I'm already became what ppl call "a fanboy". I like the story and the gameplay. But the moment I found myself at Kaer Morhen with a "Welcome to the aftergame" board I couldn't make myself play anymore. No point. I'm stuck in time. I'm somwhere between the last "mission" and the beginning of the game. And no, I don't want the FFXII style endgame, where you are loaded to a save previous to the final battle. It sucks as well. I don't want to feel sad and lonely after the credits, I want to feel myself free like in Skyrim (Don't get me wrong I'm not comparing them).

And this thread shows that I'm not the only one who feels that way. Ppl want to play the game but the current "endgame" breaks the immersion. Totally.

Technically the hardest and money&time consuming things to do will be recording new dialogues. Everything else (like adding monsters that should appear after Ciri openning the Tower and changing redanians guards to nlfgaardian ones if Nilfgaard wins) is all not that hard to do. I bet it could be done with the RedKit.

So my point is: with all my respect and thanks to the Devs I think it's in CDPR's interest to make a aftergame worldstate(s) that will keep ppl playing TW3 at least until they release Expansions and RedKit.
 
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Enfrize

Rookie
#877
Jun 23, 2015
Tzatrix said:
Erm, because they risk ppl losing any interest by the time they release expansions, for example.
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Do you have at least few examples when Devs do something when community demands something? I don't. And you know why is this happening? Because by the time that player discover any issues he already BOUGHT the game. Fin. If profit is gained it means that game was good and there is nothing need fix. There can be one thing to change current situation - complete boycott of RED games. But it's impossible, how much people have this immersion problem? 5 thousands? 10 thousands? And how much of them already bought the game? Millions.
 
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mikicro111

Rookie
#878
Jun 23, 2015
bezlitosny97 said:
DAY 31, still no concrete answer from CDPR. :/
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They have responded that they are following the thread and are"looking into this"
 
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Tzatrix

Rookie
#879
Jun 23, 2015
Enfrize said:
Do you have at least few examples when Devs do something when community demands something? I don't. And you know why is this happening? Because by the time that player discover any issues he already BOUGHT the game. Fin. If profit is gained it means that game was good and there is nothing need fix. There can be one thing to change current situation - complete boycott of RED games. But it's impossible, how much people have this immersion problem? 5 thousands? 10 thousands? And how much of them already bought the game? Millions.
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So far CDPR games (TW1EE and TW2EE) didn't disappoint me. EA, Ubisoft, Bioware, Visceral - yes. I will stop believing in CDPR when they stop trying. So far they heard my requests - a HUD option to remove "Drowner", "Wolf", "Peasant" etc. above monsters and NPCs. A small thing but it was done. Let's see what happens next =)
 
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radarsweb

Rookie
#880
Jun 23, 2015
randyrhoads said:
Look what happened with 1.04 patch when they announced it too early, people went almost ape shit from the delay. Keeping tight lipped could be a blessing in disguise as it should keep people calm.
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Ok thanks for pointing that out to me i wasnt aware that had happened, (i wasn't a member here then)

i honestly didn't have a single problem with the game until after the credits rolled on my second play through. (i liked the game and story so much i started new game right away after the first one) thats when i realized how empty and hollow the world feels, and even if you get a good ending the game makes you feel like you got the sad lonely ending :(

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Enfrize said:
Do you have at least few examples when Devs do something when community demands something? I don't. And you know why is this happening? Because by the time that player discover any issues he already BOUGHT the game. Fin. If profit is gained it means that game was good and there is nothing need fix. There can be one thing to change current situation - complete boycott of RED games. But it's impossible, how much people have this immersion problem? 5 thousands? 10 thousands? And how much of them already bought the game? Millions.
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if you look at the update history on ps4 for this game, (patch 1.03 and 1.04) you can clearly tell the devs listen to the community.

if what you said was true we wouldn't have gotten those updates. and i think pc version is at 1.05 (not 100% sure) and i even read somewhere that big changes were going to be made in 1.07 (ill try and find link for you)

so sorry i disagree with you on this one, from my POV they do care what we think and will fix these issues, The biggest questions are WHEN? and HOW? not IF? they are gonna fix it.
 
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