[Mega SPOILERS] Immersion Destroyer.

[Krull32]

it was a while ago since i visited this thread...and still nothing....hmph....
Again, something needs to be done . Witcher 3 have one of the worst endings i've ever seen

Maybe some final dialogues after defeating the wild hunt, maybe a little victory party with the people, better explanations and a better ending in general...
The little slideshow is just a joke... and btw, ng+ changes nothing for me and is not interesting.

The ending ruins the complete game for me...Not satisfying after 160+ Hours....

 

[MrPanda92]

t was a while ago since i visited this thread...and still nothing....hmph....
Again, something needs to be done . Witcher 3 have one of the worst endings i've ever seen

Maybe some final dialogues after defeating the wild hunt, maybe a little victory party with the people, better explanations and a better ending in general...
The little slideshow is just a joke... and btw, ng+ changes nothing for me and is not interesting.

The ending ruins the complete game for me...Not satisfying after 160+ Hours....

Well you know i agree with you about the NG+, with NG+ or without if you want you can still restart all the story on the max difficulty, but like you said this dosen't change anything. After we complete the story in NG+ it is still an empty and sad world with the post main-story ending.

I like many others was super happy with my witcher ending, was ready to slay some monsters with her, go and meet Yenn (in my case) and the others. I feel like they Cut off on of the most beautiful parts of the game, a part where you are finaly able to spent time with Geralts beloved one, friends and see the consequences of what we have done.
When we expected that moment Puff a short slideshow followed by 2 hours trying to find them( in my case) and after my game experience was ruined.

I try to play TW3 4-5 times a week but nothing, i'm allways in an empty world with no one arround, and it just dosen't work for me.
I still hope we will get a positive responce from devs sooner or latter.

 

[Avin]

Paid dlcs to do contracts as Eskel and Lambert won't Hurt.

 

[Number1Witcher]

Paid dlcs to do contracts as Eskel and Lambert won't Hurt.

It'd be better to have paid DLCs with 2 big contracts you do with Eskel and the other one with Lambert.

 

[sv3672]

Plus i'm so sad i wont be able to play the october expansion and see the new dialogs, because every time i try to play TW3 i fell sand and empty ç_ç

Regarding the expansions, there is one potential advantage of the main characters not being present in the game after the ending: if an expansion was made that can only be played after the ending, it would be free to include anyone (with real quests) without conflicting with existing content in the main game. Not saying that this is what is going to happen, though.

 

[RiseOfRose1]

Regarding the expansions, there is one potential advantage of the main characters not being present in the game after the ending: if an expansion was made that can only be played after the ending, it would be free to include anyone (with real quests) without conflicting with existing content in the main game. Not saying that this is what is going to happen, though.

I think the Oxenfurt one will be added to the story but the Toussaint DLC might be standalone and hell if it has all the characters after the DLC and I can free roam the outskirts of Toussaint I'll rather do that then the postgame in story.

 

[RiseOfRose1]

Any updates? Hearts Of Stone got teased today?

 

[nlaivu]

Any good news for us ?

 

[RiseOfRose1]

Any good news for us ?

Nope but two devs are roaming the forums and @Marcin Momot brings the info so I hope they see this.

 

[nlaivu]

Nope but two devs are roaming the forums and @Marcin Momot brings the info so I hope they see this.

Well. But I think they will fix it in the last expansion pack. Look like they are very busy with new character in Heart of Stone now. Hopefully I was wrong. :book:

 

[danish_haikal]

I sign this too. I hope they do something to bring back all the characters back in the game. I want to see more interaction with Dandelions and his girlfriend after that vampire mission, Yen and Triss, Lambert and Eskel, Vernon and Vas, Ciri and characters from Skellige island. The ravage village by the giant is restored.

The only way I see it is they have to make a new paid DLC for this and more side quest/mission in future.

 

[valcugen]

The problem is,there should have been a place like those worlds from Avallach's quest where you should be able to go whenever you want and at least have sex with your chosen one!! That would have been super good ! Now its just a damn lonely castle with no one to find,and those that you CAN find like Rouche can't even talk with them at all....

 

[RiseOfRose1]

I ain't a mod but someone close this thread and import comments into this
http://forums.cdprojektred.com/threads/39674-Mega-SPOILERS-Immersion-Destroyer?p=1913076#post1913076

 

[VegitoReborn]

Can we have a new ending after the Epilogue (not refering to the story board ending)

Hello there, I was wondering if CDProjektRed was going to change after the credits and epilogue of the game to suit better what the game tells us after the epilogue is finished.

It says that the game has been reset in the world to just before the events of the last chapter. Well if this is true then all of Geralt's friends and lovers should be around still that Geralt did not let get killed or didn't kill himself. The only people (maximum) that are around still are Vernon Roche, Thaler, Dandelion and Zoltan Chivey.

Yennifer of Vengerburg, Triss Merigold, Kira Metz, Phillipa Eilhart, Dudu, Avallac'h, Croch's Son and Daughter, Dandelion's Girl Friend, Ciri, Ves, Lambert, Eskel...etc These people should be still able to be contacted after the epilogue. Yet they are all gone vanished from the game yet you guys left the other four in the game still.

Eskel and Lambert should be at Kaer Morhen. Besides that is where they said they were going and they were not killed in the last battle. Triss Merigold should be in Novigrad packing her things but still there getting read to go to Kovir (if you didn't send her off with the sorcerers and the like). Yennifer of Vengerburg should still be at Kaer Morhen as well getting ready to leave for where-ever. Ciri should be at either the bar in White Orchard still or at the castle in Vizima or dead. Dudu and Dandelion's Girl Friend should be at Dandelion's establishment. Avallac'h should be at Dandelion's establishment getting ready to go back to his world or at his secret lair on the island in Skellige. Croch's children should be in the mead hall of Kaer in Ard Skellige (unless you sided with the other guy and they all got killed). Kira Metz should be at Kaer Morhen and Phillipa Eilhart should be back at her laboratory in the woods.

Without these things we don't get to see how things played out with our friends. The final story board isn't enough to see the effects of choices in the world for Geralt's friends. There should be dialogue with these people as well just like with Dandelion and Zoltan Chivey. Even if it's repeat dialogue or new short lines. In addition people should be able to romance the one they chose still. Or neither (if they chose both or none).

 

[RiseOfRose1]

There is a thread for this

TW3 > Suggestions > Immersion Destroyer

Just go look there

 

[RiseOfRose1]

@theta77 Any news on this? Since the new dialogue from HoS won't be available if all the main characters are extinct?

 

[VegitoReborn]

SPOILERS! SPOILERS! SPOILERS!

This is about the immersion being destroyed at the end of the game.
Don't read if you have not completed or don't want to know the ending.

- Read -

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So finished the story, two of the three possible main ways and also gave victory to Redo and second time to Nilfgaard... I got the ending I really wanted Which was Geralt and Yen moving away and finding peace and love together. Nilfgaard winning the war, which stopped the genocide in the northern kingdoms and Ciri becoming Empress... I was basically really happy with this ending.

But then after I had my preferred ending I was dropped into a empty lonely castle and when I went out from a lonely cold castle... no longer inhabited by Witcher's I went into an empty world, no longer inhabited by friends and family... The entire world which I had made in the game, was basically gone. Completely ripped me out of the immersion, also really hurt the ending for me.

I couldn't See or talk to the people who I had had this massive journey with or talk to them and say "Hi, How are things?" When I was passing through... It was a small thing but it literally made me not want to play the game after the ending, since it felt like the whole game world had suddenly become hollow. Like with the possible ending of Geralt alone with no one... even though I had made an ending that was happy and bright for all the people involved it resulted in the same hollow world.

I don't know if its just me but I really feel that Red should have at least put the main characters in the game after the end... Ciri talking with the Emperor/Travelling passive from inn to inn and you can sometimes bump into her and say Hi, Yen/Triss and Geralt living together, but obviously Geralt being able to travel and take on Monster Contracts. Had Red done this I would have come outta the ending feeling that the game was complete and that I could go around doing Contracts and side quests well also feeling that the world was full of people I care about and had saved(or not).

It completely toke me outta the game... I dunno about you.

------------- Update: 18:29 31st May 2015 --------------

The following is the RED Post as well as my response to catch people up about basically the next 30+ pages of posts and information being discussed.

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Okay just going to comment on this post. Which just seems to have taken the first comment where someone has given a reason for them not doing anything and gone with it.


That scenario was not what the majority of people have been asking for with this entire post. Hate to ask this, but did you actually read the thread? I think not.


What people are asking for, and sure some people did say it would be cool to experience an after end game state, but not the majority. The majority of people want the characters back in the game and concurred that a post Epilogue state of the game which would literally have not required any change, except the characters implementation.


Okay, now to move onto the presentation of facts and what we as a player base were asking for compared to this:


1) Every NPC would have to react... No, Every character does not know what happened in Skellige after the Epilogue, and only Ciri, Geralt and Avallac'h knew as well as probably Yen/Triss...
2) They need different scenarios, only three, and that's in the case of the Epilogue, without the post Epilogue, literally no work.
3) Entire area's need to change dramatically. Nope, post the Epilogue, the zones are still in a war-time state, the war is not over yet. The war ends, which entails these massive changes post the Storyboard, after the Epilogue. If you didn't do the Epilogue, nothing has changed because the story hasn't ended at all.


Sure, there is never such a thing as "JUST" adding something, but there is a thing as improving something to make it more enjoyable, rewarding and making your fans happy, as well as satisfied with the end of the game. As well as being able to still feel immersed in the game world for DLC content, continuing their game.


I really hope that you make an effort to discuss this, and next time actually read the thread.


Because, for almost 250+ pages of this thread it has been discussed, the options you have and what would have been really, the best way to implement this change and it seems you have taken the one option no-one realistically expected and said, "Oh yes, we can't do this because... Or it would be extremely difficult to do this because..." when we already know these reasons and thus didn't make that a realistic option in the first place, more of a shiny dream enjoyed by some players...


The fact is that ending the game after the Epilogue was realistic and the best option to really conclude, Geralt's story. Your story board acts as a form of insurance for the player, to know that their character will enjoy said future, well also in the right time to have all the side quests still available, active and relevant, as well as all the characters deployed in the game world.




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I just wanted to add that I don't mean to be picky here or in any way aggressive, as I'm sure it reads, it's in my nature to pick apart arguments or words. But, I have literally been reading this thread since the first reply all the way through to now and have seen countless people come and give their opinion, opinions of feelings of the end of the game and then opinions and really interesting discussions about how CDPR could incorporate a solution realistically and achieve-ably. To have all that discussion take place and then to have a RED post literally addressing the only opinion we really didn't expect to happen, as being Extremely hard, and the way the post is made, as being not really an option in their eyes, is really disappointing nor does it feel like all the feedback has been thought about or taken in at all.

------------- Update: 17:07 01st June 2015 --------------

The following is the RED Post made, in response to the continued discussion being put forward in regards to the End-Game state.

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Hi,

I am sorry I am not a PR representative and don't only tell you things that are PR approved. I speak from my personal experience and outline reasons why we did what we did.

Please remember I could have just not said anything, but I saw that a lot of people are commenting on this...and a lot of people asking why we don't "just" add some more dialog lines to NPCs for after the game, so I explained why it is not as simple as it may seem.

It is always refreshing when a community engages in dialog about a solution to a problem. Often, we may find new ways to approach things, which is why I am here.

I will, in the meantime, pass the suggestion of using the last savegame before the final mission as a starting point for the "After Ending" game on. I think this is a good idea that we can look into for a patch.

As for Expansion content after the main game, I will also add that to the feedback. I outlined in my reply why this is a more expansive change/addition, but it doesn't hurt to ask.

In the meantime, thank you for keeping the discussion civil and for the suggestions and feedback!

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I will happily pass on the suggestion to the rest of the team.

Blows, incidentally, were not intended. I merely pointed out the difficulties of the things that have already been requested by people in this and other threads about this topic.

Apologies if this was taken as an insult or attack.

------------- Update: 03:13 22nd July 2015 --------------


Okay, HELLO Everyone, I do read all the comments and I keep up to date with the thread! Just not had my account logged in for a while... So a few weeks ago I received some new information from a secret informant, who told me to go check out the information provided in a thread, numerous RED posts giving information about the relationships in the game.

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I read through the thread, and I don't recommend it to anyone... it toke me 8 hours to get through it all.

But to get to the end of my point it was very informative... If you plan to go read it, I would say glance at the points being made and take note of the RED posts being made. I think they speak for themselves but I'll try to get through the main points below.

So they made statement talking about what the problems are with adding in dialog and such and adding in interactions.

They then went on to say it is basically very doable and that it is being discussed opening in the company.

A RED post then went on to say this "I wouldn't go as far as calling it new content. We will be implementing small additions and tweaks in character dialogues that should please many folks in this thread. "

and was followed by another post basically stating that it was going to be worked on and that basically other issues will also be treated the same way and worked on also...

Here is a link to the thread, please go read the RED posts especially and tell me what you think!

LINKYLINK!

An update to the post with a conclusive suggestion which is in my agreement what we are asking for...

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Originally Posted by Witcher_Erune Nilfgard:
Radovid lives: Change nothing!
Radovid dies: Remove pyres and witchhunters / add nilfgaardian soldiers
Dijkstra rules: Remove pyres and witchhunters

Geralt Romance:
Triss (Radovid lives): At Kaer Morhen preparing to move to Kovir
Triss (Radovid dies/Dijkstra rules): At her old shop (preparing to move to Kovir)
Yennefer: At Kaer Morhen doing magic stuff (playing around with megascope etc.) or in a small house outside of Novigrad/Kaer Morhen

(If not romanced they are at the same locations, just without the romance option and/or different dialogues.)

Ciri:
Ciri empress: In Vizima castle preparing to be crowned
Ciri witcher: Training at Kaer Morhen or playing Gwent in an inn (option to do contracts with her)
Ciri never returns: Change nothing!

Roche/Ves:
At their hideout preparing to leave it with different dialogues depending on the wars outcome.

Dandelion/Priscilla/Zoltan:
At the Chameleon.

Avallach:
Change nothing! or at his hideout

Thaler:
At the Seven Cats playing Gwent.

Skellige Ruler:
Cerys rules: Place table in the "feast hall" (Kaer Trolde) where she's sitting and doing paper work. (A short conversation about Crachs death would be good.)
Hjalmar: Standing next to Cerys. Make it look like he's trying to advise her.

Hjalmar rules: Place table in the "feast hall" (Kaer Trolde) where he's standing looking on maps. (A short conversation about Crachs death would be good.)
Cerys: Standing next to Hjalmar. Make it look like she's trying to advise him.

Svanrige rules: Place table in the "feast hall" (Kaer Trolde) where he's standing looking on maps.
Birna: Standing next to Svanrige. Make it look like she's trying to advise him.


(Basically same location/dialogue/animation. Change only the position of the characters, depending on who became the ruler.)

VOTE HERE

General Vote: http://strawpoll.me/4536523

More detailed Vote: http://strawpoll.me/4547104

Here is the issue with your link to the triss/yen romance tweak. They are only doing it for the romance but have come out and said they are adding nothing as far as content and tweaking nothing else either with this coming patch.

 

[Avin]

Yes, this has been adressed.

No, Eskel and Lamber don't wanna stay in KM.

 

[VegitoReborn]

Yes, this has been adressed.

No, Eskel and Lamber don't wanna stay in KM.

That is not what they said in the game. Don't really care what others opinions are the game trumps them.

 

[DaSmas]

Not sure why you are so angry...

Also... Um they do say exactley that...