Sure, most people wouldn't have, that's why CDPR told nobody... or rather, they didn't do nearly as laudly as they told the public all the good stuff that may (or may not) be in the final game.
in my opinion digital art needs to be legislated with definitions and standards. CDPR framed themselves as the last major game dev company that self-regulated and was ethical.
standards for the label RPG or Choices Matter need to be legally binding and based off of the classics that gave these definitions meaning.
EU and America do this all the time in different industries, especially with food products. You cannot sell American cheese and label it Cheddar. You shouldn't be able to do the same with digital media.
Consumers are at the mercy of corporations, they can and do literally what would be considered false advertising in any other industry.
So when, dear cdpr managers, we will have the full game? answer please
I am ready to put up with many things.
Are you removing wall running because it doesn't fit into the level design? OK! No problem.
Will there be no subway? I'm not against. Apparently fast travel terminals turned out to be simpler and more convenient.
Are you making the storyline of the game for only 20 hours? I'll just accept it! Because I trust you.
But when it turns out that there is more non-linearity in Cal of Duty Cold War than in Cyberpunk, I just can't figure it out! It seemed to me that you were making a plot for 20 hours, but in return it would be non-linear and variable. This is the worst, most terrible disappointment that this game could bring. I didn't care about everything, let it be bad physics, let it be bad AI, let it be stupid pedestrians, I could endure everything. BUT it turned out that this game lacks the most important thing - variability.
Are you removing wall running because it doesn't fit into the level design? OK! No problem.
Will there be no subway? I'm not against. Apparently fast travel terminals turned out to be simpler and more convenient.
Are you making the storyline of the game for only 20 hours? I'll just accept it! Because I trust you.
But when it turns out that there is more non-linearity in Cal of Duty Cold War than in Cyberpunk, I just can't figure it out! It seemed to me that you were making a plot for 20 hours, but in return it would be non-linear and variable. This is the worst, most terrible disappointment that this game could bring. I didn't care about everything, let it be bad physics, let it be bad AI, let it be stupid pedestrians, I could endure everything. BUT it turned out that this game lacks the most important thing - variability.
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false advertisement?
this game is an entire placeholder for too many DLCs
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this game is an entire placeholder for too many DLCs
Um, I guess you never saw the trailers.. here's the trailer for that..
Yeah, most of that's missing, isn't it?
And why did you lie about Jackie? Just why? Why did you do this? Do you understand how many hours I spent replaying the prologue? I went through all the options in the dialogues. I searched the entire hotel, rebooted the game over and over. I had all the options selected in the dialogs.
1.Go to the bar
2. go with Jackie
3.No answer the hotel staff
4. Answer all available answer choices
5 call Jacke on the phone many times before a mission
6. Examine every centimeter of Brayndans before the mission to find at least some clue.
Tried to hide from Adam Smasher. Tried to activate the laptop in Saburo Arasaki's helicopter. Tried to find some way to save Jackie. Until the last moment I thought that there was some secret, there was some way.
Just explain to me WHY? What's going on in this video? Is this some kind of joke or something? Why did you do this?
1.Go to the bar
2. go with Jackie
3.No answer the hotel staff
4. Answer all available answer choices
5 call Jacke on the phone many times before a mission
6. Examine every centimeter of Brayndans before the mission to find at least some clue.
Tried to hide from Adam Smasher. Tried to activate the laptop in Saburo Arasaki's helicopter. Tried to find some way to save Jackie. Until the last moment I thought that there was some secret, there was some way.
Just explain to me WHY? What's going on in this video? Is this some kind of joke or something? Why did you do this?
Again: The game they are talking about here =/= the game we are (not) playing right now... it's as simple as that.
Also: LOL, doing your own thing, sure, that's why you constantly do the NCPD's work for them.
I still can't believe that everything is so dumb. So dumb and simple. That this game is SO linear. I still believe that the laptop in Saburo Arasaki's helicopter can give an alternate ending. Maybe this is a bug and can be activated? Should I use the token from Saburo's neck? Maybe there is a way to somehow turn on the turret on the ceiling in the hotel room? It literally drives me crazy.
And what about the hidden sixth characteristic? Is this just a placeholder for DLS? It would be so frustrating and so dumb.
Perhaps because of stress, I just start to go crazy and look for something that simply does not exist. Like a crazy conspiracy theorist.
And what about the hidden sixth characteristic? Is this just a placeholder for DLS? It would be so frustrating and so dumb.
Perhaps because of stress, I just start to go crazy and look for something that simply does not exist. Like a crazy conspiracy theorist.
Pretty much that. They are not the first ones to do so. Though you would normally expect that kind of behavior from your typical suspects (EA, Ubi, Blizzard).
Pre-rendering a scene to build a neat little "Showcase" is common practice. To completely oversell the final product like they did though is more like W3 - Reforged (first example from the top of my head).
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Pretty sure you would not like the answers. As CDPR showed, they are pretty good at selling you something. I should assume the answers would be somewhere in the realm of:
- Yes. We actually did plan this particular feature, but we cut it so that people with certain disabilities (motion sickness f.e. or slow reflexes due to mechanical disabilities) could also enjoy every part of the game and would not have to sacrifice parts of their personal experience
Maybe a bad example, but I think you get where I am going.
Every answer they could give us would not be enough. Simply because we would never know how much of it is true and how much of it is just corpo bs, since honesty seems more like a foreign concept to the higher ups.
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Where were those developers though? They knew the release date. They knew the state of the game. Where was their opposition to a release?
AFTER, they confronted the higher ups. AFTER it was confirmed that bonuses are paid regardless of rating.
Don't get me wrong. I do not blame the devs entirely. If only half the rumors of what went on behind CDPR's doors are true, it was a massive shitshow. Nonetheless are those the same devs that kept quit about every part of the state of the game. Or do you really think they would not read the statements made by their bosses / the media team? Do you think they would not watch interviews and stuff like that?
They had a chance to speak up and did not. NOT ONE OF THEM !!
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Imo this would be the exact opposite of what they HAVE TO do (not should).
Your reasoning enables that kind of behavior in the first place. "Oh you did not deliver all the content? Well. Let me pay you some more money for the rest of it."
NO. To expect them to deliver every single item on those lists for free is not economical. BUT to deliver at least 60% on those lists? It is necessary to even remotely restore some of the trust (still, just my opinion).
What you are suggesting is (still only mo) to actually reward them for delivering a half-assed mess.
Hit them where it hurts. Their wallets.
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christ
this type of thinking is why the market is in such bad shape for consumers
stop giving these major tech corps money, you are just ensuring that a company that could compete with them won't ever be able to get off the ground because you keep funding the bad ones despite their quality and practices.
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I am curious how much the Witcher 2 changed between release version 1.00 and the final version of the Enhanced Edition?
A lot, a playing them all. Compleately improved game in everyway in less than a year, really.
Base game? Not much... it was pretty stable and feature complete at launch...
You sure? I remember only minor quality of life stuff, to be honest.
Humanity is an interesting mechanic from the Tabletop which is about balancing cyberware, too much of it will cause your humanity to drop to 0 and cyberpyschosis sets in. Now there are certain cyberware that doesn't hurt humanity, a lot of fashionware or medical stuff, but make yourself a full borg like Adam Smasher, yea you are going to tank humanity.
Considering Wilson looks like the guy who would be asking a kid if they want candy and get in the van......this is hilarious and 100% true!!
LMAO!
I will admit I've had a lot of fun playing on PC and initially, I was tolerating the bugs to a humorous extent that they reminded me of my days playing TES Oblivion. I wouldn't say I'm ridiculously far but have played quite a bit. I'm hesitant to play anymore though. Such wonderful potential, amazing hype nearly a decade long, Empty promises, and such wasted opportunities. I feel silly writing this as it basically echos the millions out there writing the same posts on here, Reddit, Steam, GoG, etc literally right now. I won't pretend I don't like the game because I really do, but this sort of practice is what ruins game companies. I never expected all my wildest dreams to be included in the game, but the amount scrapped compared to the "finished" buggy state, especially after being delayed more than once, is such a shame for everyone involved. My gut is telling me that customization features will be later released as a component to the multiplayer as paid cosmetics. I really hope this is not the case.
Wow I had not seen that video. Apparently Miles didn't know at some point that Jackie dies...I've said it before and I'll say it again poor project management. There was clearly a significant lack of communication.