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TheRetroGoat

Fresh user
#341
Dec 22, 2020
Even ignoring the bugs, this game kinda sucks. You don't affect the story at all, the content itself is that annoyingly repetitive "There's so many sidequests! It's all the same mission, but because you have to do it three hundred times it counts as content!", the amount of promised features that just don't exist is staggering, most of the characters aren't memorable because you barely interact with them, etc.

I also personally hate how garbage the romance is. I was hyped for dating elements, like in Mass Effect or Fallout 4, until it turned out there's almost nothing there. One gay and one straight option for the male and female characters, and the quests are maybe three hours long. That's just weak, and that's ignoring how borderline irrelevant to the plot each of them are. Judy's the only one with any real relevance, but she's blocked off by gender. Kerry is canonically bi, but same issue. Why not just have everyone be bi? Not like your genital choice ever appears outside of the original customization, and the cutscene is in first person anyway.

Plus the AI is non existent, the city just feels dead, buying cars is a joke, and I (and many others) could just keep going.

I'm just upset this awesome, jam packed game that was supposed to actually be adult turned out to just kinda suck. And that's ignoring the bugs. If the game was fully functional, it would still just be "okay" and nowhere near groundbreaking. It really shouldn't have had all the content cut except the most bare bones open world shooter in some time. Nothing about it is new, except for the nudity, which is exclusively in character customization and a few nipples in-game, so does that really count?
 
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Rarooney

Rarooney

Forum regular
#342
Dec 22, 2020
Ezylox said:
I don't think it's true, many shareholders probably don't even know a thing or care about video games. They saw how successful TW3 was so they bought some stocks. It's the same thing with movies, music and so on (it's different but you understand what I mean)
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Maybe those who put a few thousands dollars 'just put some money' but those who put milions in the pot knows very well how the company works. For sure.
 
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DexLuther

DexLuther

Fresh user
#343
Dec 22, 2020
Ezylox said:
Microsoft and Sony are still multi billions corporations at the end of the day, they knew how many people preordered the game and probably didn't want to lose any money
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Cyberpunk passing or failing submission makes absolutely no difference for Sony or Microsoft. They have their own shareholders and letting stuff pass that shouldn't damages Microsoft and Sony's brand more than it helps it, plus it erodes trust in the company and devalues their own stock.

The same number of people would have still had the game pre-ordered 6 months, a year even 2 years from now. Even if some people cancelled, many would have picked up the game once it finally came out. Now they have to issue refunds.

Seriously, this is a much more serious issue than you think it is. Having Cyberpunk pass submission in the state it was in on consoles at launch. Especially the base models. It shows that people handling the submissions weren't doing their job properly, and that's how malicious software that purposely bricks consoles, steals personal information and/or brings down the whole Xbox Live or PSN network ends up getting on those stores. People attempt to sneak that kind of stuff past more often than you'd think.
 
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warbaby2

Forum veteran
#344
Dec 22, 2020
DexLuther said:
Cyberpunk passing or failing submission makes absolutely no difference for Sony or Microsoft. They have their own shareholders and letting stuff that pass that shouldn't damages Microsoft and Sony's brand more than it helps it, plus it erodes trust in the company and devalues their own stock.

The same number of people would have still had the game pre-ordered 6 months, a year even 2 years from now. Even if some people cancelled, many would have picked up the game once it finally came out. Now they have to issue refunds.

Seriously, this is a much more serious issue than you think it is. Having Cyberpunk pass submission in the state it was in on consoles at launch. Especially the base models. It shows that people handling the submissions weren't doing their job properly, and that's how malicious software that purposely bricks consoles, steals personal information and/or brings down the whole Xbox Live or PSN network ends up getting on those stores. People attempt to sneak that kind of stuff past more often than you'd think.
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As far as I know, the standards a game has to meet are really very basic... neither MS nor Sony care if a game even works properly, let alone is feature complete, all they really care about is if it bricks their consoles or compromises network security in any way. The reason this time is so different, at least for Sony, is probably that CDPR went over their heads with their hasty refund promises...
 
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alquemir

Fresh user
#345
Dec 22, 2020
They will probably just fix the bugs and move on. Don't expect anything new in terms of cut content, RPG mechanics being brought back or even AI being fixed by these scammers. I really hope this studio goes up in flames for deceiving their fanbase.
 
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Rarooney

Rarooney

Forum regular
#346
Dec 22, 2020
alquemir said:
They will probably just fix the bugs and move on. Don't expect anything new in terms of cut content, RPG mechanics being brought back or even AI being fixed by these scammers. I really hope this studio goes up in flames for deceiving their fanbase.
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No need to wish unfortune on the company, they have made some false promises and in my opinion false advertisement. The last thing I'd wish is for the company to go up in flames, it is a wonderful company however they need to sincerely apologize for this disaster and point out what happend, no sugercoding, no stupid prevarications. Solid truth and one huge and sincere apology. Followed up with taking the time needed to bring back possible features and fixing the game to a fully playable state. This subject on the forum wasnt made to **** on CDPR, it was to direct criticism and let our voice heard of our disappointment.
 
Ezylox

Ezylox

Forum regular
#347
Dec 22, 2020
Rarooney said:
Maybe those who put a few thousands dollars 'just put some money' but those who put milions in the put knows very well how the company works. For sure.
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Film producers are supposed to know what they are doing and yet they more than often completely ruined movies. I'm not saying shareholders are the only one to blame but they certainly played a part in this
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DexLuther said:
Cyberpunk passing or failing submission makes absolutely no difference for Sony or Microsoft. They have their own shareholders and letting stuff pass that shouldn't damages Microsoft and Sony's brand more than it helps it, plus it erodes trust in the company and devalues their own stock.

The same number of people would have still had the game pre-ordered 6 months, a year even 2 years from now. Even if some people cancelled, many would have picked up the game once it finally came out. Now they have to issue refunds.

Seriously, this is a much more serious issue than you think it is. Having Cyberpunk pass submission in the state it was in on consoles at launch. Especially the base models. It shows that people handling the submissions weren't doing their job properly, and that's how malicious software that purposely bricks consoles, steals personal information and/or brings down the whole Xbox Live or PSN network ends up getting on those stores. People attempt to sneak that kind of stuff past more often than you'd think.
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They had to play 5 minutes to notice how disastrous the game is on console so it's not about a bunch of people not making their job right at this point
 
martygod

martygod

Forum regular
#348
Dec 22, 2020
NevaEilhart said:
I love how CDPR said all over this video that its content was going to be altered but yet...

I love how back then it was a presentation only for the press but crybabies wanted to see it so bad they went that extra mile and released it for all to see, even if they stressed many times it was not a final product.

I love how ignorant some can be about developping games and what features eventually get cut when you try implementing them on a larger scope. What works in a small part of a scripted quest to showcase a game concept to the press might not work in a more open environnement or in a longer run. But I guess that's too hard to understand.

Bottom line : I hope next time CDPR won't bother showing early stuff to please the crowd.
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Lol blind fanboy, the lied about so many things in this game, there is a huge amount of content missing which should have been in the game, they were stating even months and weeks before releasae how this is gonna be the new standart for RPG games. So many is missing.

And harder to implement in open environment? Dont get me laugh if they dont know how to do it maybe they should not develop games at all, lots of those featrues or interactions people are complaining about and wanting for this game already works in so many other big open world game, so dont give me some "hard to implement" BS. If it were so hard to implement then no games would have such features and content.
 
warbaby2

warbaby2

Forum veteran
#349
Dec 22, 2020
Tracido said:
Had to.
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Yea... one of those games is from 2013 and cost 260 mil and one is from 2020 and cost 330 mil... guess which one is which.
 
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Kieran_Grosvenor

Kieran_Grosvenor

Forum regular
#350
Dec 22, 2020
This game is seriously buggy and early access.
 
Cyber.D.G.

Cyber.D.G.

Forum regular
#351
Dec 22, 2020
alquemir said:
I really hope this studio goes up in flames...
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It will. And that's sad.
Many talented people, who worked on TW3 already left CDPR. And soon, the rest will leave/be replaced.
Dont want to be a pessimist here, but this game company soon with probably fade away.
 
Kieran_Grosvenor

Kieran_Grosvenor

Forum regular
#352
Dec 22, 2020
Cyber.D.G. said:
It will probably. That's sad.
Many talented people, who worked on TW3 already left CDPR. And soon, the rest will leave/be replaced.
Dont want to be a pessimist here, but this game company soon with probably fade away.
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Steam have us all with that 2 hours gameplay policy but the game still doesn't function as intended, is it possible to get a refund? :/
 
Cyber.D.G.

Cyber.D.G.

Forum regular
#353
Dec 22, 2020
Kieran_Grosvenor said:
Steam have us all with that 2 hours gameplay policy but the game still doesn't function as intended, is it possible to get a refund? :/
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No. Dont think so.
And actually I dont want to. The game is not bad. And it have HUGE potential.
CDPR can come back, with CP2077.
If after all the fixes and dlcs, CP2077 will remain "Cyber Far Cry" - then CDPR are doomed.
 
Kieran_Grosvenor

Kieran_Grosvenor

Forum regular
#354
Dec 22, 2020
Cyber.D.G. said:
No. Dont think so.
And actually I dont want to. The game is not bad. And it have HUGE potential.
CDPR can come back, with CP2077.
If after all the fixes and dlcs, CP2077 will remain "Cyber Far Cry" - then CDPR are doomed.
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Man i hope so i feel really let down by this ill wait it out
 
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alquemir

Fresh user
#355
Dec 22, 2020
Rarooney said:
No need to wish unfortune on the company, they have made some false promises and in my opinion false advertisement. The last thing I'd wish is for the company to go up in flames ...
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Well they could come out clean, regarding on what exactly they are planning to do in order to address these issues. But so far, as we have seen in the board meeting call they only plan to fix the main storyline bugs and tweak slightly the performance on the base consoles.

Nothing points towards rebuilding the core of the game, so I advise you to not keep your hopes high regarding this company. They have proven they are not reliable and don't care about their reputation among their long term fans. They could easily outsource the bug fixing, hire contractors in order to quickly clean this mess, but the fact of matter is that they won't.
 
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Nycodemus

Nycodemus

Fresh user
#356
Dec 22, 2020
After 18 Page in can say my own thought.

You can clearly see in game what got cut. All closed door "locked press f", yes many was supposed to be explorable, when you are close on many of them just check the minimap.

Interaction with npc.. that's really, really strange. When the game was release i mean the first version we played, somehow when i pressed "z" instead of "f" i just got new interaction random. A bug? I have no idea and that was working not with every npc.

As last, the sixth ability slot at a certain point of the story start blinking like there is a way to use it.

Sorry for my bad, i mean, really bad english guys.
 
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Grindders

Senior user
#357
Dec 22, 2020
Nycodemus said:
When the game was release i mean the first version we played, somehow when i pressed "z" instead of "f" i just got new interaction random.
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Wow. Can you elaborate on that? Any examples?
 
Nycodemus

Nycodemus

Fresh user
#358
Dec 22, 2020
I will try.. when i press "f" i get a dialog after you get only "..." or something like "..!" or again the first one. With "z" there was sometimes a new dialog. Sure there was no way to reply, but still a different dialog text/line.
 
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YourWightKnight

Fresh user
#359
Dec 22, 2020
I realize a lot of my posts have been pretty critical but I do not wish them to go down in flames for this and I don't think they deserve it. CDPR has been amazing to fans in the past. They have been champions of DRM free content and have provided numerous DLC for their games that has been amazing.

Did they fuck up the launch? Absolutely. But they should be given the chance to make it right and I have faith that they will. I've been with them since Witcher 1 and they in my opinion are one of the only good guys out there. I'm disappointed. They've let us all down but I think they have earned the right to try make this right. I guess we'll see over the coming months if they can do that and I hope in my heart of hearts that they can. And we can all look back and laugh about this.

I mean the game is great. If they can fix the bugs and put back in some of the stripped content then it could be fantastic. There is a lot of promised content that is straight up missing and they have their work cut out to meet that promise. Lets see if they can achieve it.
 
Cloud7

Cloud7

Forum regular
#360
Dec 22, 2020
Tracido said:
Um, I guess you never saw the trailers.. here's the trailer for that..

Yeah, most of that's missing, isn't it?
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Actually i started looking for stuff because i saw the trailers. And i even found the stations for said trains with doors etc. sound is also working. But aside from that i only have found many places you should be able to visit but have closed doors.
 
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