Ya because guns clipping through the vehicle was awesome codinghttps://www.reddit.com/r/cyberpunkgame/comments/kjsakm
Vehicle combat in the free roam was cut. It appeared in trailer but wasn't finished in the game
Ya because guns clipping through the vehicle was awesome codinghttps://www.reddit.com/r/cyberpunkgame/comments/kjsakm
Vehicle combat in the free roam was cut. It appeared in trailer but wasn't finished in the game
You cant explain any of this to the crazed fanboys, all you gonna hear is "but they had work in progress there blah blah blah, its your fault you were overhyped and expected unrealistic things blah blah, its game of the year blah blah".A lot of people compare what we got to the 2018 demo. And a lot of people seem to think that the "subject to change" is a valid defence in favour of CDPR, when it comes to accusations of false / misleading marketing.
A reasonable gamer might expect the final product to be changed over the course of development. But by "change" gamers tend to imagine the presented mechanics are fleshed out, expanded upon, less buggy, more flashy... not removed completely with a hacksaw. We've had games downgrade visuals to match expected performance levels and such... and it's always met with criticism (the bigger the change, the bigger the criticism). Essentially - it's a matter of scope and perceived change "direction".
Change features for the better and no one will be angry; in fact people will be happy that you delivered more than you advertised (under promise, overdeliver). For example the overall quality of visuals seems to have been improved since the 2018, and that's a plus for CDPR.
Change features for... something different (but of similar quality), and while some people might be a bit angry, the general consensus will likely be that it's OK, provided you come clean about such changes prior to release.
Change for the worse and people get angry - the more you change for the worse, the more angry people will get. Unfortunately for CDPR and the 2018 demo, this is the most common case, with features removed left, right and centre. Inspections, trams, spider bot, character creation choices... all hacked away from the title. Takedowns, significantly simplified. Crowd density - lowered. Plenty of things the narrator taunts or promises - missing. Any one of these things changed for the worse or missing would still get some people complaining, but in the grand scheme of things wouldn't probably matter. But when the scope was reduced so much, then it starts to be a problem.
And here's the best part... For a moment, forget about the 2018 demo. Forget about the 2019 demo. All you need to do is focus on all the pre-release 2020 marketing materials (trailers and Night City Wire episodes especially) and it's easy to find things that are misleading JUST THERE. No matter how you look at it, CDPR's marketing for CP77, compared to the final product, seems grossly misleading.
A lot of people compare what we got to the 2018 demo. And a lot of people seem to think that the "subject to change" is a valid defence in favour of CDPR, when it comes to accusations of false / misleading marketing.
A reasonable gamer might expect the final product to be changed over the course of development. But by "change" gamers tend to imagine the presented mechanics are fleshed out, expanded upon, less buggy, more flashy... not removed completely with a hacksaw. We've had games downgrade visuals to match expected performance levels and such... and it's always met with criticism (the bigger the change, the bigger the criticism). Essentially - it's a matter of scope and perceived change "direction".
You cant explain any of this to the crazed fanboys, all you gonna hear is "but they had work in progress there blah blah blah, its your fault you were overhyped and expected unrealistic things blah blah, its game of the year blah blah".
CP77 in many aspects doesnt even meet standards for a ps2 open world game, the fact that games like Oblivion or GTA SA have much better AI and interactive immersive open worlds is embarassing towards CDPR.
Well said broder... And misled also means tricked or lied.A lot of people compare what we got to the 2018 demo. And a lot of people seem to think that the "subject to change" is a valid defence in favour of CDPR, when it comes to accusations of false / misleading marketing.
A reasonable gamer might expect the final product to be changed over the course of development. But by "change" gamers tend to imagine the presented mechanics are fleshed out, expanded upon, less buggy, more flashy... not removed completely with a hacksaw. We've had games downgrade visuals to match expected performance levels and such... and it's always met with criticism (the bigger the change, the bigger the criticism). Essentially - it's a matter of scope and perceived change "direction".
Change features for the better and no one will be angry; in fact people will be happy that you delivered more than you advertised (under promise, overdeliver). For example the overall quality of visuals seems to have been improved since the 2018, and that's a plus for CDPR.
Change features for... something different (but of similar quality), and while some people might be a bit angry, the general consensus will likely be that it's OK, provided you come clean about such changes prior to release.
Change for the worse and people get angry - the more you change for the worse, the more angry people will get. Unfortunately for CDPR and the 2018 demo, this is the most common case, with features removed left, right and centre. Inspections, trams, spider bot, character creation choices... all hacked away from the title. Takedowns, significantly simplified. Crowd density - lowered. Plenty of things the narrator taunts or promises - missing. Any one of these things changed for the worse or missing would still get some people complaining, but in the grand scheme of things wouldn't probably matter. But when the scope was reduced so much, then it starts to be a problem.
And here's the best part... For a moment, forget about the 2018 demo. Forget about the 2019 demo. All you need to do is focus on all the pre-release 2020 marketing materials (trailers and Night City Wire episodes especially) and it's easy to find things that are misleading JUST THERE. No matter how you look at it, CDPR's marketing for CP77, compared to the final product, seems grossly misleading.
Followed 0 hype around the game and I'm loving the game, but seeing that list is depressing. Not trying to defend cdpr but depending how far back that list goes there has to be a reason they removed it all. I truly don't think they set out to con gamers. Even if they can't put it all back in or re enable things they should at least comment on it all. The 'say nothing' approach is the real kick in the nuts. Sure people may not accept what they say, but at least say something; unless they have big unprecedented plans for the next few patches.Here's the list:
- Rideable NCART Monorail Transit System
- Playable Arcade machines & Pool tables
- Ripperdocs are interactive while you select upgrades/Cyberware and also show the procedure for installing all of them [like at the start of the game]
- Being able to buy items from all vendors
- Apartment and vehicle customization
- More mini-games [Gwent-like card game for all the cards you collect, bar sports, etc.]
- An expansion set in space on the Crystal Palace Space Station
- Barbershops, Bodysculpting centers and Tattoo Parlors
- A Synthwave radio station
- A flashlight for dark areas
- Thermal and Night Vision modes for your Kiroshi Optics
- Better Police, Enemy and NPC A.I.
- Interactive Karaoke bars
- Put the Optical Camo back in the game
- Real-time weather effects [not just quest driven] where storms slowly roll in - ala RDR2 - with varying levels of rain/thunder/lighting
- Being able to hack enemies with the Monowire
- Being able to buy Braindance BDs and view them in your apartment
- Being able to purchase Aerodynes
- More apartments/housing
- Being able to select what color your car will be before you buy it from Fixers
- Vehicle dealerships
- Bring back the motorized shopping cart NPC
- NPCs can also drive Motorcycles. I've only seen them drive cars
- More destructibility in the environments
- Being able to analyze and zoom-in on items in your inventory
- Having a way to do the "First Equip" animation on command
- Being able to shoot while you are driving
- Having different types of ammunition for your guns
- More Joytoys
- More customization options added to character creation
- Spent shells stay on-screen for a while
- Better water physics [reacts to being shot, explosions and bodies]
- Better vehicle handling and physics [also being able to shoot tires and gastanks]
- An "Old School" weapons pack that has famous retro weapons from the 1980s and 1990s - like Brass Knuckles, Chains, Shurikens, Nunchucks, AK-47, Uzi, Beretta 92FS, Ingram MAC-10, M-16, SPAS-12 Shotgun, Rick Deckard's Blade Runner Blaster, Walther PPK, .357 Magnum and a Gatling Gun. Some of these are featured in Cyberpunk 2020
- Items and vendors that are only obtainable/accessible dependent on your Street Cred level
- Being able to see your status/reputation with Gangs
- Choices should matter more for Side Gigs - as well as offering more branching paths and outcomes
- More inclusion of Trauma Team and MAX-TAC
- Better eating and drinking animations
- Being able to sit in all chairs
- Customizable HUD and Menu coloring
- Mini-Map allows you to zoom-in and out for better visibility
- Self-driving/Autopilot mode for vehicles
- Better Waypoint markers
- Being able to listen to the radio while walking around
- Shops have their names displayed on the map
- Being able to try on clothes to see how they look before buying them
- Being able to sleep in the bed in our apartment
- Hailing Cabs with the options of Fast Travel or just enjoying the ride
- Street names appear on the Map Screen when you zoom-in
- One of the expansions features Morgan Blackhand
- Wall running
Yep can't be nude outside the inventory menu so many people thought it was a bug and also shows that the genital customization and ability to play as a trans character were just marketing tools. way more angry about mentioned things not being in game than any bugs or console performance issues.You forgot to add:
FULL NUDITY
Hi everyone, Black-Chamber can I share your post on my tumblr ? People have to read that.Here's the list:
- Rideable NCART Monorail Transit System
- Playable Arcade machines & Pool tables
- Ripperdocs are interactive while you select upgrades/Cyberware and also show the procedure for installing all of them [like at the start of the game]
- Being able to buy items from all vendors
- Apartment and vehicle customization
- More mini-games [Gwent-like card game for all the cards you collect, bar sports, etc.]
- An expansion set in space on the Crystal Palace Space Station
- Barbershops, Bodysculpting centers and Tattoo Parlors
- A Synthwave radio station
- A flashlight for dark areas
- Thermal and Night Vision modes for your Kiroshi Optics
- Better Police, Enemy and NPC A.I.
- Interactive Karaoke bars
- Put the Optical Camo back in the game
- Real-time weather effects [not just quest driven] where storms slowly roll in - ala RDR2 - with varying levels of rain/thunder/lighting
- Being able to hack enemies with the Monowire
- Being able to buy Braindance BDs and view them in your apartment
- Being able to purchase Aerodynes
- More apartments/housing
- Being able to select what color your car will be before you buy it from Fixers
- Vehicle dealerships
- Bring back the motorized shopping cart NPC
- NPCs can also drive Motorcycles. I've only seen them drive cars
- More destructibility in the environments
- Being able to analyze and zoom-in on items in your inventory
- Having a way to do the "First Equip" animation on command
- Being able to shoot while you are driving
- Having different types of ammunition for your guns
- More Joytoys
- More customization options added to character creation
- Spent shells stay on-screen for a while
- Better water physics [reacts to being shot, explosions and bodies]
- Better vehicle handling and physics [also being able to shoot tires and gastanks]
- An "Old School" weapons pack that has famous retro weapons from the 1980s and 1990s - like Brass Knuckles, Chains, Shurikens, Nunchucks, AK-47, Uzi, Beretta 92FS, Ingram MAC-10, M-16, SPAS-12 Shotgun, Rick Deckard's Blade Runner Blaster, Walther PPK, .357 Magnum and a Gatling Gun. Some of these are featured in Cyberpunk 2020
- Items and vendors that are only obtainable/accessible dependent on your Street Cred level
- Being able to see your status/reputation with Gangs
- Choices should matter more for Side Gigs - as well as offering more branching paths and outcomes
- More inclusion of Trauma Team and MAX-TAC
- Better eating and drinking animations
- Being able to sit in all chairs
- Customizable HUD and Menu coloring
- Mini-Map allows you to zoom-in and out for better visibility
- Self-driving/Autopilot mode for vehicles
- Better Waypoint markers
- Being able to listen to the radio while walking around
- Shops have their names displayed on the map
- Being able to try on clothes to see how they look before buying them
- Being able to sleep in the bed in our apartment
- Hailing Cabs with the options of Fast Travel or just enjoying the ride
- Street names appear on the Map Screen when you zoom-in
- One of the expansions features Morgan Blackhand
- Wall running
Have at it!Hi everyone, Black-Chamber can I share your post on my tumblr ? People have to read that.
I hope CDPR will add at least a big part of this list.
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Hopefully they will add that functionality back into the game as well.I don't if it was mentioned or shown in a trailer but apparently taking a ride in the bus or driving it was possible.
https://www.reddit.com/r/cyberpunkgame/comments/kr90c6
I don't if it was mentioned or shown in a trailer but apparently taking a ride in the bus or driving it was possible.
https://www.reddit.com/r/cyberpunkgame/comments/kr90c6
I don't think there are buses in traffic. Even motorcycles aren't in trafficDid they remove the busses entirely?
After seeing this, I couldn't recall if I'd even seen any in the game. I just rode all over the city for 30 minutes looking, and I haven't spotted a single one anywhere.
I don't if it was mentioned or shown in a trailer but apparently taking a ride in the bus or driving it was possible.
https://www.reddit.com/r/cyberpunkgame/comments/kr90c6