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Aes Sídhe

Aes Sídhe

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#1,801
Aug 2, 2014
AL890 said:
Oh, there's books in our house alright. Most of them are mine though. My Dad owns a few books on both World Wars and firearm history but that's it. All the books I own are Medieval to Cold War history as well as Fantasy and Sci-Fi novels (including The Witcher series obviously) along with a few Graphic Novels.
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Aye well there you have it I guess, we all have our own tastes, and some like to read more than others. As an aspirational working class man my dad loved to read, even now in his 88th year when I visit weekly theres a different pile of a half dozen books with bookmarks shot through on every subject under the sun, and by the time I the 4th son was born there were plenty on the shelves for me to choose. Television use was rationed in our house, we were expected & encouraged to read or go out and play. My mum also loves language and complex tales (shes Aaron Sorkins biggest fan, I swear), she probably started me off with bedtime stories of the myths she had been brought up with, and encouraged increased vocabulary with constant word games. Thing is I have diaries & other evidence going back 2oo years that such behaviour regarding books, language & learning was a tradition on both sides of my family, and to my mind its an Irish tradition, obviously not going to be followed by everyone, people will drop off & break with the past for various reasons, but the preponderance of literary giants from our wee island & its 15oo year history of writing (including saving Western learning during the Dark Ages and returning it to mainland Europe when they were ready) - and we can't forget the penal laws that banned our formal education for generations, which we got around by using "hedge schools", and ultimately it is felt backfired like every other tactic in the oppressors handbook by solidifying a respect for learning indicates a distinctive trait in the Irish psyche for writing, language & communication (i'd like to think thats a human trait). Even the least educated among us make wonderful gobshites ;)

Blothulfur said:
Pity they don't teach local mythology and cultural heritage in schools, wonder why that is? All in all I don't think I missed much from wagging school all time.
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Och these things are poopooed to some extent as largely irrelevant in the modern world, quaint & worthless. Nothing could be further from the truth. The myths of your people & locale will be closer to you than any other entertainment, and they convey deep human issues as well as geographical info. The myths of other cultures can provide insight into them, and also a sense of connection through the similarities. These things are 1ooo-7ooo years old, and show how little we have really changed in all that time, such realisation is enlightenment.

I'm personally convinced that my early introduction to myths has been nothing but beneficial to my life, and I skipped a hell of a lot of school myself bored to tears, my education is primarily the result of my parents, fair play to them, they did it right.

The thing I recognise about all our myths, in the culture when they were popular, they were the main force of social engineering behaviour (seems we've replaced that with prison & threat of prison). Homers tales emboldened the Spartans all wanting to be Achilles, Viking tales gave them no fear of death as there was nothing for them to fear since their fate was already set, Arthurian tales produced the age of Chivalry. These things created, transmitted & dispersed the Zeitgeist of their era, but no longer, and it is a shame.
 
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Blothulfur

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Aug 2, 2014
Aye now we have Twilight instead.
 
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Alan989

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Aug 2, 2014
Blothulfur said:
Aye now we have Twilight instead.
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Heresy! Do not mention that name here! It has destroyed too many minds as it is! :wallbash:
 
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Aes Sídhe

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Aug 2, 2014
Blothulfur said:
Aye now we have Twilight instead.
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You are right of course. Reminds me of Chris "Brass Eye" Morris:
If a terrorist organisation wanted to knock out the moral compass of Britain, all they'd have to do is to kill 100 celebrities at random. The entire country would have an instant nervous breakdown.
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So sad that it's quite true.
 
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Alan989

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Aug 2, 2014
@Kudos

We'd probably be better off though! :troll:
 
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Aes Sídhe

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#1,806
Aug 2, 2014
hehe :p

Though seriously, not at all. Our neighbours are our brothers, and it's easy to leave the nefarious machinations of the few in the past were they belong, and move forward riding the best of our shared history, and there is plenty of that especially at the grass roots level of ordinary folk. Anybody who doesn't realise the positive contributions towards humanity over many centuries arising from the good people of the UK are living in denial. If they went tits-up we'd miss their humour at least. ;)

Those who live in the past can never learn from it.
 
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Alan989

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Aug 2, 2014
Kudos said:
hehe :p

Though seriously, not at all. Our neighbours are our brothers, and it's easy to leave the nefarious machinations of the few in the past were they belong, and move forward riding the best of our shared history, and there is plenty of that especially at the grass roots level of ordinary folk. Anybody who doesn't realise the positive contributions towards humanity over many centuries arising from the good people of the UK are living in denial. If they went tits-up we'd miss their humour at least. ;)

Those who live in the past can never learn from it.
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I was referring to the celebrities. Let's face it, most of them are useless, though I would rather see them taken off the air than...ahem... "removed".

Anyway, back on topic. Look at this!

Gotham City before Batman? YES PLEASE! :yes:
 
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Aes Sídhe

Aes Sídhe

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Aug 3, 2014
AL890 said:
I was referring to the celebrities. Let's face it, most of them are useless, though I would rather see them taken off the air than...ahem... "removed".
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Ahh I see what you meant now, still you could've been clearer :p

I dunno, do we even have celebrities? I certainly can't scrape up 100 of them, but then it is early. Gerry Andersons a star that does come to mind, though hardly a moral compass ;)


(This is a recording of typical banter between Gerry (10:30am slot eclectic music show) and Stephen Nolan (9:00am bloody awful scaremongering shock-jock) on BBC Ulster radio.)
 
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Alan989

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Aug 3, 2014
I don't listen to that station because of how annoying those two are, well, that and the awful music! I always ask my Dad, when we are traveling down the road, to change to U105 because at least they have good music playing and don't do stupid things like argue like an old married couple!

:facepalm:
 
Garrison72

Garrison72

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#1,810
Aug 3, 2014
I've fallen in love with Martina Hill. I just wish I could find more skits with English subtitles:


 
Aes Sídhe

Aes Sídhe

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Aug 3, 2014
This is one of my favourite current comedians, funny funny, brave, fecking dude :)


 
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Chewin3

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#1,812
Aug 4, 2014
AL890 said:
Anyway, back on topic. Look at this!

Gotham City before Batman? YES PLEASE! :yes:
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This has the potential to be utter crap, or quite good. Hope for the latter though.
 
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Alan989

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Aug 4, 2014
Chewin said:
This has the potential to be utter crap, or quite good. Hope for the latter though.
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I'm quietly muttering under my breath "Please be good" when I see it advertised.
 
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gedierond

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Aug 4, 2014
I watched Guardians of the Galaxy the other day, and I agree with the comments made here: it´s quite entertaining and fun!
It´s more of a space adventure movie than a superhero movie, and it´s good at that! It doesn´t take itself too serious, and that adds to its fun element. All in all, I really enjoyed it!
 
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Alan989

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Aug 4, 2014
gedierond said:
I watched Guardians of the Galaxy the other day, and I agree with the comments made here: it´s quite entertaining and fun!
It´s more of a space adventure movie than a superhero movie, and it´s good at that! It doesn´t take itself too serious, and that adds to its fun element. All in all, I really enjoyed it!
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Good to see you enjoyed it! It also puts you in the mood to see the next Avengers movie! :hatsoff:
 
Sephira

Sephira

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#1,816
Aug 4, 2014
I saw "The Seventh Seal", one of the most distressing films I've ever seen, but these are details. :p
It must be said that it is quite slow but it is a particular movie, it is not easy to understand because in the end it may seem monotonous and morality is not immediately understandable, after a while, I went to read the interpretation.
The dialogues are beautiful though, and the scenes with Death are very impressive, as there's the tangible difference between the characters: from the God-fearing to the materialist, from the innocent to the carefree, from the petty to the arrogant.

There are so many beautiful quotations, and this despite being so simple struck me:

Death: Why do not you stop making so many questions?
Antonius: No, I will not stop.
Death: But no one will answer.
 
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GuyNwah

Ex-moderator
#1,817
Aug 4, 2014
Synvael said:
I saw "The Seventh Seal", one of the most distressing films I've ever seen, but these are details. :p
It must be said that it is quite slow but it is a particular movie, it is not easy to understand because in the end it may seem monotonous and morality is not immediately understandable, after a while, I went to read the interpretation.
The dialogues are beautiful though, and the scenes with Death are very impressive, as there's the tangible difference between the characters: from the God-fearing to the materialist, from the innocent to the carefree, from the petty to the arrogant.

There are so many beautiful quotations, and this despite being so simple struck me:

Death: Why do not you stop making so many questions?
Antonius: No, I will not stop.
Death: But no one will answer.
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That quotation probably sums up the film better than any other single quotation could. Block calls upon God, and there is no answer; he gazes into the abyss, and there is nothing there.

The others perforce make their peace with Death in the silence, but only simple Jof ("You and your visions!") can see that God has not abandoned the world, and nobody believes him.

If you need an antidote to The Seventh Seal, Bergman probably did too, because his next movie was Wild Strawberries. Or Smiles of a Summer Night; this reminds me of the non-canon story of Geralt and Yennefer's wedding.
 
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Gilrond-i-Virdan

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#1,818
Aug 4, 2014
gedierond said:
Regarding the Tauriel-Kili relationship, it´s not only something they came up for the movie out of nowhere, but it´s also something with no purpose whatsoever, plot-wise. Why is it there?? To simply fill the Hollywood corny movie checklist?
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You could ask why is Tauriel there to begin with, when she is not in the book. She was put in the scenario by Philippa Boyens as far as I know. I don't really mind it, since they already deviated from the book far enough.

I'm more critical about cases when they change existing characters significantly from who they are the books (there were quite a number of such problems in the Lord of The Rings). When they introduce their own - let them be creative, as long as it fits well with the story.
 
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GuyNwah

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#1,819
Aug 4, 2014
Gilrond said:
You could ask why is Tauriel there to begin with, when she is not in the book. She was put in the scenario by Philippa Boyens as far as I know. I don't really mind it, since they already deviated from the book far enough.

I'm more critical about cases when they change existing characters significantly from who they are the books (there were quite a number of such problems in the Lord of The Rings). When they introduce their own - let them be creative, as long as it fits well with the story.
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The introduction of Tauriel has been said to be due to the near-total absence of meaningful female characters in Tolkien. Éowyn is the lone exception, really. And she was so successful that the writers were probably told to write in another character like her, and give her a love interest you can make a secondary story out of. Which they did as well as they could.
 
Gilrond-i-Virdan

Gilrond-i-Virdan

Forum veteran
#1,820
Aug 4, 2014
Guy N'wah said:
The introduction of Tauriel has been said to be due to the near-total absence of meaningful female characters in Tolkien. Éowyn is the lone exception, really. And she was so successful that the writers were probably told to write in another character like her, and give her a love interest you can make a secondary story out of. Which they did as well as they could.
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Yes, in the Hobbit this issue is most apparent. There are more notable female characters in the Silmarillion, but so far Jackson didn't have any plans to film it, and Tolkien estate didn't even give anyone such rights. I wouldn't mind it though, there are a lot of epic moments there, but it would probably be quite challenging because it's not a singular storyline and fits more into series format probably.

I think Tauriel came out well, except there was no need to copy the plot from LOTR like helping with the morgul wound and so on. That felt cheap. They could be more creative and make something new after all.
 
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