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Multiplayer Thread - Competitive and/or Co-Op.

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Multiplayer Thread - Competitive and/or Co-Op.

  • PvP (COD, Battlefield etc)

    Votes: 11 6.8%
  • 4 player co-op which allows you to play with friends. (Borderlands)

    Votes: 65 40.1%
  • MMO like multiplayer with 32+ players in the world doing their own thing (GTA Online).

    Votes: 24 14.8%
  • I don't really care

    Votes: 14 8.6%
  • I don't want multiplayer in the game.

    Votes: 48 29.6%

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username_3643051

Rookie
#81
Jan 15, 2013
Wisdom000 said:
Saints row 2 and Saints row 3 co-op is a seamless integration of the single player game... Friends online can drop in and drop out at any point in the game, and you always have the choice to allow or disallow it. The only thing that keeps their co-op from being perfect, is the lack of a filter to keep people who are using cheats from joining your game, or activitating cheats within it. However when you are playing with your friends, or just cool people, there is no negative impact on your single player experience at all... there is no real downside to it. They join your game, run around with you for a while, you can choose to bring them along on the next mission, or you can choose to just keep anyoen else from joining.

This is how I want to see it implemented in Cyberpunk 2077. Seamless drop-in and drop-out, open world free roam co-operative play.
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this
 
dreambled

dreambled

Senior user
#82
Jan 15, 2013
Wisdom000 said:
Saints row 2 and Saints row 3 co-op is a seamless integration of the single player game... Friends online can drop in and drop out at any point in the game, and you always have the choice to allow or disallow it. The only thing that keeps their co-op from being perfect, is the lack of a filter to keep people who are using cheats from joining your game, or activitating cheats within it. However when you are playing with your friends, or just cool people, there is no negative impact on your single player experience at all... there is no real downside to it. They join your game, run around with you for a while, you can choose to bring them along on the next mission, or you can choose to just keep anyoen else from joining.

This is how I want to see it implemented in Cyberpunk 2077. Seamless drop-in and drop-out, open world free roam co-operative play.
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The only thing I would add to this is keeping something like notoriety separate. It boggled the mind when playing SR3 and we are both off in different areas doing our own thing and all of a sudden I have the cops or a gang chasing me. Then I start screaming, "WHAT DID YOU DO!?" and then my friend laughs at me :\

Yeah, let's keep that separate.
 
Sardukhar

Sardukhar

Moderator
#83
Jan 15, 2013
dreambled said:
The only thing I would add to this is keeping something like notoriety separate. It boggled the mind when playing SR3 and we are both off in different areas doing our own thing and all of a sudden I have the cops or a gang chasing me. Then I start screaming, "WHAT DID YOU DO!?" and then my friend laughs at me :\

Yeah, let's keep that separate.
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You're a Team! What he does, you both pay for! Makes sense to me. Also cool if you get warnings first over your radio/wireless/sniffer botnet of cop transmissions like, "Shawn Bloedell, known associates Steven Turner and Laheim O'Dooley, now wanted for questioning in..."

And then your notoriety spikes up.
 
wisdom000

wisdom000

Forum veteran
#84
Jan 15, 2013
dreambled said:
The only thing I would add to this is keeping something like notoriety separate. It boggled the mind when playing SR3 and we are both off in different areas doing our own thing and all of a sudden I have the cops or a gang chasing me. Then I start screaming, "WHAT DID YOU DO!?" and then my friend laughs at me :\

Yeah, let's keep that separate.
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agreed.... definitely.,....
 
wisdom000

wisdom000

Forum veteran
#85
Jan 15, 2013
sardukhar said:
You're a Team! What he does, you both pay for! Makes sense to me. Also cool if you get warnings first over your radio/wireless/sniffer botnet of cop transmissions like, "Shawn Bloedell, known associates Steven Turner and Laheim O'Dooley, now wanted for questioning in..."

And then your notoriety spikes up.
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That......... I could live with that... I just hate being across town, my buddy does something stupid on teh other side of the map, and suddenly swat is up my ass while all I was doing was trying to find a nice pair of boots to go with my pants...
 
Sardukhar

Sardukhar

Moderator
#86
Jan 15, 2013
Wisdom000 said:
That......... I could live with that... I just hate being across town, my buddy does something stupid on teh other side of the map, and suddenly swat is up my ass while all I was doing was trying to find a nice pair of boots to go with my pants...
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Nonsense. Like Nomads wear pants. Free-BALLING across the universe.
 
dreambled

dreambled

Senior user
#87
Jan 15, 2013
sardukhar said:
You're a Team! What he does, you both pay for! Makes sense to me. Also cool if you get warnings first over your radio/wireless/sniffer botnet of cop transmissions like, "Shawn Bloedell, known associates Steven Turner and Laheim O'Dooley, now wanted for questioning in..."

And then your notoriety spikes up.
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If I get a warning first, that would be cool, but overall, it still does not connect. If I am not involved in a crime while we are off doing our freeroam thing, do not involve me. It's like If I slapped you for something your cousin said to me. It doesn't make any sense.
 
Sardukhar

Sardukhar

Moderator
#88
Jan 15, 2013
Yeah, but you aren't my cousin - you're my teammate. We hang together, we have rep together, we are a unit. Authorities track associates of criminals for just this reason. So if he does something dumb, you get called in for questioning. Or worse, in 2020. Arasaka cops have no discernable sense of: [A]HumourProportion[C]Fashion Sense[Q]All the above. It's Q, by the way.
 
dreambled

dreambled

Senior user
#89
Jan 15, 2013
Except I'm not being hauled in for questioning. I'm being killed for something I was not involved in.
 
Sardukhar

Sardukhar

Moderator
#90
Jan 15, 2013
dreambled said:
Except I'm not being hauled in for questioning. I'm being killed for something I was not involved in.
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Yeah, that part is dumb. Unless it's Arasaka..then it's unsurprising. Utterly, totally unsurprising. Orbital Air are also seriously crazed. IE you do not mess with or even make them think you are messing with them. Militech varies, NN54 varies, and so on.

I'd have no problem if I got some warning first, in game.
 
dreambled

dreambled

Senior user
#91
Jan 15, 2013
... Agreed!
 
wisdom000

wisdom000

Forum veteran
#92
Jan 15, 2013
sardukhar said:
Nonsense. Like Nomads wear pants. Free-BALLING across the universe.
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Of course we wear pants... we just never take them off.... there is something magical about wearing leather so long that it just kind of sticks to your flesh.... just don;t be in the same state when we do take em off.... what do you think the real cause of all those bio-hazard warning on the 2020 map came from...
 
Garrison72

Garrison72

Mentor
#93
Jan 15, 2013
Either it's a co-op game or a single player game. Choose, because I have yet to see a modern RPG that does both well. To cite the PnP as a reason to make MP is ignorant of the effort that goes into PC games.
 
Sardukhar

Sardukhar

Moderator
#94
Jan 15, 2013
Glurk. I..think I'm gonna go throw up now. This right after reading ChaosWolf's superbly disturbing look at near full body cybernetics. Now I need to turn the sense of smell in my mind off please. Is there an augment for that?
 
Garrison72

Garrison72

Mentor
#95
Jan 15, 2013
sardukhar said:
Glurk. I..think I'm gonna go throw up now. This right after reading ChaosWolf's superbly disturbing look at near full body cybernetics. Now I need to turn the sense of smell in my mind off please. Is there an augment for that?
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Are you really asking me to list games that have a tacked on MP element?
 
Sardukhar

Sardukhar

Moderator
#96
Jan 15, 2013
No, slim, it's a smell thing. I'm talking to Wisdom. You posted SO FAST I didn't have time to get there. And I wasn't gonna reply with quote because otherwise I'd see that mental image of him...god DAMN it, I'm seeing it again! And smelling it!
 
wisdom000

wisdom000

Forum veteran
#97
Jan 15, 2013
sardukhar said:
No, slim, it's a smell thing. I'm talking to Wisdom. You posted SO FAST I didn't have time to get there. And I wasn't gonna reply with quote because otherwise I'd see that mental image of him...god DAMN it, I'm seeing it again! And smelling it!
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You will never watch a cyberpunk movie, superhero movie, or most especially, a post apocalypse movie, the same way again...

:p
 
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dmaple

Rookie
#98
Jan 15, 2013
slimgrin said:
Either it's a co-op game or a single player game. Choose, because I have yet to see a modern RPG that does both well. To cite the PnP as a reason to make MP is ignorant of the effort that goes into PC games.
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I'd say Mass Effect 3, where the multiplayer is essential unrelated to the single player*, but represents events going on in the same world worked well.

And Guild Wars, where the game is based on small squad multiplayer, but as a single player you had bots with pretty decent AI available to recruit before you went on a mission.

It is possible to do both, it really depends on the resources available.

*Although foolishly tied in through the galactic readiness, mechanic.
 
Terralventhe

Terralventhe

Senior user
#99
Jan 15, 2013
'Cept Galactic Readiness is meaningless and is just there to create a placebo effect to trick you into thinking what you're doing matters, so Multiplayer in ME3 is entirely unrelated to the single player experience. It was also completely unwanted. I know. I was there when they spent months constantly asking people on the forums 'So how do you guys feel about Multiplayer?' only to receive nigh-unanymous 'HELL NO' responses with a few titters of 'maybe?' here and there, only to declare 'WELLP WE LISTENED TO YOUR FEEDBACK SO HERE'S MULTIPLAYER, JUST LIKE YOU ASKED FOR!' It did not go over well.
 
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dmaple

Rookie
#100
Jan 15, 2013
Yeah except for an thing no one wanted, multiplayer seems to be one of the more loved aspects of the game, certainly more so than the single player DLC they have brought out. Even from people that don't normally like multiplayer games.

I just hope they don't miss the same trick here, just because some vocal people are against the idea of multiplayer in any form.
 
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