when are people going to learn. you do not under any circumstances purchase a bioware, ubisoft, or ea game.
Who do you think you are to tell us what games to buy? Get off your high horse.
@OP
Considering the supernatural theme of TW3. I bet it is is going to involve some form of being a saviour theme. Even TW1 did it to some degree. Besides, there has been a strong connection between Geralt and the Wild Hunt since the first game (dunno about the books) which means that he is very likely to the the solution to the problem (or at least a very important part of it). Saviour and Chosen One themes are not bad themselves. The Gothic series handled the trope wonderfully.
I do not even think you truly believe saviour themes are actually bad. The problem most people have with this theme is that the market is over-saturated with it but that doesn't make the theme itself bad. This is why variety is important in the industry. I for one do not want every RPG to become a Witcher clone, it would get old fast and people would hate this kind of game in the end. Do you want that?
If they handle the theme like they did in TW it will be fine. I for one am more concerned about how good the characters will be, whether chosing to make the game open world was a mistake or not and ESPECIALLY how important decisions from TW2 will be. In TW2 . Decisions from TW1 were not important at ALL, it's like the game never existed or that the neutral path was the canon one. Not to mention the fact that they left out Shani and turned Triss into a bimbo. The only important thing was that the assassins tried to kill Foltest. Why people didn't notice these things is puzzling. I think there are much more important things to worry about.
P.S Diablo3 was not that bad and Mass Effect 3 had its moments...like Primarch Victus and Javik. There is no need to join the bandwagon just to prove your good taste. This kind of attitude gives games a bad name.
I think that you are exagerating but I understand your view to the point.
On the other hand my biggest fear for Witcher 3 is that they will cut.CUT CUT CUT CUT CUT.And maybe it doesn't seem so and maybe they won't but what I hate the most about devs (Rockstar,Bethesda etc.) is cutting.CUT,CUT,CUT.Stupid marketing department in Bethesda (Pete Tweet Douchebag Hines) thinks vehicles in Fallout 3 won't sell.The solution is: CUUUUUUUUUUUUUUT.
Please,please CD Projekt.Do not cut awesome features.One of the best games of my childhood (GTA:San Andreas) which is so much more content and feature wise richer than last two games from Rockstar had huuuuuuuge list of cuts.It was supposed to be probably the best game ever but then investors didn't want to afford additional expenses like filling 2 dvds.Instead they went with only one sooooooo Rockstar had to CUUUUUUUUUUUUUT.
http://www.grandtheftwiki.com/Content_Changes_in_GTA_San_Andreas
Whole island with prison on it,Big Foot,bunch of side missions,bunch of weapons,bunch of mechanics,bunch of vehicles,bunch of pretty GOD DAMN EVERYTHING got cut.And until I found out I though San Andreas was soooooo content rich.And it is,it's just that it could have been soooooo much better game.One of my dreams is to buy Rockstar and force them to give me uncut version of San Andreas. lol Also there was that little incident with hidden hot coffe thingy which they removed with one and only patch San Andreas received.Sad.
Now don't get me wrong.In order for feature to be in the game it needs to:
1.Have meaning
2.Be usefull
3.Be fun to use
4.Make sense for a charcter or AI
5.Not be overpowered
And the problem is that most of the time stupid stupid stupid PR department,marketing teams and investors who know next to nothing about games are being led with this absurd logic (if you don't believe me how much idiotic they can be then read this article which pretty much explains why Rome 2 sucked and still sucks http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/169354/how_creative_assemblys_process_.php?print=1):
PR dude/Marketing guru/Investor who knows nothing about games: Hey why should we sell them x amount of features although they are all flashed out.Let's cut some of them so that 12 year old boys won't get confused and also we will then be selling less content for the same price.We could then put that back (Dawnguard/crossbows for example) in a dlc or not put at all.
Oh my God.....First thing what they don't get that as long as it's of high quality the more is always better than cutting perfectly reasonable features.It's not like you are selling people wood and by selling less for same price you earn more.And they really think like this.The more fun and meaningfull features game has - the better.
So please please CD Project......do not cut.And if you have in order to make deadline then after realese tell us openly what didn't make the game and what you think could be put in it and have meaning.And if so happens that fans react positively (and they always fucking dooooo...somehow always the most awesome things get cut) please implement them via patch or paid dlc, I don't care.
Also if anyone thought that GTA V was feeling somehow shallow and lacked features, then you were right.Behold:
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/rockstar-had-huge-volume-of-plans-and-ideas-for-gta-5-that-didn-t-make-the-cut/1100-6416916/
Please devs if you could answer to this I would be thrilled.Sorry if this came as rant cause I really like you guys.You,guys like Obsidian,guys behind Star Citizen and newly crow-funded Kingdom Come (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1294225970/kingdom-come-deliverance),Tale World,Paradox and others are proof that when you are independent you can make 2 awesome things in gaming industry:
1.Make games you and gamers like (from the gamers,by the gamers,for the gamers lol)
2.Earn tons of cash.
You maybe won't earn a billion after first week (but who knows) but even if you did 98% would go to people who had nothing to do with a game.
So please.Do not content and feature butcher Witcher 3.I really hope you won't.It doesnt seem so for now,but who knows.
On the other hand my biggest fear for Witcher 3 is that they will cut.CUT CUT CUT CUT CUT.And maybe it doesn't seem so and maybe they won't but what I hate the most about devs (Rockstar,Bethesda etc.) is cutting.CUT,CUT,CUT.Stupid marketing department in Bethesda (Pete Tweet Douchebag Hines) thinks vehicles in Fallout 3 won't sell.The solution is: CUUUUUUUUUUUUUUT.
Please,please CD Projekt.Do not cut awesome features.One of the best games of my childhood (GTA:San Andreas) which is so much more content and feature wise richer than last two games from Rockstar had huuuuuuuge list of cuts.It was supposed to be probably the best game ever but then investors didn't want to afford additional expenses like filling 2 dvds.Instead they went with only one sooooooo Rockstar had to CUUUUUUUUUUUUUT.
http://www.grandtheftwiki.com/Content_Changes_in_GTA_San_Andreas
Whole island with prison on it,Big Foot,bunch of side missions,bunch of weapons,bunch of mechanics,bunch of vehicles,bunch of pretty GOD DAMN EVERYTHING got cut.And until I found out I though San Andreas was soooooo content rich.And it is,it's just that it could have been soooooo much better game.One of my dreams is to buy Rockstar and force them to give me uncut version of San Andreas. lol Also there was that little incident with hidden hot coffe thingy which they removed with one and only patch San Andreas received.Sad.
Now don't get me wrong.In order for feature to be in the game it needs to:
1.Have meaning
2.Be usefull
3.Be fun to use
4.Make sense for a charcter or AI
5.Not be overpowered
And the problem is that most of the time stupid stupid stupid PR department,marketing teams and investors who know next to nothing about games are being led with this absurd logic (if you don't believe me how much idiotic they can be then read this article which pretty much explains why Rome 2 sucked and still sucks http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/169354/how_creative_assemblys_process_.php?print=1):
PR dude/Marketing guru/Investor who knows nothing about games: Hey why should we sell them x amount of features although they are all flashed out.Let's cut some of them so that 12 year old boys won't get confused and also we will then be selling less content for the same price.We could then put that back (Dawnguard/crossbows for example) in a dlc or not put at all.
Oh my God.....First thing what they don't get that as long as it's of high quality the more is always better than cutting perfectly reasonable features.It's not like you are selling people wood and by selling less for same price you earn more.And they really think like this.The more fun and meaningfull features game has - the better.
So please please CD Project......do not cut.And if you have in order to make deadline then after realese tell us openly what didn't make the game and what you think could be put in it and have meaning.And if so happens that fans react positively (and they always fucking dooooo...somehow always the most awesome things get cut) please implement them via patch or paid dlc, I don't care.
Also if anyone thought that GTA V was feeling somehow shallow and lacked features, then you were right.Behold:
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/rockstar-had-huge-volume-of-plans-and-ideas-for-gta-5-that-didn-t-make-the-cut/1100-6416916/
Please devs if you could answer to this I would be thrilled.Sorry if this came as rant cause I really like you guys.You,guys like Obsidian,guys behind Star Citizen and newly crow-funded Kingdom Come (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1294225970/kingdom-come-deliverance),Tale World,Paradox and others are proof that when you are independent you can make 2 awesome things in gaming industry:
1.Make games you and gamers like (from the gamers,by the gamers,for the gamers lol)
2.Earn tons of cash.
You maybe won't earn a billion after first week (but who knows
) but even if you did 98% would go to people who had nothing to do with a game.So please.Do not content and feature butcher Witcher 3.I really hope you won't.It doesnt seem so for now,but who knows.
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Cuts are done for a reason. Often it is because games cost very much to make and they have to break even and make a profit. The more time you spend, the riskier it becomes. Only companies like Blizzard and Valve have the luxury of developing a game for more than 4 years. CDPR also cut an entire chapter according to one of the recent interviews.
Well you obviously didn't read my post.
I completely understand need and urge for cutting something which either doesn't make sense or you need to reach deadline.That's not problem and it would've been really awesome if once game is released CD Projekt could put out dev diaries like making of Witcher 3 and in them for example mention what didn't make it but is possibly cool,has meaning,would be usefull etc.
Also my biggest problem is not with half-finished features or features too complex and costly to develop (btw. it's 2014 and there is hardly anything too complex to make it's just matter of balancing and making stuff interesting).NOOOOOOO.You see that's the problem.San Andreas,Oblivion,Skyrim (it had whole god damn arena in Windhelm and there are so many left overs that it's stuggering and do not tell me that an arena wouldn't be appropriate for land of war-loving fighting-crazy Nords),GTA V and others didn't lose features they might have had.NO!
The features (for example simple one:car washers and shoplifting for San Andreas among tons of others) which got cut were there.They were finished and integrated into game.But some PR or marketing guru in his moment of stupidity said: Hell,why should we fill two dvds when we can save on money and fill only one.What he didn't get is that they would have lost a little bit of money but in the end they would earn more because they game would benefit from those features and be attractive to even more people.
Of course today in the age of steam and PS Store and digital downloads that's no longer an issue but still Rockstar for example refuses to release uncut version for the 10 year anniversary of San Andreas.And it would sell like hell for all the nostalgie,litlle bit improved graphics and new never seen features.Why they refuse ? Reasoooooons -.- (said with mr.Torgue's voice)
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You're ignorant individual. I'll gladly purchase any future Bioware or Ubisoft game.
Dragon Age & Mass Effect franchise. Sapienti Sat.
It will be all that plus Geralt will hold his swords in reverse grip MUHUHUAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Considering how awesome Assassin's Creed IV was, I'm glad I purchased it. Twice.
And? What others like concerns you, how?
Oh, and if I'm to infer anything from your post, you haven't been purchasing any Ubisoft game in quite some time. So, in other words, you have absolutely no clue as to what you're talking about.
If there is a logical reason and proff, I would advise him not getting out of a high horse. Logic dictates that you should never preorder then game, then dictates to look at the history of the given publisher.
If you purchase an EA game, with the preoreder, than I say you are a damn fool, based on the basic logical look at what they do.
If you purchase an Assassin's Creed game without looking at anything and expecting innovation, you're a damn fool too.
What do you have here, with Ubisoft ( and Activision ) is basic cowardice. Doing SSDD works for profit - why change it. I don't blame them, there are ppl that like and buy their games, but at this stage I have hard time to take these ppl seriously.
EA does whatever they can get away with, microtransactions, rushing games, etc. And because of said fools, they won't change. They make profit and couldn't care less about customers, not matter what they seem to do.
Both D3 and Me3 were bad, that's just my opinion, but I suppose I have high expectations. And I have a damn right to have them, as a bloody customer.
Sorry, not bad, unspeakably terrible and I was a fool to buy them in a first place. I've learned my lesson.
What is immorally great about CDPR is that, I am afraid/happy to say they are against the wall. If they screw Witcher 3 hard ( and let's hope it won't happen ) they are done. Witcher is their only game series, and despite having CP2077 on the way, I think a blow of W3 not being recieved well by fans will be basically too much.
So it's kinda scary but also good. I hope they can work well under pressure, cause sure as hell they have a lot of it.
This is not about preordering, this is about BUYING a game which could mean could be a preorder but not necessarily.
As for Ubisoft, sure, Assassin's Creed is getting stale but we have Watch Dogs to look forward to.
I have high expectations too but I have learned to not get ballistic about it and try to look for what's GOOD in the game because you know, I paid for it. In case of Diablo 3 it's Act 3 (the most diablo-esque) and in the case of Mass Effect 3 it was the art style, the great shooting, Primarch Victus, more Garrus, more Legion. They did not reach my expectations but there were things I liked or really liked in them.
In the end it is really simple, if a game does something you do not approve of, do not buy it and tell yours friends not to buy it either if they have the same preferences.
That said, I always find it strange that so many people buy a game without doing proper research and then end up complaining how it is a failure. Unless you have absolute faith in the series/developer pre-ordering is very dangerous and unwise.
That said, I always find it strange that so many people buy a game without doing proper research and then end up complaining how it is a failure. Unless you have absolute faith in the series/developer pre-ordering is very dangerous and unwise.
Aliens: Colonial Marines is proof of your claims. The only games I would preorder are CDPR games, BioWare games, Id Software, Blizzard games and Valve games. In case of BioWare, I have lately been skeptical of them but I still believe in them. When a 60 dollar game is involved, I always make thorough research by reading critic and user reviews and then making my own opinion of it.
While I find critic reviews to be not entirely trustworthy, user reviews can be equally bad in different ways. For instance, there are a LOT of people on Metacritic that give a game ZERO even if they LIKED something about a game. If a game is fully functional from start to finish, without major bugs it should get at least a 5 and if there is SOMETHING you like about it, a bit more but not a fucking zero. I facepalm everytime I see "the game has good graphics, interesting art style" and gives it a ZERO.
While I find critic reviews to be not entirely trustworthy, user reviews can be equally bad in different ways. For instance, there are a LOT of people on Metacritic that give a game ZERO even if they LIKED something about a game. If a game is fully functional from start to finish, without major bugs it should get at least a 5 and if there is SOMETHING you like about it, a bit more but not a fucking zero. I facepalm everytime I see "the game has good graphics, interesting art style" and gives it a ZERO.
Aliens is a very sad example of people pre-ordering and not getting what they hoped for. It is not that the game does not work but it is not really the Alien classic the dev promised (to put it lightly). I never really pre-order games anymore, I might make TW3 an exception, though even that is unsure. With broken releases like BF4 it is rewarding to do your research and wait if the launch blows up in some way.
Also yeah, reviews are very much hit or miss these days. Fan reviews are often statements with very low scores to make a point about something that does not work or there being dlc.
Also yeah, reviews are very much hit or miss these days. Fan reviews are often statements with very low scores to make a point about something that does not work or there being dlc.
If they lower the score to make a point, then the fan review is hardly credible. Which is why I use both critic and fan reviews to make my OWN opinion. Just because it's a fan review doesn't mean it is honest.
Surely you can figure this one out?
Honestly these days, when you can hardly trust any Publishers/Developers, Game Journalists are all (Yes, ALL of them) complete morons & VERY few games actually offer God Damn Demos, I can completely understand alot of people doing it.