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My Understanding of the Plot: How wrong am I? *TW2/Book spoilers*

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carcanclaw.71

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Jun 16, 2014
My Understanding of the Plot: How wrong am I? *TW2/Book spoilers*

So I've played both Witcher games and read as many of the relevant stories as I could find, but the lore here is as dense as it is compelling. Here's my boneheaded and shallow understanding of the core plot going into TW3, please clarify what I've got wrong!

Geralt is searching for Ciri, who is a bit like a daughter to him, in the sense that she's a woman he actually doesn't want to have sex with. He trained her witcher-style, but she was never given the mutations needed to become a true witcher, because it would ruin her boobs or something. Finding her is his core driving force in TW3.

Unfortunately, Ciri is being pursued by the Wild Hunt. The Hunt's leader, Eredin the Spooky Space Elf, wanted Ciri in order to knock her up, which would somehow give him even cooler glowy-blue superpowers. Ciri was actually keen on the idea at first, but then realized that Eredin, like all snooty intergalactic elven overlords, was a jerk and beat him up before escaping his realm. As you might imagine, getting your poop pushed in by a normal human woman is pretty infuriating for a guy who wears overcompensating Super-Skeletor armor, so Eredin decides to chase her down and force her to... fondle his plums... or whatever.

Meanwhile, Nilfgaard, presumably incensed by the fact that people keep forgetting to add in the extra "a" when writing their country's name, decides to invade the rest of the world. Because rulers in The Witcher are generally total morons (except Radovid and Saskia, they seem alright), Nilfgaard steamrolls everyone in their way and takes over everything. Also, their Emperor knows Geralt somehow.

After reuniting with Triss and Yennefer, two totally trustworthy sorceresses who definitely won't push Geralt into a dangerous love triangle where the loser turns traitor, the Witcher sets out to snag Ciri and put an end to the Girls Gone Wild Hunt's zany cosmic sex trafficking ring. Also Ciri should be the next game's protagonist, basically being FemGeralt without the whole mutant thing.

So I'm basically 10/10 A++ in my summary here, right?
 
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vivaxardas2015

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Jun 16, 2014
Yep, you basically gave a CliffsNotes version of the saga. Ciri as our next protagonist is a pure fantasy, though, but what else is left for us to fantasize about?
 
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Sardukhar

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Jun 16, 2014
carcanclaw said:
in the sense that she's a woman he actually doesn't want to have sex with.
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A-mazing.

Bonus points for plums.
 
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Cyber_Death

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Jun 16, 2014
carcanclaw said:
Unfortunately, Ciri is being pursued by the Wild Hunt. The Hunt's leader, Eredin the Spooky Space Elf, wanted Ciri in order to knock her up, which would somehow give him even cooler glowy-blue superpowers. Ciri was actually keen on the idea at first......
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That was her chance to earn some bragging rights:

Geralt:"Hey. there."
Ciri: "Hey, you look refreshed. What happened?"
Geralt: "Sure, I guess you could say that. I had some extensive quality time with three young virgins today. I convinced all three to retire."
Ciri: *Yawns*
Geralt: "Not impressed?"
Ciri: "I had some extensive quality time with the Wild Hunt. I convinced him to pay child support."
Geralt: O____O
 
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dakondakblade

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Jun 16, 2014
Cyber Death said:
That was her chance to earn some bragging rights:

Geralt:"Hey. there."
Ciri: "Hey, you look refreshed. What happened?"
Geralt: "Sure, I guess you could say that. I had some extensive quality time with three young virgins today. I convinced all three to retire."
Ciri: *Yawns*
Geralt: "Not impressed?"
Ciri: "I had some extensive quality time with the Wild Hunt. I convinced him to pay child support."
Geralt: O____O
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This is awesome haha.
 
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Lanaya

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Jun 16, 2014
Isnt the Emperor, Ciri's true father?

Also, doesn't Ciri posses interdimentional powers? she may not be a full witcher but a half/mage?

If Ciri doesnt die in this epilouge she could be a viable character to continue the adventure on. For example, where was all along during the entire series? that could on its own be an interesting story.
 
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charleswang95

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Jun 16, 2014
It makes me sad knowing that this will be the last entry for our Witcher from Rivia :( Great summary though :)
 
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GuyNwah

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Jun 16, 2014
Yes, Ciri is the daughter of the Emperor, given to Geralt (according to the Law of Surprise) after he had cured the then-exiled knight of a lifetime of bad hair days.

She's also the last known carrier of Elder Blood, making her and eventually her child the bearer of Ithlinne's Prophecy. Humans and dwarves think this is a trough of hogwash, but the elves take it seriously. She was ready to give it up for Eredin's predecessor, Auberon Muircetach, but he couldn't get it up for her, and an aphrodisiac Eredin made for him turned out as badly as the warning label on Viagra. She didn't fancy Eredin, to the point of beating him up on her way out.
 
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iastfan112

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Jun 16, 2014
Even if Geralt chooses Yennefer over Triss, I don't see Triss turning traitor, just doesn't fit the character that has been built up over the course of the books and first two games.
 
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carcanclaw.71

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Jun 16, 2014
Mvc9 said:
Isnt the Emperor, Ciri's true father?
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Yep, and he also wants to bang her for somewhat nefarious purposes. This is what makes me think that Ciri vs Emhyr is a perfect place for the series to go after Geralt's business with the Hunt is concluded.

Iastfan112 said:
Even if Geralt chooses Yennefer over Triss, I don't see Triss turning traitor, just doesn't fit the character that has been built up over the course of the books and first two games.
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I guess "traitor" is a bit too harsh. I do think that either of them could do some reckless things as a response to being rejected, even if it isn't meant maliciously. And I still don't trust either of them. Triss has a lot of secrets and, while her love of Geralt is sincere, the fact that she becomes defensive so quickly when Geralt confronts her about anything shady is concerning.
 
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StaGiors

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Jun 16, 2014
carcanclaw said:
Yep, and he also wants to bang her for somewhat nefarious purposes. This is what makes me think that Ciri vs Emhyr is a perfect place for the series to go after Geralt's business with the Hunt is concluded.
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That is not quite right. Emhyr gave up trying to "marry" Ciri. He could still want her in the Throne though, replacing the fake Ciri. Either way the Emreis dynasty died with Emhyr. I don't believe he had any kids.
 
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Scholdarr

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Jun 16, 2014
Because rulers in The Witcher are generally total morons (except Radovid and Saskia, they seem alright), Nilfgaard steamrolls everyone in their way and takes over everything. Also, their Emperor knows Geralt somehow.
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The kings of the northern kingdoms are not all morons. They actually won against Nilfgaard in the last big war...but Letho and his Witcher-assassins of course cruciably weakened the southern countries of the northern kingdoms, Temeria and Aedirn, by killing their kings...

The problem with Ciri and the Nilfgaardian Empire is that they put an impostor on the trone of Cintra instead of Ciri. Actually, Emhyr never really wanted to "bang" her, he just wanted to prevent the prophey and so - in his understanding - it would have been the best way to make the saviour of the world the emperor of Nilfgaard. But he coudn't do it as Ciri's father so he left her behind. Geralt and the emperor knew each other quite well, yeah, you could say that... ;)


@Guy N'wah
Emhyr - as a human - believes in the prophecy as well.


Mvc9 said:
Also, doesn't Ciri posses interdimentional powers?
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Yeah she has the power to travel to time and different universes but in the books she couldn't fully control her power.
 

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andersonblue

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Jun 16, 2014
How is Ciri the Emperor's daughter again? I thought it was some guy who turned into a hairy beast, with her mother being daughter of that queen. It was a long time I read the last wish, I remember the banquet hall and the guards trying to kill the 'beast'.
 
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StaGiors

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Jun 16, 2014
AndersonBLUE said:
How is Ciri the Emperor's daughter again? I thought it was some guy who turned into a hairy beast, with her mother being daughter of that queen. It was a long time I read the last wish, I remember the banquet hall and the guards trying to kill the 'beast'.
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Pavetta, the Queen's daughter was pregnant at the time. By that hairy monster no doubt. She gave birth to a daughter, who she named Ciri. That's our Ciri.

Watch out, if you haven't read all the books. Do not click if you have not.
That hairy monster's name was Duny. Emhyr's "nickname" was Duny. If you have't read all the books, this info right here is a major spoiler.
 
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andersonblue

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Jun 16, 2014
StaGiors said:
Pavetta, the Queen's daughter was pregnant at the time. By that hairy monster no doubt. She gave birth to a daughter, who she named Ciri. That's our Ciri.

Watch out, if you haven't read all the books. Do not click if you have not.
That hairy monster's name was Duny. Emhyr's "nickname" was Duny. If you have't read all the books, this info right here is a major spoiler.
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Thanks! Blimey he rose to the top quickly did he not?
 
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StaGiors

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Jun 16, 2014
AndersonBLUE said:
Thanks! Blimey he rose to the top quickly did he not?
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Since you read that spoiler tag, he was the son of the former emperor of Nilfgaard, but due to his curse he couldn't claim the throne. Since Geralt lifted the curse, he returned and became Emperor. Quite spectacularly I might add.
 
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Scholdarr

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Jun 16, 2014
AndersonBLUE said:
Thanks! Blimey he rose to the top quickly did he not?
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Actually not. He was exiled and cursed after a coup d'etat and returned after things had changed again in Nilfgaard and after he arranged his "disappear" in Cintra. ;)
 
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andersonblue

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Jun 16, 2014
StaGiors said:
Since you read that spoiler tag, he was the son of the former emperor of Nilfgaard, but due to his curse he couldn't claim the throne. Since Geralt lifted the curse, he returned and became Emperor. Quite spectacularly I might add.
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So he owes Geralt a massive favor then. Is he the traitorous type? Like would he stab Geralt in the back if it suited him?
 
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teh_beard

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#19
Jun 16, 2014
And he fed those who chased him with hounds from Nilfgaard to the dogs.
Ah, Emhyr. Thats why we like you!
 
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StaGiors

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Jun 16, 2014
AndersonBLUE said:
So he owes Geralt a massive favor then. Is he the traitorous type? Like would he stab Geralt in the back if it suited him?
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Well, I would say that he wouldn't, taking into consideration the way he punishes traitors. He is also a "good" guy deep down. I think.
 
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