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toudis815

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#41
Apr 5, 2016
DontBlnkBadWolf said:
lso, Sapkowski (supposedly) is currently writing another book set in the witcher universe.
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If he's writing another witcher it won't be a continuation. He said thousands of times that story is done. If there'll be a new novel it will be probalby something like season of storms - sidequel
 
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DontBlnkBadWolf

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#42
Apr 5, 2016
toudis815 said:
If he's writing another witcher it won't be a continuation. He said thousands of times that story is done. If there'll be a new novel it will be probalby something like season of storms - sidequel
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And that's what I thought as well. Besides other posts and interviews, I don't see anything saying that he was going to continue with Gerallt. And Season of Storms is what I am meaning. I did not know it was already released since I have see nothing about it being in english yet. Now that I see that is already out, it'll be a few years that it will be available in english. They have released The Lady of the Lake in english yet.

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jj284b said:
BadWolf: did you at least try choosing Yen in games?
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Yes, before I read the books. Didn't like it then. Now, I don't play the game much since reading the books. In another post on this thread I explain why I have kinda given up on the game.

F4ITH said:
Well, I don't believe they are dead. I believe that they
live happily in Avalon.
One beautiful moment in this book gave me confidence that this option is right.



Source?
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http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-11-06-ever-wondered-what-the-author-of-the-witcher-books-thinks-about-the-games From Eurogamer July 2012.

http://witcher.wikia.com/wiki/Sezon_Burz Seasons of Storms link. Not translated to english that I know of. If you notice, it does have to deal with Geralt. Only this time, it is set before the first Nilfgaardian war.

jj284b said:
F4ITH: i think he meant Season of Storms
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Yep, that I was

BadWolf
 
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VikingStudios

VikingStudios

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#43
Apr 6, 2016
DontBlnkBadWolf said:
A couple of things. It is assumed that Geralt & Yennefer are dead, but we do not know that for sure as it was never made clear that they are dead. Also, Sapkowski (supposedly) is currently writing another book set in the witcher universe. But it is not clear on if it is about Geralt. We all know that Sapkowski doesn't play games & stated that the franchise that CDPR made is not cannon to the witcher world, so I don't know if the reason he is writing again is because of the book readers wanting to know the fate of Geralt, or is it because of the world wide popularity that was gained because of both the readers & the gamers. Maybe he is writing it because it will be a final act for the universe to be released after the 3rd expansion, so that way this game ends without anything else being made in game format. But that is just speculation on my part, but it make sense in a way.

​BadWolf
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Yeah sure there is some space for interpretation but as far as I know Sapkowski said that Geralts Story ends for him with 'Lady of the Lake' and that there will only be stories that play before that.
I'm not sure if he had never the intention to continue or just respects the games and CDPRs story.
For me it somehow looks that he liked the first game but as it got that much attention he somehow disliked the fact that "his" story got that famous because of the games. He was involved in the first game but not in the others. Also in the older interviews he was somehow more enthusiastic about the game. In interviews since TW2 he sounds more reserved like "they did a good job", just beeing polite and that he doesn't really care about the games.

jj284b said:
...while whole Alvin plot was a bit against the lore, as it was established only women with Lara gene were refered as Elder blood, and were therefore Ladies of time and space. Males with the gene were usually either with suppressed powers or ended up being mad.
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But Alvin ended getting mad, so this seems to fit.

jj284b said:
I'm not saying story of Wicher 3 is completely perfect. I would rather see slightly toned down version, as the third Northern war was a bit too fatalistic, with almost all kingdoms destroyed/occupied (which has no background in book canon) etc..
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How the war ended also bothered me pretty much. Especially that Temeria somehow disappeared although Anais was rescued in TW2.
But I won't say that there is no clue about a strong empire in the books. In 'Lady of the Lake' there are this small texts at the beginning of each chapter. Their content is dated somewhere in the future and almost every of them take place in the empire. Also the two ladies in the tower gathering information about Ciri and leading her way at the end also take place in the empire.
 
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jj284b

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#44
Apr 6, 2016
they were described getting mad, but not single one had ability to travel between worlds...
 
VikingStudios

VikingStudios

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#45
Apr 6, 2016
Yeah that's true. I didn't pay enough attention at the first play through so I didn't got that Alvin = de Aldersberg. The whole character was not that good.
 
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DontBlnkBadWolf

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#46
Apr 6, 2016
VikingStudios said:
Yeah sure there is some space for interpretation but as far as I know Sapkowski said that Geralts Story ends for him with 'Lady of the Lake
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Exactly, that's the point I was trying to make. Geralt's story is done. Sapkowski only said that. So it is up for the reader to decide on their own. I believe Sapkowski won't write another one after those events, but all we can do is hope that one day he may choose to do so.

As for CDPR, they may make another one, with or without Geralt. Or not another Witcher game at all. This one was So ambitious that they over shot their mark & made some mistakes (discussed in length on other threads, but not on this one please) so they may abandon it all together & take their company in a different direction.

So, in my closing statement I'm going to say that Geralt is not dead but for now living peacefully with Yennefer.
 
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DziejopisWawel

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#47
Apr 6, 2016
DontBlnkBadWolf said:

So, in my closing statement I'm going to say that Geralt is not dead but for now living peacefully with Yennefer.
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Sapkowski wrote a special ending for these who were depressed after Geralt death in which Geralt Yennefer and Ciri live together and happy. So it can be legit
 
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toudis815

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#48
Apr 6, 2016
DziejopisWawel said:
Sapkowski wrote a special ending for these who were depressed after Geralt death in which Geralt Yennefer and Ciri live together and happy. So it can be legit
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:D he wrote it even 7 years before actual ending knowing how people' ll be depressed after Lady of the Lake
 
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cirdanx

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#49
Apr 6, 2016
DziejopisWawel said:
Sapkowski wrote a special ending for these who were depressed after Geralt death in which Geralt Yennefer and Ciri live together and happy. So it can be legit
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In the book, he said this happy end story is a joke and he considers it a joke. However he made it pretty clear that Geralt is not dead in the past, you can even find this on the CE disc of the first game.

If he writes a new book, i will say, i hope it has actually more to do with the witcher than season of storms. Despite the fun "joke" story, it was rather disappointing to me and had not much to do with the Witcher series. Though this might be a publisher issue, as it was clearly marketed to Witcher fans where i live.
 
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DontBlnkBadWolf

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#50
Apr 7, 2016
DziejopisWawel said:
Sapkowski wrote a special ending for these who were depressed after Geralt death in which Geralt Yennefer and Ciri live together and happy. So it can be legit
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toudis815 said:
:D he wrote it even 7 years before actual ending knowing how people' ll be depressed after Lady of the Lake
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Oh really? This I did not know. Any clue on where I might find this?


cirdanx said:
In the book, he said this happy end story is a joke and he considers it a joke. However he made it pretty clear that Geralt is not dead in the past, you can even find this on the CE disc of the first game.

If he writes a new book, i will say, i hope it has actually more to do with the witcher than season of storms. Despite the fun "joke" story, it was rather disappointing to me and had not much to do with the Witcher series. Though this might be a publisher issue, as it was clearly marketed to Witcher fans where i live.
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What ending is Sapkowski referring to? I have not read "Season of Storms" so I do not know what it is like. Does anyone know if a fan translated version is out there yet? That is how I had to read the last 2 books. And since this one was published in the last couple of years, it will not be in English form for God knows how long.

BadWolf
 
VikingStudios

VikingStudios

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#51
Apr 7, 2016
DziejopisWawel said:
Sapkowski wrote a special ending for these who were depressed after Geralt death in which Geralt Yennefer and Ciri live together and happy. So it can be legit
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Do you mean the short story where Geralt wants to merry Yen in that castle?
 
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sv3672

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#52
Apr 7, 2016
DontBlnkBadWolf said:

Oh really? This I did not know. Any clue on where I might find this?
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Perhaps it is this short story ? There is also a link to an unofficial translation on the same page.
 
ooodrin

ooodrin

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#53
Apr 7, 2016
DontBlnkBadWolf said:

Oh really? This I did not know. Any clue on where I might find this?




What ending is Sapkowski referring to? I have not read "Season of Storms" so I do not know what it is like. Does anyone know if a fan translated version is out there yet? That is how I had to read the last 2 books. And since this one was published in the last couple of years, it will not be in English form for God knows how long.

BadWolf
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Here is the link to the thread where you can find fan translations to all the books, Season of Storms and Something ends, Something begins included :)

http://forums.cdprojektred.com/threads/16494-Our-Community-Fan-Translations
 
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toudis815

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#54
Apr 7, 2016
DontBlnkBadWolf said:
Oh really? This I did not know. Any clue on where I might find this?
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here: https://pl.scribd.com/doc/229734254/Something-Ends-Something-Begins-Sapkowski

he wrote it in 1992 as a wedding gift for his friends (polish fantasy journalists Paweł Ziemkiewicz and Paulina Breitner). It's completely non - canon and as Sapkowski said himself cannot be considered as an alternative ending but still fun to read
 
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cirdanx

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#55
Apr 7, 2016
toudis815 said:
here: https://pl.scribd.com/doc/229734254/Something-Ends-Something-Begins-Sapkowski

he wrote it in 1992 as a gift for a wedding his friends (polish fantasy journalists Paweł Ziemkiewicz and Paulina Breitner). It's completely non - canon and as Sapkowski said himself cannot be considered as an alternative ending but still fun to read
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Yes, that´s how the story came to be. I really enjoyed it, it was a very fun read. Just wish the rest of the book would have more to do with the Witcher series, however i learned from it that i have actually something in common with him...the undying love for cats lol

DontBlnkBadWolf said:
What ending is Sapkowski referring to? I have not read "Season of Storms" so I do not know what it is like. Does anyone know if a fan translated version is out there yet? That is how I had to read the last 2 books. And since this one was published in the last couple of years, it will not be in English form for God knows how long.
BadWolf
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Well someone else already posted the link, i´m just really surprised that there is no english version o_O
 
VikingStudios

VikingStudios

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#56
Apr 8, 2016
cirdanx said:
Well someone else already posted the link, i´m just really surprised that there is no english version o_O
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Thank god that there is a German version.
 
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jj284b

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#57
Apr 8, 2016
VikingStudios said:
Do you mean the short story where Geralt wants to merry Yen in that castle?
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no, actually, ending of Season of Storms - epilogue has Nimue travel through the woods, being saved by Geralt who was hunting down those genetically engineered arachnomorphs made by Rissberg mages in 1245.. And while when asked, he said Geralt is dead for 105 years already, (Nimue said it was 1373, -105 = 1268 which is year of Rivia Masacre) its kinda obvious he wanted to stay incognito.. Technically speaking, Vesemir was hundred years old when he got Geralt from his mother, so in 1373, Geralt would be probably as old as Vesemir was in games timeline (1268-72)
 
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cirdanx

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#58
Apr 8, 2016
VikingStudios said:
Thank god that there is a German version.
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Yes, that´s why i thought it must have an english version too. I guess it´s really true that his work got snubbed quite hard because he is a polish author, which is just a shame.
 
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toudis815

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#59
Apr 8, 2016
cirdanx said:
Yes, that´s why i thought it must have an english version too. I guess it´s really true that his work got snubbed quite hard because he is a polish author, which is just a shame.
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[video=YouTube;rlz94ZCAVqY?t=5m7s]https://youtu.be/rlz94ZCAVqY?t=5m7s[/video]

5:08: "when I approached anglosaxon publishers, they told me: "You know, we would like when the Hottentos write about the zebras and Eskimos about the penguins, but you're Polish so write about Lech Wałęsa and fuck off!"
 
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DontBlnkBadWolf

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Apr 14, 2016
cirdanx said:
Yes, that´s why i thought it must have an english version too. I guess it´s really true that his work got snubbed quite hard because he is a polish author, which is just a shame.
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Actually, it's not a snub, it's the publisher, Orbit. They are dragging it out, I am assuming, to garner pre-ordering to make more cash. From what I am led to believe, "Lady of the Lake" will not be released in America until Dec. 2016, so that will push "Season of Storms" back around mid to late 2017. That I do know is the release date for it, sometime in 2017. So 5 freakin' years after the initial release. Considering that it took 18 years for "Baptism of Fire" to be translated, I shouldn't complain. But come on, if the fans can do it quicker than Orbit.........UGH!

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