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videopete

videopete

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#21
Jan 28, 2013
kingbrendarr said:
See this is where I want to draw my line. While I am all for a fully emersive net that I can spends hours on while my meatbag begs for food and water. I want an augmented option as well. The Wireless word is a reality in the now and I want to be able to walk down the street while doing my light work have email and social media pop up on my HUD that is in my glasses or eyes depending on the outfit I am wearing. I want to be able to have that intermediate without having to use something as out dated as picture and picture.
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Its a safety issue, that's why you cant walk and net run at the same time. By 2077 you might have semi autonomous programs do some of the work for you.
 
kingbrendarr

kingbrendarr

Senior user
#22
Jan 28, 2013
Forgive me if I seem a bit demanding. It should be a baseline feature not a software upgrade or application.
I am ok with needing to plug into a "node" for serious connection speeds and stealth but that is for specialized work and not quality of life.
 
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jebrick

Rookie
#23
Jan 28, 2013
I could see a Net like SnowCrash for somethings but a more wireframe set for hacking. I think the Netrunning from the 2020 game is almost a game within a game. I thought the NetRunner card game worked out well to handle a run against an entity like a corporation or business.
 
Sardukhar

Sardukhar

Moderator
#24
Jan 28, 2013
I think we should absolutely have an immersive, VR overlay of the Net that you navigate. I also think that when a Netrunner "hacks" in, it should be that only much more immersive, more icons, patrolling and vicious ICE, etc.
 
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volsung

Forum veteran
#25
Jan 28, 2013
JTOJTO said:
I don´t know exactly if the govenrments are yet
able to build brain interfaces, or "man machine interfaces",but
being a true conspiracy theorist, I would guess they already
got there in the 90´s.
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I guess I'll be known as the skeptic of this forums :p

I agree anything is possible if you are a conspiracy theorist, but for what is known in the academy and computational neuroscience circles even now people struggle to have the sufficient bandwidth and low latency required to read live streams of raw data from brain-computer interfaces. In the 90's it would be VERY unlikely to have anything useful.

JTOJTO said:
I believe that today, it´s possible
for the CIA, NSA etc. to hack into any PC with ease,
without even being physically conected to the web.
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I can think of two ways this may happen: personally having someone using the computer, and through some kind of machine-telepathy :p

You need a physical media to transfer any kind of data signal. Could be the air, yes, but you would need emitting and receiving devices at least, and communication protocols. An isolated PC would be precisely that, isolated.

JTOJTO said:
There´s going
to be 200.000 core cpus in some years available on the free
market, so it´s not hard to imagine that the governments with
their black projects are even much further advancend to this
moment while I´m typing this.
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That is extremely impractical. There are limits to miniaturization, and computing efficiency would be greatly affected by the heat produced by having so many components in close proximity. For high-throughout and high-performance computing, it is proven that having multiple units as opposed to single powerful units is better cost and performance wise. That said, there ARE computing systems with more than 1 million cores. It should also be said that cores don't mean much in computing power, what is usually counted is "operations per second", which depends on several things and does not correlate with the number of cores. The Sequoia, current second fastest supercomputer, has 1.57 million cores and peaks at around 20 Peta FLOPS. The number one machine, Titan, has around 560,000 cores and reaches around 27 Peta FLOPS peak performance.

There ARE accessible, high performance computing devices currently available to the mainstream market. They're usually called video cards.
 
videopete

videopete

Senior user
#26
Jan 28, 2013
kingbrendarr said:
Forgive me if I seem a bit demanding. It should be a baseline feature not a software upgrade or application.
I am ok with needing to plug into a "node" for serious connection speeds and stealth but that is for specialized work and not quality of life.
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Okay, in the gulp 203x game they had these things called agents, they are like smart phones but with built in mini AI, they do everything a a regular Internet browser does, you visit data pools for various groups, but to Tetons the true net, well grab a hand held and start walking around the house while playing, don't pause, but play while doing all of your chores, try to talk while playing, you'll find you cant. At least not well, not safely. No sane runner would try it. For all your facebooking and blot reading you can use an agent. Remember when you are on a run, the last thing you want are distractions, Decks are expensive as are programs, and you cant replace your mind.
 
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d1am0ndback

Rookie
#27
Jan 28, 2013
I'm hoping we can make a separate avatar for the interface. We can present ourselves on the internet as something else.

I would be a black cat. Or a white rabbit.

As for Netrunners, they are hackers that can access the menu so they should be almost like GODS in this realm. Trying to uncover an A.I. conspiracy involving Alt's Ghost. :p
 
kingbrendarr

kingbrendarr

Senior user
#28
Jan 29, 2013
videopete said:
Okay, in the gulp 203x game they had these things called agents, they are like smart phones but with built in mini AI, they do everything a a regular Internet browser does, you visit data pools for various groups, but to Tetons the true net, well grab a hand held and start walking around the house while playing, don't pause, but play while doing all of your chores, try to talk while playing, you'll find you cant. At least not well, not safely. No sane runner would try it. For all your facebooking and blot reading you can use an agent. Remember when you are on a run, the last thing you want are distractions, Decks are expensive as are programs, and you cant replace your mind.
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But you do want to use your private network to interface with people you know and trust. you do want to have an update on the activity of the police in the area, you do want to have local maps available so that you can make a quick escape and on and on
 
kingbrendarr

kingbrendarr

Senior user
#29
Jan 29, 2013
Sardukhar said:
I think we should absolutely have an immersive, VR overlay of the Net that you navigate. I also think that when a Netrunner "hacks" in, it should be that only much more immersive, more icons, patrolling and vicious ICE, etc.
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This very much this
 
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