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New CG Cinematic for The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt Shows Geralt “Killing Monsters”

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Agent_Blue

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#1,001
Aug 21, 2013
GeraltofCyrodiil said:
OMG 1000 replies.
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Correction,

1002.
There's a lot which hasn't been discussed, like,
Why is the girl wearing MAC make up?

:D
I say let's make it to 2000.
 
wichat

wichat

Mentor
#1,002
Aug 22, 2013
Well, I've just re-viewing the trailer again and:

The only dilemma Geralt has is to follow the Vesemir's advice: Don't middle. Take the reward and let's go.

It's exactly the same scene of Rivia, when while the last part of their journey Geralt want to stop the cruelty he see and Jaskier say to him (the official edict of Pogrom is repalced by another dubious moral sentence): Don't do it, Geralt, let's go on. It's a scene book place it 5-6 yeras later but in the same scenario of after-war horror. And CDPR are just introducing Geralt and his way to be. Look for further explanation is only a free waste of time.

GREAT, CDPR's guys! Thank you very much. I love your devotion to the original books and love this little homage to them!
 
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karangoswamikenz

Rookie
#1,003
Aug 22, 2013
vivaxardas said:
Yes, I am fine with sparing her a torment. The discussion above was about a general principle, and whether it is warranted to make claims about certain matters without proper justification.

As I see it, a general problem with this trailer is that you can take any perspective you want, and it is still problematic, either concerning Geralt's behavior, a choice he makes, an absence of choice, or a message behind the trailer that presents TW3 in rather undesirable for me light. We'll see how it eventually plays out, but I would really want to get more info from the devs.
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My friend, let me put my argument to your points. See the logic and tell me if you disagree. The soldiers accused the woman. Geralt does not know whether they were true or not. They were tormenting the woman to death. That is inhuman. You talked about international tribunals. Stoning a criminal to death is wrong. Death itself is the punishment. Death from torment is wrong, that is why a lot of the old execution methods are banned today. Geralt saw this as injustice and he acted. He aarded the soldier, but he knew they would attack him with the intent of killing him so he acted in self defense and killed them.

Now let's play this another way. Say that Geralt saw the woman kill innocent people. He would not have interfered just like he was not going to interfere with the soldiers when they were hanging her. It's not his job to stop her, he's a witcher. But if he saw her tormenting and stopping a wounded man just so she can eat him or loot him, Geralt would have punched her and sent her running, because he has the power to stop an unjust/immoral act and he is only human. If she would have come back with a knife/baton to attack him he would have most certainly killed her in self defense just the same way as the soldiers. Geralt is simple stopping the humans from doing something monstrous. He killed them to save himself, not the woman.
You see this as logical now?

Please think properly before you go to a war like situation and decide to kill a human with a weapon provisioned to you. False logic like yours could make an unjust decision on someone's life.
 
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vivaxardas2015

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#1,004
Aug 23, 2013
Ahh, actually, fo me it was never about killing the soldiers, it was about letting a cannibalistic marauder go. He killed some monsters, and let another out of his cage? This is just one of the perspectives.
Anyway, we spent a lot of time on this, and made it to 1000 posts. This debate looked at different perspectives we could take on this trailer. Just read what people posted. It is interesting, a lot of posts are well thought-out from both sides of this argument. It is not adversarial because we are not in a court of law. Just a discussion among friends.
 
EmperorZorn

EmperorZorn

Moderator
#1,005
Aug 23, 2013
GeraltofCyrodiil said:
OMG 1000 replies.
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...and 900 of those replies are me talking about Ciri. Probably. :p

So lets live up to that estimate and ask a cirious question:
Do you guys think there will be a Ciri reveal trailer ?

CDPR is acting very secretive about her.
While Yennefer has been mentioned by CDPR staff in several interviews,
everyone keeps quiet about Ciri and her role or presence in TW3.

..well, one can hope there is a meaning behind that.
 
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karangoswamikenz

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#1,006
Aug 23, 2013
vivaxardas said:
Ahh, actually, fo me it was never about killing the soldiers, it was about letting a cannibalistic marauder go. He killed some monsters, and let another out of his cage? This is just one of the perspectives.
Anyway, we spent a lot of time on this, and made it to 1000 posts. This debate looked at different perspectives we could take on this trailer. Just read what people posted. It is interesting, a lot of posts are well thought-out from both sides of this argument. It is not adversarial because we are not in a court of law. Just a discussion among friends.
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Yes, he let her go because he has not seen her perform a monstrous act. He has no right to judge unless he sees her do it?

Does this seem logical?
 
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Lahiri.308

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#1,007
Aug 23, 2013
I'm having this feeling that Vesemir is going to die in The Witcher 3 story. Good and tough old witcher lived a lot already, and this would make things much more dramatic to the plot, and of course, one more badass reason for Geralt to do what he does best...kill.
 

IsengrimR

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#1,008
Aug 23, 2013
Lahiri said:
I'm having this feeling that Vesemir is going to die in The Witcher 3 story. Good and tough old witcher lived a lot already, and this would make things much more dramatic to the plot, and of course, one more badass reason for Geralt to do what he does best...kill.
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o.0'
No.
Hell, no.

Why would Vesemir die? He is old, experienced and deadly as every witcher. Why would Geralt kill him?
Nah, Vesemir is his mentor, he gave him name ( in a way ), like an crazy killing uncle that he never had ( and father ).
 
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tasir

Rookie
#1,009
Aug 23, 2013



No, just no…
I really-really hope nobody will die in TW3 or at least we can help/save our friends. :/

ColIsengrim said:
Why would Geralt kill him? Nah, Vesemir is his mentor, he gave him name ( in a way ), like an crazy killing uncle that he never had ( and father ).
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I guess Lahiri didn’t mean that Geralt would kill him BUT he would revenge the death of Vesemir. If I understood correctly.

Anyway, he is indeed very old and experienced Witcher and thus not so easy to kill him. Fortunately.
 
Garrison72

Garrison72

Mentor
#1,010
Aug 23, 2013
Tasir said:
No, just no…
I really-really hope nobody will die in TW3 or at least we can help/save our friends. :/
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You are aware this is The Witcher we are talking about?
 
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tasir

Rookie
#1,011
Aug 23, 2013
slimgrin said:
You are aware this is The Witcher we are talking about?
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Yes. And I know that there will be death, of course. But - as I said - I do hope we will be able to help our friends (some of them), at least.

Yeah, maybe I'm too naive... -.-'
 
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KnightofPhoenix

Rookie
#1,012
Aug 23, 2013
Am I horrible for kinda wanting Dandelion to die?
 
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Lahiri.308

Rookie
#1,013
Aug 23, 2013
ColIsengrim said:
o.0'
No.
Hell, no.

Why would Vesemir die? He is old, experienced and deadly as every witcher. Why would Geralt kill him?
Nah, Vesemir is his mentor, he gave him name ( in a way ), like an crazy killing uncle that he never had ( and father ).
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I never meant that Geralt will kill him, that would have no logic at all. Tasir is correct, what i meant is that Geralt will avenge his death.I think it would give a "never feel safe" vibe about the characters in the game, making things more interesting, just like G.R.R.Martin books (which are as good as Sapkowsky's, in my opinion).
 
Garrison72

Garrison72

Mentor
#1,014
Aug 23, 2013
KnightofPhoenix said:
Am I horrible for kinda wanting Dandelion to die?
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Dandy is marvelous in the books. He challenges Geralt, keeps him honest. He can go from comedic to sincere in a single paragraph. I wish CDPR would bring more of this into the games.
 
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Lahiri.308

Rookie
#1,015
Aug 23, 2013
slimgrin said:
Dandy is marvelous in the books. He challenges Geralt, keeps him honest. He can go from comedic to sincere in a single paragraph. I wish CDPR would bring more of this into the games.
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I couldn't agree more. Dandelion's personality and relashionship with Geralt are away better in the books and not very much explored in the games.. Which is kinda odd since Dandelion is Geralt's best friend. I hope CDPK changes that with W3.
 
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KnightofPhoenix

Rookie
#1,016
Aug 23, 2013
I see. In the games, esp the 2nd, Dandy is just a jackass.
 
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vivaxardas2015

Rookie
#1,017
Aug 23, 2013
I don't even want to think about who can die in TW3. We did not really have any deaths among significant Geralt's friends and supporters thus far (only Blue Stripes, but they were not major NPCs), so it is not exactly like GoT where nearly everyone eventually drops dead for some reason or other. At least I hope we'll have an option to save them if deaths of friends are a possibility.

Yes, Dandelion has much larger role in the books. He is not only about brothels and whores, he is actually much more significant as a character. Hopefully nobody will kill him, that would be not cool.
 

Agent_Blue

Guest
#1,018
Aug 29, 2013
Mocap sessions:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=lOzW7tc9hio
 
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CostinRaz

Banned
#1,019
Aug 29, 2013
slimgrin said:
Dandy is marvelous in the books. He challenges Geralt, keeps him honest. He can go from comedic to sincere in a single paragraph. I wish CDPR would bring more of this into the games.
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Doesn't he do that in TW1 to a degree at least?
 
wichat

wichat

Mentor
#1,020
Aug 29, 2013
AgentBlue said:
Mocap sessions:
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOzW7tc9hio&feature=player_detailpage[/media]
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Thank you very much. No words to add when images speak by themself.
 
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