NEW *PC Gameplay* Graphics looking good! Ultra maybe!

[BossJ]

Seriously guys, pause and don't start an other downgrade hell...
Just wait the release and see, .xml file as been discovered with the feature parameters inside, nVidia feature video is released (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfGFU2XPLr4) with the past april gameplay footage video as well(http://www.gamersyde.com/hqstream_the_witcher_3_wild_hunt_gameplay_trailer-34468_en.html); as all the previewers said that wasn't the final version, they still holding the last since they can with the missing predownload files and they can't for the physical consoles versions.
If you want to think worst, then think about an marketing agreement for free advertising from Sony and Microsoft that are holding the competition since they can do it without too much financial problem and the pc side don't have an equal high sponsor to support such marketing maneuvering.
In the end I'm dissapointend about the terrain and building tessellation just like someone of you, still I don't know if it's totally missing, and I'm waiting, if even the water tessellation will be out well I've wasted 140 euros, no problem, I'll think about twice next time on the next Steam sales.

I agree with all you said. You're right. I do think negative right away, because us PC gamers have been burned more than once, because consoles are lacking SIGNIFICANTLY, because it doesn't SEEM to match what we are seeing this week.

PS the HOPE is that all that video is RECENT.

 

[azrael.1289]

But pre-alpha should not look BETTER than the released product. If you think that's Ok, than we are all being brainwashed or just accepting it. Why release a BETTER looking product 2 years BEFORE .. I'm not talking 6 months. I mean 2 YEARS on 2 YEAR old hardware... That's what blows my mind...

and to say IN GAME FOOTAGE. thats just a crazy thought for me.

That's just what pre-alpha means. It has many many missing features that you don't get to see in that footage and when you build in those features, you may have to re distribute some of the resources you had allocated to graphics to have those systems running. Also, you don't know it was running on two year old hardware. CDPR obviously don't use consumer products to develop their games.
Believe me this is in no way isolated to this game or games in general. This is how all softwares works. If you look at just one aspect, it could be better in older versions of the software but would've had to be taken in a different direction because of many factors.

 

[BossJ]

Why couldn't the development have been similar to Witcher 2? Ported over to consoles after the fact and not to the detriment of either game i cant wrap my head around any of this. I mean lets be honest here, the witcher fanbase is mainly PC gamers, witcher 2 outsold its console counterpart by a large margin in a hell of a lot less time, most of us will have waited and waited and saved and saved in excitement for this game looking at every little trailer and screenshot reinforcing the excitement. Because development was multiplatform and seemingly ambitious they have weakened by a large margin, the original platform just to release simultaneously.

Look at what they said in 2013. The way they have handled the PR of this release has been horrible.

Spoiler

Q: You moved into console development with Witcher 2, but PC seems very much like your home platform still. In the light of Sony's announcements about how closely tied to PC architecture the PS4 will be, do you see that changing?

Adam Badowski: We know a lot about the next gen platforms that we can't comment on yet, but our strategy is that we're always trying to maximise the quality for the platform, to use its particular strengths and advantages. Usually the weakest platform dictates the quality for all platforms, but high-quality visuals are our trademark so we need to approach each platform as individually as possible.

Of course, large scale technical decisions in our engine, such as opting for 64-but architecture, Direct X11, are made globally, but we do try to treat platforms individually.PC allows for more at the moment, but new platforms are stepping up. In the future, it should be much easier to unify the requirements. Some things, like control schemes, will still need to be tailored to the platforms but the new platforms will unify requirements.

And there it is. Sad that the weakest platform dictates the quality for all platforms. Guess this is my last hope that the Witcher 3 would be geared to PC gamers. See.. Everyone that defended CDPR - that statement says it all.

but the new platforms will unify requirements. n= Downgrade for PCs that can run ultra quality. I mean true ULTRA quality..

Guys THIS is the problem with production of games. The next gen consoles IF you see it from CDPR's perspective... you build for the weakest link. PC gamers = graphic downgrade always. How does this not piss off the PC gaming community? is it honestly just me?

 

[Darkgondul]

I agree with all you said. You're right. I do think negative right away, because us PC gamers have been burned more than once, because consoles are lacking SIGNIFICANTLY, because it doesn't SEEM to match what we are seeing this week.

PS the HOPE is that all that video is RECENT.

Thanks, and more, the pc games never need, at last for the last 15 years, a massive publisher marketing maneuvering since we quite all know how these things work, so isn't the first time and will be not the last, plus we not need some tv spot all made with CGI to evaluate a good product or been trapped in that pour mind marketing maneuverings;
All the pc marketing is based on shared technical opinions, not by a tv spot, neither some special event to inducing gamers with kind words as well as new and technically strange.
Again, in the end I think it's absurd throw everything just for some console marketing acts since every single asset has his costs, and as you said HOPE is last to die and don't cost nothing.

Have a nice rest all!

 

[BossJ]

That's just what pre-alpha means. It has many many missing features that you don't get to see in that footage and when you build in those features, you may have to re distribute some of the resources you had allocated to graphics to have those systems running. Believe me this is in no way isolated to this game or games in general. This is how all softwares works. If you look at just one aspect, it could be better in older versions of the software but would've had to be taken in a different direction because of many factors.

Theres no way that YOU HONESTLY believe that in ANY WORLD PRE ALPHA - not even BETA - Graphic quality would look THAT MUCH better than the original game... .and you think thats OK?!?!? No way in hell... anyone looks at that and logically thinks to themselves, well it's pre-alpha .. we can't expect the game to look better than that. pre-alpha is the best it'll ever be. /mindblown

 

[azrael.1289]

Theres no way that YOU HONESTLY believe that in ANY WORLD PRE ALPHA - not even BETA - Graphic quality would look THAT MUCH better than the original game... .and you think thats OK?!?!? No way in hell... anyone looks at that and logically thinks to themselves, well it's pre-alpha .. we can't expect the game to look better than that. pre-alpha is the best it'll ever be. /mindblown

I don't think you understand what pre-alpha means. I don't look at pre-alpha and say final game will look worse than this. I look at pre-alpha and think that it's way too early to tell exactly how the final game will end up looking. Anyways, we have said enough about this. So, we'll just leave it here for now.

 

[BossJ]

I don't think you understand what pre-alpha means. I don't look at pre-alpha and say final game will look worse than this. I look at pre-alpha and think that it's way too early to tell exactly how the final game will end up looking. Anyways, we have said enough about this. So, we'll just leave it here for now.

Ha - pre-alpha footage to me means.. .not even close to a finished product, but damn... graphics should be the same or better. WHY release it... if you don't think you can hit that graphic setting, except for a marketing ploy - IE Watch Dogs all over again.

 

[Slavo]

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There's advertisment, there's marketing, and there's pure bullshit, it's not about worse graphics it's that CD PROJEKT claimed that this game can look like earlier trailers, and it won't. That nothing was cut. And what was advertised will be delivered. I fear it won't.

 

[BossJ]

Witcher 2 1080p ultra settings GTX 980
https://youtu.be/4IUSWek8vhU?t=154

Witcher 3 1080p ultra settings GTX TITAN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hv0gJ8DpUd0&t=11m38s

I feel pretty stupid buying a new PC guys i gotta admit.

I told you guys. Witcher 2 WAS WAY beyond it's time - GUYS this WAS 2011!!!!! 2011!!!!

Witcher 2 is unbelievable LOOKING - EVEN to 2015. But Witcher 3? Major MAJOR downgrade. unless something will be done in patches. BUT i highly doubt it. Also realize W3 is only 5 gigs larger than W2... That DOES say something. Especially when it's supposed to be A MUCH bigger game.

The game was produced for the weakest.

... gah.

Without understanding (because the lack of information) the reasons behind this... as a creator of the game (in graphics term) I could not honestly be proud of the change from W2 to W3... It looks like a downgrade.

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There's advertisment, there's marketing, and there's pure bullshit, it's not about worse graphics it's that CD PROJEKT claimed that this game can look like earlier trailers, and it won't. That nothing was cut. And what was advertised will be delivered. I fear it won't.

It's sad. That's night and day difference Shame on the PC community for thinking it was a true rendering of the released game.

All right, well I'm going to play W2. Hoping for the best, thinking the worst 1st world problems right?

 

[Slavo]

To be honest witcher 2 was closed down linear game not an open world one, and remember w2 was made PC first (graphics) and was advertised as hardcore pc game not for everyone. Sure it was obvious that at least one console will get it it had terrible consolified UI, but still.
W3 is multiplat from day 1, it had to be brought to lowest common denominator. What can't be done on consoles won't be done for PC. :/

 

[BossJ]

To be honest witcher 2 was closed down linear game not an open world one, and remember w2 was made PC first (graphics) and was advertised as hardcore pc game not for everyone. Sure it was obvious that at least one console will get it it had terrible consolified UI, but still.
W3 is multiplat from day 1, it had to be brought to lowest common denominator. What can't be done on consoles won't be done for PC. :/

But why? GTA V did it... Far Cry 4 did it. Unity did it (despite bugs yes yes yes)

I know I know it is what it is. Be happy. Don't like the game, don't buy it

 

[MadGeralt]

But why? GTA V did it... Far Cry 4 did it. Unity did it (despite bugs yes yes yes)

GTA V and Far Cry 4 look way worse than Witcher 3 on PC...

Unity is on par but has its own share of graphical issues as well (like constant texture and NPC pop ups)...

 

[BossJ]

GTA V and Far Cry 4 look way worse than Witcher 3 on PC...

Unity is on par but has its own share of graphical issues as well (like constant texture and NPC pop ups)...

Sometimes I feel you are blind. No hard feelings but I don't think you have played far cry 4 on ultra or unity at ultra... Could be assuming, and if so I apologize to each his own.

Just a little comparison...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmtLefnZvss Far Cry 4...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hv0gJ8DpUd0&t=11m38s Witcher 3 (this week)

 

[Sardukhar]

<cracks knuckles>

What IS THIS?

Downgrade talk? Madness?! Are we in need of another round of BANNINGS!?

This is a no-go area, kids. NOT to protect CDPR - who are about to make godawful amounts of money and laugh at such small things whilst scratching thieir evilly bearded chins - but because EVERY downgrade-style topic degrades,( heh) into flamewars and angry bickering.



And this we will not have.

So! Cease!

 

[BossJ]

<cracks knuckles>

What IS THIS?

Downgrade talk? Madness?! Are we in need of another round of BANNINGS!?

This is a no-go area, kids. NOT to protect CDPR - who are about to make godawful amounts of money and laugh at such small things whilst scratching thieir evilly bearded chins - but because EVERY downgrade-style topic degrades,( heh) into flamewars and angry bickering.



And this we will not have.

So! Cease!

Wait. We were just told by moderator GuyNwah that we were allowed to continue on the forums topic and to just be respectful to each other? PC graphics is not ok to talk about?

 

[Nacho_el_Man]

I told you guys. Witcher 2 WAS WAY beyond it's time - GUYS this WAS 2011!!!!! 2011!!!!

Witcher 2 is unbelievable LOOKING - EVEN to 2015. But Witcher 3? Major MAJOR downgrade. unless something will be done in patches. BUT i highly doubt it. Also realize W3 is only 5 gigs larger than W2... That DOES say something. Especially when it's supposed to be A MUCH bigger game.

The game was produced for the weakest.

... gah.

Without understanding (because the lack of information) the reasons behind this... as a creator of the game (in graphics term) I could not honestly be proud of the change from W2 to W3... It looks like a downgrade.

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It's sad. That's night and day difference Shame on the PC community for thinking it was a true rendering of the released game.

All right, well I'm going to play W2. Hoping for the best, thinking the worst 1st world problems right?

I think it looks gorgeous, if really watch the video you can see that ProjektRed changed the "art style" and now looks more colored and less dreary. It looks like the PS4 version but with much more detail and grass, etc.

It looks alive and it looks beautifull! To me at least. Maybe down the road they could add different setting depending on what you like (colorful, dark, gray, etc) on the PC version that is, hell even on the consoles, I will be plying on PS4 so would love that.

 

[GuyNwah]

Wait. We were just told by moderator GuyNwah that we were allowed to continue on the forums topic and to just be respectful to each other? PC graphics is not ok to talk about?

PC graphics in general are fine to discuss.

Claims that PC graphics have been downgraded are unfounded, offensive, and prohibited. Read the FAQ.

Attempts to turn any thread into a so-called discussion of purported downgrades are thread hijacking.

 

[Slavo]

Answer is simple and REDs gave that answer. There was not enough time and manpower to make different pc version. PC version is little bit of afterthought.
It probably is true, but one can wonder, maybe this was intentional. they couldn't say something like next gen consoles are kinda week so we won't be able to make what we really want to, they are trying to hit console market with W3, don't forget that.
CD PROJEKT had fraction of budget compared to Rockstar.

 

[BossJ]

PC graphics in general is OK to discuss.

Claims that PC graphics have been downgraded are unfounded, offensive, and prohibited. Read the FAQ.

K - guess I'm done posting in here. Sorry bout that, thought this was a place to say how you feel, and look at it for what it is.

See ya guys.

 

[Slavo]

Yeah, it kinda looks like damage control. Anyway, only thing left now is waiting for some kind of "Enhanced edition" maybe those assets still exist and can be used to some good PC HD EDITION...... naaah.
One thing i know, i won't probably buy this game, any time soon. It's a shame, i was hyped as hell and i would be lying if it wasn't thanks to those early trailers.
I wanted this game to look that good and i wanted to believe when they said it would.