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Aaden

Rookie
#301
Feb 5, 2013
MyselfCosmin said:
Why ? Because others like Bethesda haven't done it ? Why think so limited ? Everything is possible if you want it. They are developing and engine especially for this, for open world RPGs, where choices and consequences matter. It's unlikely that they drop the whole choices and consequences in the witcher 3 when both TW games were focused on this.

It will be an amazing game, I have no doubts about that. Sure there will be moaners because they won't like some changes and they will keep whining and complaining about every little aspect, but this is how things are on gaming forums, people like to come and complain, will always be like this. I know that I'll enjoy this game, nothing can go wrong with it since they are developing this on top of the other two the witcher games, only bigger, better.

Imagine everything that you had in the witcher one and two only bigger, more complex, more content.
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I don't say it IS impossible, but it SEEMS TO BE. It's an incredible amount of effort. Think about how much unique content, they have to create to make sure the world is neither monotonous/repetitive nor has big empty, boring areas. It's such an enormously ambitious endeavour.

I hope all the best, and I already said if they can pull it off, it will be incredibly awesome. But I'm sceptical, and I will remain so, not because I don't trust CDPR, nor because I don't think it's possible, but because I only have just the slightest idea what an enormous amount of creative work is needed to get this right.
 
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Aaden

Rookie
#302
Feb 5, 2013
Cyberbeard said:
This.
+, didn't they say that the Red Engine more or less generates environments that the designer then can polish and tweak in detail? Saves them a lot of time from building the world, I bet.
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Don't think so, I think it offers tools to make the handiwork easier for their specific purpose of combining open world and rich story, but I don't think it's actually generating anything, automatically. At least I hope so, because that's a solution I wouldn't trust one bit - automatically generated environments tend to be just that: generic.
 
Daywalker30

Daywalker30

Senior user
#303
Feb 5, 2013
Aaden said:
I don't say it IS impossible, but it SEEMS TO BE. It's an incredible amount of effort. Think about how much unique content, they have to create to make sure the world is neither monotonous/repetitive nor has big empty, boring areas. It's such an enormously ambitious endeavour.
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And that's the problem with developers and/or publishers these days, they want to make much money quickly.

Look at the Xbox360 Version (I don't own a console so I can't really say how it performs with other console games),
they took 1 year to make it for the console and they also added stuff, other would have just ported it after a few months. That's some dedication you don't see nowadays.

So we can take that as a granted, that they will do the effort if they want to do it.
 
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Chewin3

Rookie
#304
Feb 5, 2013
I can't express the level of emotions I'm currently experiencing. This bit of info came a lot sooner than I expected, and never would have realized that me booting up my computer in the morning would be welcomed by TW3.

Reading through the news and all the features that haven been taken up in Game Informer has left me both in a very enthusiastic, but as well as in an agitated state. The small notes on the improved combat mechanics, importance of quests (particularly monster hutning ones), inclusion of horses and boats, etc all sound very admirable and intriguing, but a certain part that got me worried was this particular info:


The impression I got from this (with the added info as a whole) the games premise will be "fighting a human threat and less politics". I can understand the exclusion of politics is an aspect CDPR is 'pursuing' this time around, and in contrast focusing more on a personal story for Geralt. I'm personally am a fan of when Geralt gets tangled into the political intrigues in the story as he did in TW2--being forced into the involvement despite it being an aspect he truly loathes. But this time around, I kinda see it as a 'logical' move to put the politics aside and have the importance of the Wild Hunt at the center, since it has for two games already been in the side, only having small hints of it. However, the implication of "human threat" is a concept I'm utterly bored of. If the plot centers around a "save the world" scenario, where a greater threat overshadows the Northern War conflict, then I will have a very volatile opinion of it.

But this is me viewing it from paper, with added speculations. While I do want politics having a great importance in the game, but as long as there is a solid, cohesive story that justifies your level of involvement and choices in the game, it will be enough for me.
 
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SlimeDynamiteD

Rookie
#305
Feb 5, 2013
When I woke up this very morning by a text from my ex girlfriend I thought my day could not get any worse.

That was until I turned on my PC and noticed a very welcoming Cover photo on Facebook. I believe we all know what this cover photo is. Obviously the Witcher 3 cover Photo.
And then it struck me... THE WITCHER 3 ANNOUNCEMENT OH YEAH!

So I rushed to this forums and checked out the list above and I can tell you, I'm blown away.
After seeing the interview I can't say anything but I have faith in the developers and their open world, I think this might be where they'd want to take the saga from the beginning and I have faith that they won't mess it up :)

GO CDPR!

Anyhow, now it's waiting for the first trailer.. hmph... >.<

:D
 
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501105

Forum veteran
#306
Feb 5, 2013
I say let us have some faith in CD Projekt, it sounds like an extremely difficult undertaking, but they have not let us down thus far, in contrast to many other developers (for the record, I usually am far less trusting, but CD Projekt has done nothing wrong so far).
 
Mothra

Mothra

Forum veteran
#307
Feb 5, 2013
The biggest hurdle in open world games for a focused, properly paced story is the ability to abandon a quest/location to revisit an old location of lesser importance. Imagine TW2 act3 just before the council meeting Geralt decides to go back to Flotsam because some nekkers respawned in the malena quest cave and he wants more mutagens. The horror !
If they give you that option you should be severly handicapped in resolving main storyline quests in a satisfying way.
If they have the guts to do so I applaud them.
 
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SlimeDynamiteD

Rookie
#308
Feb 5, 2013
The only thing that I'm afraid of are bugs,
open world games mostly have a shitload of bugs (especially at launch).
I hope CDPR can make a less buggy world :)
 
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Maerd.298

Forum veteran
#309
Feb 5, 2013
guipit said:
Well Elder Blood is highly sought after by the Wild Hunt so who knows what kind of power they hold. As for the time travel killing Geralt theory, Jacques had a kind of respect for Geralt and wanted to change his mind kinda that's why he invited him into his vision another possibility is that he couldn't control his power or didn't know he could time travel.

His actions were kind of inconsistent like saving Foltest when he was about to die from Scoiatel so yeah maybe he isn't a world wide threat but he could've easily killed a monarch and he got the city to be in chaos. I don't think Foltests army was there to protect him.

Although he isn't a threat to humanity he's presented like he is/could be one and that's what I wanted to point out.
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I'm glad that we agreed that grandmaster was not a threat to humanity, but rather a threat mostly to Foltest. Therefore, the plot was not about "save the world from the ultimate evil". That was my argument. Now my other argument was that in the video there was a worrying statement that TW3 will have that kind of plot, which is used in 80% of CRPGs. Will CDPR make such plot in the game time will tell, but if they are going for it I feel like I have to post my opinion because it seems like they really listen to gamers. I'm very glad to read that in the next game there will be: "scripted bosses out", "Team is aware of frustrations of inventory management in The Witcher, Committed to a less tedious process" and some other very positive technical aspects. Hopefully, they change their mind and make the Wild Hunt multidimentional (ehm... no pun intended) character with more complex ideas rather than "kill all humans because he's evil" or "kill all humans because he's elf and hate all humans" or "he wants to rule the world with iron fist". It's just not interesting, there are tons of other games with exactly the same scenario.
 
Mothra

Mothra

Forum veteran
#310
Feb 5, 2013
I agree that "save humanity from unspeakable evil" is oooooold.
But CDPR showed that you can make a nuanced and interesting antagonist with Letho so I hope they can do the same if they really go with the "save humanity from xyz".
2nd worst PRG trope: save humanity from itself
 
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cyberarmy.603

Rookie
#311
Feb 5, 2013
All i want to know is, what kind of mounts Zoltan and Dandy will be using? Donkey for Zoltan and pony for Dandelion?
 
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mrowakus

Forum veteran
#312
Feb 5, 2013
Chewin3 said:
I can't express the level of emotions I'm currently experiencing. This bit of info came a lot sooner than I expected, and never would have realized that me booting up my computer in the morning would be welcomed by TW3.

Reading through the news and all the features that haven been taken up in Game Informer has left me both in a very enthusiastic, but as well as in an agitated state. The small notes on the improved combat mechanics, importance of quests (particularly monster hutning ones), inclusion of horses and boats, etc all sound very admirable and intriguing, but a certain part that got me worried was this particular info:


The impression I got from this (with the added info as a whole) the games premise will be "fighting a human threat and less politics". I can understand the exclusion of politics is an aspect CDPR is 'pursuing' this time around, and in contrast focusing more on a personal story for Geralt. I'm personally am a fan of when Geralt gets tangled into the political intrigues in the story as he did in TW2--being forced into the involvement despite it being an aspect he truly loathes. But this time around, I kinda see it as a 'logical' move to put the politics aside and have the importance of the Wild Hunt at the center, since it has for two games already been in the side, only having small hints of it. However, the implication of "human threat" is a concept I'm utterly bored of. If the plot centers around a "save the world" scenario, where a greater threat overshadows the Northern War conflict, then I will have a very volatile opinion of it.

But this is me viewing it from paper, with added speculations. While I do want politics having a great importance in the game, but as long as there is a solid, cohesive story that justifies your level of involvement and choices in the game, it will be enough for me.
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Watch out! With all due respect to CDPRed, they are notorious for overhyping their games and not delivering later on the anticipated features. We will be very lucky if half of the promises will end up in the game. For me this has become a benchmark.
 
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Kodaemon5924

Forum veteran
#313
Feb 5, 2013
cyberarmy said:
All i want to know is, what kind of mounts Zoltan and Dandy will be using? Donkey for Zoltan and pony for Dandelion?
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Dandelion rode a gelding named Pegasus. I don't remember dwarves using mounts at all, but it might just be my memory.
 
yayodeanno.831

yayodeanno.831

Forum veteran
#314
Feb 5, 2013
Kodaemon said:
Dandelion rode a gelding named Pegasus. I don't remember dwarves using mounts at all, but it might just be my memory.
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Zoltan is "kinda" riding a horse in The Baptism Of Fire, he can't reach the stirrups though. ;)
 
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goopit

Forum veteran
#315
Feb 5, 2013
Mrowakus said:
Watch out! With all due respect to CDPRed, they are notorious for overhyping their games and not delivering later on the anticipated features.
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What features?
 
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Kaldurenik

Senior user
#316
Feb 5, 2013
The list is overall worrying. The fact they want to add slowmotion button awesome, the cinematic experience, movies and QTE is... worrying. I mean why make a game if you cant tell a story by the interactive media and instead have to use the "cinematic experience" but then again i might be the only person that think this.. I miss the games where they told the story by the gameplay instead of movies =/ *sigh*.

The game will be larger then skyrim, have a smaller team then bethesda it will have about 100 hours of content (according to the PR person) this mean that you can reduce said number with 50 to 80%. Considering that the world is larger im very worried that the world will be a boring, dead place that lack things to do.

While the combat sound... interesting and better its easy to talk about something but harder to do.

And then last if not the worst line there... Press the left trigger... What is this a console port? Now im worried as hell do this mean that we will get a horrible console ui once again, lack of "enemies" on the screen due to the Console horrible hardware in other words everything will be scaled back due to the consoles... This is... worrying.

Overall my hype have kinda died right now sadly =(

Also there better not be any quest compasses... quick travel is bad enough... but if there is a quest compass... *makes a sign to keep the devil away*
 
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zinux

Rookie
#317
Feb 5, 2013


I might be looking too much into this, but the reins Geralt is holding are definitely in Nilfgaardian colours (Black and silvery white)! This at least indicates him having traveled in Nilfgaard.

Geralt's companion is obviously Dandelion in drag.
 
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Maerd.298

Forum veteran
#318
Feb 5, 2013
ZinuX said:
I might be looking too much into this, but the reins Geralt is holding are definitely in Nilfgaardian colours (Black and silvery white)! This at least indicates him having traveled in Nilfgaard.

Geralt's companion is obviously Dandelion in drag.
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His companion is obviously Ciri. Just look no further than her hair (white as Geralt's). And a silver sword on the horse. It's 100% Ciri.
 
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Chewin3

Rookie
#319
Feb 5, 2013
Mrowakus said:
Watch out! With all due respect to CDPRed, they are notorious for overhyping their games and not delivering later on the anticipated features. We will be very lucky if half of the promises will end up in the game. For me this has become a benchmark.
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Goes for quite many game companies, I'd say. And trust me, while I'm excited over the game, I've had my fair share of disappointments in the past so I'm not taking everything for granted what they'll be promising.
 
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goopit

Forum veteran
#320
Feb 5, 2013
ZinuX said:
I might be looking too much into this, but the reins Geralt is holding are definitely in Nilfgaardian colours (Black and silvery white)! This at least indicates him having traveled in Nilfgaard.

Geralt's companion is obviously Dandelion in drag. />
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Good eye! makes me think that the game won't be mostly us journeying to Nilfgaard but it's the prologue of the game maybe? and then we go back and fix something in the North.
 
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