Skyrim has the best NPCs I've ever seen, has few, but they are all unique, have a routine in the game (wake, eat, work, sleep etc.) I remember the guards change shift to eat/sleep.. is amazing
Yeah it's unavoidable, this isn't a medi evil world anymore with small villages and towns and only one or two big cities. Also THIS is not an important thing right now. Later on you can make as many NPCs as you want when you are done with the really important stuff, same as with the Character Creator who could use some tooling, this is more something for the end of the development or the moment the model designers are done with modelling the main characters and stuff.
What I hope to see then is some really funky, crazy Cyberpunk stuff, considering what was possible in 2020 in terms of transhumanism. Until now most people are really just people with some prosthetics, Lizzy Wizzy as fully chromed is the exception for now in crazyness.
Even if there were procedurally generated npc's you'd get repeats. It'd still have to draw from a pool of pre-created resources. Hell, even in real life you can run into somebody that looks or dresses similar to yourself. Sometimes you run into somebody wearing the exact same outfit.. and then feel awkward. Some people actually meet their doppelganger and then take pictures of the meet and put it on the internet. I'd just run away if that happened to me. My response would be fear not joy.
I don't really mind if there are repeated random NPC's. You can't do anything with them anyway.
What I do wonder if it would be possible to tie small random-result interactions to the models. Small bit of chatter that might reveal a "random encounter" around the corner or some "secret/point of interest" nearby, pickpocketing for random item or eddies, intimidating (for a either a fight on sight - fists or guns, randomly - or to get few eddies, or have the NPC flee), seduction, persuasion (for temporary follower), knock-out (for fun and looting the body).
Little bits like that to spice up the bots. I don't care at all about them having routines, if there really is nothing you can do with them.
What I do wonder if it would be possible to tie small random-result interactions to the models. Small bit of chatter that might reveal a "random encounter" around the corner or some "secret/point of interest" nearby, pickpocketing for random item or eddies, intimidating (for a either a fight on sight - fists or guns, randomly - or to get few eddies, or have the NPC flee), seduction, persuasion (for temporary follower), knock-out (for fun and looting the body).
Little bits like that to spice up the bots. I don't care at all about them having routines, if there really is nothing you can do with them.
This is very important, clones break immersion
it happened in TW3.
Maybe less quantity and more diversity could help
it happened in TW3.
Maybe less quantity and more diversity could help
Skyrim has the best NPCs I've ever seen, has few, but they are all unique, have a routine in the game (wake, eat, work, sleep etc.) I remember the guards change shift to eat/sleep.. is amazing
Yeah, but Bethesda also kind of cheats by actually modeling out EVERY NPC. Because, so far, they've not made anything that really needed a massive amount of random NPCs walking around, Bethesda have had the luxury of being able to do that. It takes longer, but it also give better quality. And I don't see their upcoming space game, Starfield to be any different. Even ESO doesn't really have any truly random NPCs.
However, the crowds in CP2077 look REALLY good. No matter how many duplicates. And unless you know what you're looking for, those duplicates are kind of hard to spot even now.
At the time of the demo, there seemed to be about 10 presets for everything, but there are quite a few non average bodies in there and many of different height but yes dominated by more fit/young characters or super short or tall ones. And no kids.
V and Jackie seem to be the default body types.
Again showing off a demo in progress, they can always add more once everything else is there and working properly.
Not sure what that has to do with worst and most dangerous, a 20 something girl with an athletic body can kill you just as well as a 40s something muscle guy or not so fit person for that matter. Danger doesn't come from the way someone's body is or what age they are, unless at the very young or old ends of the spectrum really, but firearms are the great equalizer in that regard.
And I quote from 2020 "Because a 10mm slug at high velocity beats kung-fu any day"
Sure..but not everyone goes to guns immediately. Or at all, since it raises the stakes to terminal.
And in that sense, of non-lethal fights, a good big guy beats a good little guy pretty much every time. Weight classes exist for a reason.
Sure, but that isn't what the OP is talking about. It was just an example, that lack of body types has nothing to do with how dangerous the world is suppose to be.