No console footage shown?

[Tokei-ihto]

Quote from the "News thread" (I think it's more appropriate here):

All this, would be fixed just showing the console footage.

I trust in CD project but in this case I want see it just because I bought the PS4 , I jumped to the next-gen just for this game.

I don't want annoying but I want be sure with my game version., nothing more.

While I can understand your frustration to a certain extent, is it possible that this is just a symptom of the prolonged waiting time? I have the sneaking suspicion that a lot of the discontent that has manifested itself here on these forums over the last couple of months is down to people simply being overly eager to finally get their hands on the game. People have voiced a lot of concerns regarding all kinds of different aspects of the game, a lot of them, quite honestly, rather ridiculous. And while some of the enquiries are undoubtedly legitimate and reasonable - and I would count wanting to see console footage in action among them - , I wonder if being worried about the state of the PS4/XBoxOne version is just a means of occupying yourself until Witcher 3 is finally released. I mean, it's human nature. The more we have to wait for something, the more our mind tends to play tricks on us, making us think: What could go wrong? Will it live up to expectations? What if ...? etc.pp.

I mean, there is hardly any rational basis for this apprehension. Yes, the consoles are not as powerful as a PC that fulfils High Settings requirements, but they are no slouch either, no matter what certain parts of the gaming community would have you believe. And remember, CDPR has accomplished to deliver a really good port of a technically extremely demanding game already. Yes, there were undeniable visible differences between Witcher 2 on Xbox 360 and its PC counterpart, but despite the necessary compromises that were made it was nontheless quite a feat, considering it was done on a far more outdated, inferior hardware system. Not only are the new consoles much stronger than their respective predecessors (the gap between PC and console right now is as close as it gets for the forseeable future) but Witcher 3 is developed for all three systems simultaniously.

Also, let's not forget that CDPR has a flawless track record when it comes to delivering the goods. So even if you have been burned in the past by certain developer's shady dealings, I think it's fair to say that CDPR more than deserves our trust based on their past work (innocent until proven guilty )

And yes, CDPR is a PC developer first and foremost, but they are definitely aware of the fact that the majority of people (probably about two thirds) will be buying this game for either PS4 or XBoxOne. I'm sure they give the console version the required attention. Hell, they have postponed Witcher 3 two times just to make sure that it is as polished, both graphically and performance-wise, as it possibly can be.

Also, there have been enough reports of journalists confirming that the PS4 version in particular does indeed look impressive to quell most doubts regarding Witcher 3's quality on consoles. And while I'm aware of the general distrust towards game journalism, it strikes me as downright paranoid to just dismiss these impressions from a wide range of different gaming outlets from all over the world. After all, such a consensus* of opinion doesn't happen too often and is - generally speaking - rather reliable.

Now, since we are all can agree upon the fact that despite CDPR's best efforts Witcher 3 on consoles naturally won't quite reach the visual splendor of the PC version on High Settings, what does this mean for people who initially planned to buy the game for PS4/XboxOne? Well, assuming the folks in question are die hard Witcher fans - a given if you are a regular on these forums - and will purchase the game no matter what, that leaves them basically with two options. Buy it for console and accept the fact that despite it being the most gorgeous game on the system there is a better looking version out there, or go with the PC version. Do you have a powerful enough machine to run the game on High Settings? Yes? Well, what are you waiting for? If not the case, Witcher 3 will in most likelihood look worse (speaking in relative terms of course) than on consoles. Now, another possibility would be to invest in a new PC. That is if you are willing (and financially able) to spend the necessary amount of money on a new rig. The thing is, no matter what your personal verdict of the console graphics will be once CDPR decides to show some footage, the options remain the same.

And if the later is not a viable alternative, well, then it doesn't really matter if or when CDPR gives us a glimpse at the console versions, does it? The game will look the way it will look, and there's not really anything you can do about it one way or another. Apart from just being content with a gorgeous game that is so much more than just its astonishing graphics.
Perhaps ask yourself: Are you really that "obsessed" with the visual fidelity of the game? And if so, why? Or, just maybe, is this you just getting disproportionately concerned with one singular aspect of the game because of the punishing waiting time?

*And yes, there have been a few dissenting voices, there always are, but unless one falls victim to a severe case of comfirmation bias those isolated naysayers shouldn't be given too much attention.

 

[Sigma_Primaris]

Quote from the "News thread" (I think it's more appropriate here):



While I can understand your frustration to a certain extent, is it possible that this is just a symptom of the prolonged waiting time? I have the sneaking suspicion that a lot of the discontent that has manifested itself here on these forums over the last couple of months is down to people simply being overly eager to finally get their hands on the game. People have voiced a lot of concerns regarding all kinds of different aspects of the game, a lot of them, quite honestly, rather ridiculous. And while some of the enquiries are undoubtedly legitimate and reasonable - and I would count wanting to see console footage in action among them - , I wonder if being worried about the state of the PS4/XBoxOne version is just a means of occupying yourself until Witcher 3 is finally released. I mean, it's human nature. The more we have to wait for something, the more our mind tends to play tricks on us, making us think: What could go wrong? Will it live up to expectations? What if ...? etc.pp.

I mean, there is hardly any rational basis for this apprehension. Yes, the consoles are not as powerful as a PC that fulfils High Settings requirements, but they are no slouch either, no matter what certain parts of the gaming community would have you believe. And remember, CDPR has accomplished to deliver a really good port of a technically extremely demanding game already. Yes, there were undeniable visible differences between Witcher 2 on Xbox 360 and its PC counterpart, but despite the necessary compromises that were made it was nontheless quite a feat, considering it was done on a far more outdated, inferior hardware system. Not only are the new consoles much stronger than their respective predecessors (the gap between PC and console right now is as close as it gets for the forseeable future) but Witcher 3 is developed for all three systems simultaniously.

Also, let's not forget that CDPR has a flawless track record when it comes to delivering the goods. So even if you have been burned in the past by certain developer's shady dealings, I think it's fair to say that CDPR more than deserves our trust based on their past work (innocent until proven guilty )

And yes, CDPR is a PC developer first and foremost, but they are definitely aware of the fact that the majority of people (probably about two thirds) will be buying this game for either PS4 or XBoxOne. I'm sure they give the console version the required attention. Hell, they have postponed Witcher 3 two times just to make sure that it is as polished, both graphically and performance-wise, as it possibly can be.

Also, there have been enough reports of journalists confirming that the PS4 version in particular does indeed look impressive to quell most doubts regarding Witcher 3's quality on consoles. And while I'm aware of the general distrust towards game journalism, it strikes me as downright paranoid to just dismiss these impressions from a wide range of different gaming outlets from all over the world. After all, such a consensus* of opinion doesn't happen too often and is - generally speaking - rather reliable.

Now, since we are all can agree upon the fact that despite CDPR's best efforts Witcher 3 on consoles won't quite reach the visual splendor of the PC version on High Settings, what does this mean for people who initially planned to buy the game for PS4/XboxOne. Well, assuming the folks in question are die hards Witcher fans - a given if you are a regular on these forums - and will purchase the game no matter what, that leaves them basically with two options. Buy it for console and accept the fact that despite being the most gorgeous game on the system there is a better looking version out there or go with the PC version. Do you have a powerful enough machine to run the game on High Settings? Yes? Well, what are you waiting for? If not the case, Witcher 3 will in most likelihood look worse (speaking in relative terms of course) than on consoles. Now, another possibility would be to invest in a new PC. That is if you are willing (and financially able) to spend the necessary amount of money on a new rig. The thing is, no matter what your personal verdict of the console graphics will be once CDPR decides to show some footage, the options remain the same.

And if the later is not a viable alternative, well, then it doesn't really matter if or when CDPR gives us a glimpse at the console versions, does it? The game will look they way it will look, and there's not really anything you can do about it one way or another. Apart from just being content with a gorgeous game that is so much more than just its astonishing graphics.
Perhaps ask yourself: Are you really that "obsessed" with the visual fidelity of the game? And if so, why? Or, just maybe, is this you just getting disproportionately concerned with one singular aspect of the game because of the punishing waiting time?

*And yes, there have been a few dissenting voices, there always are, but unless one falls victim to a severe case of comfirmation bias those isolated naysayers shouldn't be given to much attention.

Wow, this post must be pinned on the main page. Especially the first paragraph which applies to nearly all complain-posts.
I would add that being wary of CDPR decisions without any reasons is not the best way to make them access our requests.

 

[prince_of_nothing]

And yes, CDPR is a PC developer first and foremost, but they are definitely aware of the fact that the majority of people (probably about two thirds) will be buying this game for either PS4 or XBoxOne. I'm sure they give the console version the required attention. Hell, they have postponed Witcher 3 two times just to make sure that it is as polished, both graphically and performance-wise, as it possibly can be.

Thats quite an assumption to think that the game will sell more on the Xbox One or PS4 than PC. This series has strong roots in PC, so the PC version will undoubtedly sell very well, likely even more than the console versions if you look at previous history.

Anyway, other than the above, your post was spot on. Not being a console gamer myself, I can still empathize with console gamers concerning the final quality of the game, as they are our (as in PC gamers) concerns as well.

The only thing I can say is that CDPR has a great track record when it comes to delivering. They know they have a lot riding on the Witcher 3, so they will make it as great as humanly possible, of that you can be assured.. Will it look and run as good as the PC version? Of course not, but thats not CDPR's fault.

 

[caspartine]

Cmon, don't be naive, PC market ain't the one making the big money. The assumption is right. Yes, the origins of the games come from PC, but 1-2 years ago, if I remember correctly, CDPR announced they sold over 6M copies of both TW1+TW2....2-3 years after releasing TW2, even if that was a great achievement for the sudio, it pales in comparison with every shitty yet heavily marketed AAA title out there.

 

[tahirahmed]

Cmon, don't be naive, PC market ain't the one making the big money. The assumption is right. Yes, the origins of the games come from PC, but 1-2 years ago, if I remember correctly, CDPR announced they sold over 6M copies of both TW1+TW2....2-3 years after releasing TW2, even if that was a great achievement for the sudio, it pales in comparison with every shitty yet heavily marketed AAA title out there.

Not trying to bring the PC vs Console war but lets accept the reality, in today's challenging and costly game development. Going multiplatform is the most sensible way to remain profitable. Most of the console exclusives we see today are coming from devs directly related with Sony or Microsoft or say timed exclusives with heavily funded contracts otherwise most of the devs want to go multiplatform. The argument that PC market is not profitable is no longer true, we have seen more devs breaking exclusivity and going to PC this gen than ever before and there is a reason why every big studio wants to make their own digital selling point including GOG.com, Steam, Uplay and Origin.

The sale numbers of TW1 and TW2 were enough to make CDPR from a small PC only studio to a world renowned studio responsible for the most anticipated title of 2015, during this time they had developed a strong bond with PC gamers with their gamer first and DRM free gaming strategies. I have no problem with them going multiplatform as it's the most logical thing to do in order to become more profitable but this thing also applies to console only developers as they are also going to PC, "From Software" being the prominent example.

I won't be surprised if TW3 sell very well on PC, not to mention it will have much longer lifespan on PC than consoles because of the modding. Taking example of Skyrim that game is almost disappeared from consoles but on PC it's still alive and healthy thanks to wonderful modding community.

 

[caspartine]

Well, besides twisting my statement a bit (I by no means did say PC market ain't profitable, I said it ain't THAT porfitable), I agree completely. We see things in a similar fashion. What I would love to see, one day, is the title sales distribution across the platforms. You don't see these much, and I think many ppl would be surprised.

 

[sidspyker]

TW1+TW2....2-3 years after releasing TW2, even if that was a great achievement for the sudio, it pales in comparison with every shitty yet heavily marketed AAA title out there.

And? I didn't know there was a rule that AAA RPGs had to sell 12mn copies to be considered successful, let me remind you that TW2 was made on the budget of like $10mn(?) Compare that to an average AAA game which costs atleast $30-40mn like say Assassin's Creed, or Max Payne 3 ($103mn) or GTA V($265mn) They NEED more sales to break even, let alone generate profits worthy of supporting a multi-million, multi-national company. It's like comparing the earnings of 1 man to 10, it's not very sensible.

There is quite a difference between a game that is easily accessible/popular to one that needs you to learn a lot of mechanics in order to play. Blindly comparing such statistics without the proper data is dangerous and misleading.

So I don't know about console sales for TW3, it'll be high because next-gen consoles are out and not a lot of games to play yet but Witcher base on PC really strong, more so than most of the multiplat AAA's you're referring to.

Now I also suggest we get back on topic.

 

[caspartine]

You misunderstood, I'm talking simple sales numbers, that can be translated to popularity of the game (or sadly massive marketing, lately). The cost of production and copy sales NEEDED to profit is a whole different story. And as I said, I am aware of the fact it was a big deal for CDPR, and as you pointed out, since the production costs of TW2 were like 10-30% of the averige western AAA, it meant a huge profit even with those numbers. My somewhat hidden point was, that those numbers alone should be higher, if we consider the quality of TW2 compared to competiotion.
Didn't want to rub it longer than necessary, as it¨s clearly OT, just didn't want to leave it unexplained. Thanks.

 

[Euskalduna]

Quote from the "News thread" (I think it's more appropriate here):



While I can understand your frustration to a certain extent, is it possible that this is just a symptom of the prolonged waiting time? I have the sneaking suspicion that a lot of the discontent that has manifested itself here on these forums over the last couple of months is down to people simply being overly eager to finally get their hands on the game. People have voiced a lot of concerns regarding all kinds of different aspects of the game, a lot of them, quite honestly, rather ridiculous. And while some of the enquiries are undoubtedly legitimate and reasonable - and I would count wanting to see console footage in action among them - , I wonder if being worried about the state of the PS4/XBoxOne version is just a means of occupying yourself until Witcher 3 is finally released. I mean, it's human nature. The more we have to wait for something, the more our mind tends to play tricks on us, making us think: What could go wrong? Will it live up to expectations? What if ...? etc.pp.

I mean, there is hardly any rational basis for this apprehension. Yes, the consoles are not as powerful as a PC that fulfils High Settings requirements, but they are no slouch either, no matter what certain parts of the gaming community would have you believe. And remember, CDPR has accomplished to deliver a really good port of a technically extremely demanding game already. Yes, there were undeniable visible differences between Witcher 2 on Xbox 360 and its PC counterpart, but despite the necessary compromises that were made it was nontheless quite a feat, considering it was done on a far more outdated, inferior hardware system. Not only are the new consoles much stronger than their respective predecessors (the gap between PC and console right now is as close as it gets for the forseeable future) but Witcher 3 is developed for all three systems simultaniously.

Also, let's not forget that CDPR has a flawless track record when it comes to delivering the goods. So even if you have been burned in the past by certain developer's shady dealings, I think it's fair to say that CDPR more than deserves our trust based on their past work (innocent until proven guilty )

And yes, CDPR is a PC developer first and foremost, but they are definitely aware of the fact that the majority of people (probably about two thirds) will be buying this game for either PS4 or XBoxOne. I'm sure they give the console version the required attention. Hell, they have postponed Witcher 3 two times just to make sure that it is as polished, both graphically and performance-wise, as it possibly can be.

Also, there have been enough reports of journalists confirming that the PS4 version in particular does indeed look impressive to quell most doubts regarding Witcher 3's quality on consoles. And while I'm aware of the general distrust towards game journalism, it strikes me as downright paranoid to just dismiss these impressions from a wide range of different gaming outlets from all over the world. After all, such a consensus* of opinion doesn't happen too often and is - generally speaking - rather reliable.

Now, since we are all can agree upon the fact that despite CDPR's best efforts Witcher 3 on consoles naturally won't quite reach the visual splendor of the PC version on High Settings, what does this mean for people who initially planned to buy the game for PS4/XboxOne? Well, assuming the folks in question are die hard Witcher fans - a given if you are a regular on these forums - and will purchase the game no matter what, that leaves them basically with two options. Buy it for console and accept the fact that despite it being the most gorgeous game on the system there is a better looking version out there, or go with the PC version. Do you have a powerful enough machine to run the game on High Settings? Yes? Well, what are you waiting for? If not the case, Witcher 3 will in most likelihood look worse (speaking in relative terms of course) than on consoles. Now, another possibility would be to invest in a new PC. That is if you are willing (and financially able) to spend the necessary amount of money on a new rig. The thing is, no matter what your personal verdict of the console graphics will be once CDPR decides to show some footage, the options remain the same.

And if the later is not a viable alternative, well, then it doesn't really matter if or when CDPR gives us a glimpse at the console versions, does it? The game will look the way it will look, and there's not really anything you can do about it one way or another. Apart from just being content with a gorgeous game that is so much more than just its astonishing graphics.
Perhaps ask yourself: Are you really that "obsessed" with the visual fidelity of the game? And if so, why? Or, just maybe, is this you just getting disproportionately concerned with one singular aspect of the game because of the punishing waiting time?

*And yes, there have been a few dissenting voices, there always are, but unless one falls victim to a severe case of comfirmation bias those isolated naysayers shouldn't be given too much attention.

All this worry is just , because , remenber you what happen with watch dogs(I have played in my PS4) The magic word "downgrade" . All the gampelays , trailers ..... I love them(from the witcher 3 ) but I would hate If happen the same thing.

I mean that , show me the game on pc !o hell! it looks very great and after on PS4 is not as impressive. Yes , I am waiting this game since ever , its the GAME for me , open world , animations and combat system like hack and slash , Rpg, mature story, it has everything. But I say this too because they said shown the console footage soon , before to release. I trust in cd project but understood my lack of trust, this industry its totally corrupted today.

I gonna leave leave talk about this because I dont want be annoying guy,and remenber me in this thread for that doubt, I am very happy being part from this community:hatsoff:.

Eskerrik asko (Thank you in basque )

 

[Emalkin]

Digital Foundry said it's XBOX ONE.
And...this version has no tearing. The Novigrad version shown at E3 at Gamespot stage had a lot of tearing.


http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2014-the-witcher-3-tech-analysis

If that's true, it's a relief. Cause that demo looked pretty good, thought it was for PC.