Not played PL yet but surely V's fix is obvious?

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Ok so the relic is designed to wipe the brain and install the personality on it, so why not just copy V onto the relic and let the relic re-write her Silverhand-scrambled brain and install her own personality back into her brain?
 
Ok so the relic is designed to wipe the brain and install the personality on it, so why not just copy V onto the relic and let the relic re-write her Silverhand-scrambled brain and install her own personality back into her brain?

Because the fact the Relic even did that to begin with was basically a freak event. There are emails and whatnot you can read in the game where they try to get the relic to install an engram and, from what I remember, Arasaka kept failing or they kept having issues. So what happened with V is basically a bit of a conundrum that Arasaka haven’t figured out yet. If someone figured it out quickly enough, then yeah, maybe there’d be a solution I suppose. Alt sort of helps with the engram side of things, but couldn’t figure out the DNA problem.

TBH, there’s a bit of a plot hole in that V was given the relic blueprints, and the writers practically yell at the audience “YOU HAVE TO FIND AN EXPERT TO READ THIS NOW, WINK WINK”, but she never asked anyone to take a look :shrug:
 
I mean, this literally is one ending in the main game and it is explained quite clearly that your body is now only suitable for Johnny's brain and V will die within 6 months if they choose this.

Also there is the philisophical issue, which people have debated in this ending, which is that that is no longer V, as V will die and be essentially replaced with an AI operating as V.
 
I mean, this literally is one ending in the main game and it is explained quite clearly that your body is now only suitable for Johnny's brain and V will die within 6 months if they choose this.

Also there is the philisophical issue, which people have debated in this ending, which is that that is no longer V, as V will die and be essentially replaced with an AI operating as V.
But V being an AI is in every ending, Alt copies you, removes Johnny and puts her back in her old brain.

Plus if the relic can make Vs body 'Johnny ready' in a few days surely it can make Vs body 'V ready' within 6 months if Vs engram is put on the chip?

Surely Alt could do that?
 
But V being an AI is in every ending, Alt copies you, removes Johnny and puts her back in her old brain.

Plus if the relic can make Vs body 'Johnny ready' in a few days surely it can make Vs body 'V ready' within 6 months if Vs engram is put on the chip?

Surely Alt could do that?
From what I know, the Relic is a "one use" item and is unique (Araska only built one). Then V's brain is damaged and can no longer "work" without the Relic, so even if Johnny keep the body, the Relic stay in the head.

Beside, does Alt have access to a "new" Relic? No. Can she build a new Relic? No. So at the end, she can transfert V or Johnny in the body, but she's helpless for the body condition (which as reminder, stay quietly connected to the access point during the whole process).
 
But V being an AI is in every ending, Alt copies you, removes Johnny and puts her back in her old brain.

Plus if the relic can make Vs body 'Johnny ready' in a few days surely it can make Vs body 'V ready' within 6 months if Vs engram is put on the chip?

Surely Alt could do that?
As koalahugs already said, there's numerous shards in the game stating that all previous attempts at using the relic have resulted in the host body dying due to the body rejecting the engram. Possibly Alt could solve this issue, being a highly advanced AI, given enough time, but she could only do what she did because she was connected to mikoshi, what is she going to suggest, send Johnny back into V's body and hunker down inside Mikoshi for and indeterminate amount of time whilst Alt figures a way to make engram transfer work without a host body rejecting it? Even if this were somehow feasible, why would she want to do it? Alt only helps V at all because some part of her original self feels a connection to Johnny. I doubt she would be willing to go much further than she already did, given that the agreement was that she would implant V's psyche back I go their body and separate it from Silverhand in exchange for access to and destruction of Mikoshi.
 
Ok so the relic is designed to wipe the brain and install the personality on it, so why not just copy V onto the relic and let the relic re-write her Silverhand-scrambled brain and install her own personality back into her brain?

I think that's literally what Alt does, isn't it?

You get copied by her with Soulkiller and then get it put back on V's brain. However, the process is a lot more traumatic than it sounds and the Relic is damaged.

So it's not actually the fix it should be.

Probably because the relic is damaged by a bullet and your brain isn't exactly a very flexible organ.
 
there's numerous shards in the game stating that all previous attempts at using the relic have resulted in the host body dying due to the body rejecting the engram.
Yet Saburo got installed in Yarinobu without any issues, so the tech Arasaka has is perfected already
 
The main story is bad, for some reason the brain is being altered genetically, which.. well memories don't have shit to do with the genetic code, nor does most of the brain structure. that after being shot it is trying to repair the brain with what is on the relic? sure, is what the advanced prototype relic is meant to do.

the genetic stuff only makes sense in a "how do we make this terminal" hole the writers found in the plot.
 
Yet Saburo got installed in Yarinobu without any issues, so the tech Arasaka has is perfected already
Yes, but only after studying and digging into V's head. Without V, Arasaka probably never achieve it :)
(also Yorinobu body/brain condition were fine, while V's head/body was a mess^^)
 
Yet Saburo got installed in Yarinobu without any issues, so the tech Arasaka has is perfected already

Yes, because it turns out u need to be a blood relative for it works.

Which makes me wonder if they're implying V is Johnny's grandkid.
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The main story is bad, for some reason the brain is being altered genetically, which.. well memories don't have shit to do with the genetic code, nor does most of the brain structure. that after being shot it is trying to repair the brain with what is on the relic? sure, is what the advanced prototype relic is meant to do.

the genetic stuff only makes sense in a "how do we make this terminal" hole the writers found in the plot.

I mean, it's very easy to make something fatal and incurable in RL. So it works that way is fine because they're the ones who came up with how it works.
 
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