Another thing. This just can't be No Man's Land. Have you guys ever seen how war zone terrain looks? Mechanical and fire damage must be everywhere, because 6 months are not close enough to hide all traces in new greenery. The land should look scorched, and devastated, not perfect trees on a parade.
Is that so?TucoBenedicto said:
I, for one, unapologetically expect seaport capitals to be bigger and more sprawling than that. What's shown strikes me as the perfect size for Oxenfurt.
I wouldn't mind that - within reason of course. I was not and am not expecting TW3 to travel the same route SKyrim did in this regard.
Not sure I quite understand the bitching. We already know that the Witcher 3, while a huge open world, will not be a 1:1 scale of the Witcherverse. We know going in that, being 20% larger than Skyrim is huge, but not huge enough to cover an enormous city the size of anything in Assassin's Creed with any sense of detail. And lastly, that screenshot shows a city that is STILL many times larger than anything in the last three Elder Scrolls games. CDPR has given us nothing but the best since W1, and this sort of pre-mature complaining of what will likely be the most amazing RPG we've collectively ever played is very hard for me to understand....so much so that I felt the need for this post apparently.
This is why you show pre-Alpha only behind closed doors.
Agnieszka tweeted that city in trailer is not Novigrad. So keep calm and stop spamming.
Agnieszka tweeted that city in trailer is not Novigrad. So keep calm and stop spamming.
I could fit twelve brothels and four watermills on ONE BLOCK of a city that size. What they hell are you people talking about?
Not only is that a large city, but you can't even see the other side from that shot. There is room for 100+ buildings on an island that size.
Above all else, I can't believe THAT is being compared to cities in Skyrim. Are you serious? As far as square footage maybe you could argue that the city isn't spread out much. However, as far as buildings/people. You could house and work all the residents of Skyrim in that city.
I'm sorry but I really don't understand how that is small.
Not only is that a large city, but you can't even see the other side from that shot. There is room for 100+ buildings on an island that size.
Above all else, I can't believe THAT is being compared to cities in Skyrim. Are you serious? As far as square footage maybe you could argue that the city isn't spread out much. However, as far as buildings/people. You could house and work all the residents of Skyrim in that city.
I'm sorry but I really don't understand how that is small.
It is not?DukeAlmighty said:
Good to hear.There seem to be different opinion as to what she actually meant.
Novigrad was never shown behind closed doors. This discussion is based entirely on gameplay footage made public and on a few public tweets, so I really fail to see what you mean. Also, you might want to check what spamming is.
Some people really don't get the difference between complaining and giving feedback. That city simply does not look like Novigrad. Most importantly, it's missing city walls, secondly the city itself is supposed to be one of the biggest in The Witcher universe, even downscaled it should be a bit bigger.
In TW1, the game was not open world so CDPR could afford to block off parts of Vizima to the player. Now that they've decided to go open world AND show us one of the biggest cities in the Northern Kingdoms, they need something more impressive than what is shown in the screenshot.
@AngelOfPassion If you included all the building described in the books that means around 120-150 buildings that are not houses for the residents, as well as a castle, a guard tower and city walls. Looking at that tiny city, the building are maybe enough to accomodate all of that, but then you wouldn't be able to place the houses, which need to be much more than the amount of commercial buildings in the city. We are, after all, talking about a population of 30k+ people.
Now, for comparison, this is a picture of the village I grew up in:
It supports 600+ people.
Now, I can see that roughly filling up the part of Novigrad, without the area with several towers coming out of it (I assume that's the castle). Keep in mind that the picture I've provided is that of a village, it consists mostly of homes, not commercial buildings. This is why I believe, that the amount of buildings shown in the screenshot might be enough to support a decently sized population (for a heavily downscaled game world, anyway) but that settlement needs to grow nearly twice that size to really give the illusion of a big, important city.
It's really hard for me to believe that the screenshot really is that of Novigrad, especially considering some missing features (again, the city walls being the most notable omission). I mean, it's CDPR, the last thing I expect from them is to mess up their lore.
In TW1, the game was not open world so CDPR could afford to block off parts of Vizima to the player. Now that they've decided to go open world AND show us one of the biggest cities in the Northern Kingdoms, they need something more impressive than what is shown in the screenshot.
@AngelOfPassion If you included all the building described in the books that means around 120-150 buildings that are not houses for the residents, as well as a castle, a guard tower and city walls. Looking at that tiny city, the building are maybe enough to accomodate all of that, but then you wouldn't be able to place the houses, which need to be much more than the amount of commercial buildings in the city. We are, after all, talking about a population of 30k+ people.
Now, for comparison, this is a picture of the village I grew up in:
It supports 600+ people.
Now, I can see that roughly filling up the part of Novigrad, without the area with several towers coming out of it (I assume that's the castle). Keep in mind that the picture I've provided is that of a village, it consists mostly of homes, not commercial buildings. This is why I believe, that the amount of buildings shown in the screenshot might be enough to support a decently sized population (for a heavily downscaled game world, anyway) but that settlement needs to grow nearly twice that size to really give the illusion of a big, important city.
It's really hard for me to believe that the screenshot really is that of Novigrad, especially considering some missing features (again, the city walls being the most notable omission). I mean, it's CDPR, the last thing I expect from them is to mess up their lore.
well, to be honest i also can't really believe that the city on that island is novigrad. though it definately already seems larger than anythign skyrim has seen it still lacks some feeling of vastness. also looks more like a city in the middle of a river and not like a large sea port. just remember there should be scenes like these:
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http://conceptartworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Witcher_3_Concept_Art_10.jpg
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any one noticed two horse riders on the right under the letter "O" in World ?
with that scale the city seems to be really big !!
with that scale the city seems to be really big !!
Well the picture is taken from game trailer and like some one mentioned already the game is still in alpha, we just have to wait and see.ReptilePZ said: