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Now that the only Tier 1 ST leader is butchered, I hope CDPR is happy, content and rests in peace

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MO and SK had been (and still is) Tier 1 and dominating factions from the beginning. After more than 8 months, MO has been made a little weak (and is still dominant in Pro Rank) and SK is still super strong. When Eithnè became strong for the first time, challenging SK and MO, it has been butchered. Let's just see how cruelly ST was treated.

Eithné provisions reduced and all the cards she used was increased in provisions (Regis:BL, Ifrit, Sheldon) or reduced in power (Knight, Sirissa). The neutral control cards nerfs alone would have sufficed and reduced Eithnè's power. But no, she has to be nerfed and Faction specific cards were also nerfed. So, it is a six way nerf for her. The result? Spyro tried Eithnè and checked if she was still viable. After multiple attempts and saying "If I am losing one more game, I will quit" and guess what? He lost and switched faction.

While the control was too much and horrible and deserved nerf, neutral nerfs alone should have controlled the control.

Eithné and her faction cards should have been left alone so that she still had a fighting chance to be strong. Why does CDPR hate ST this much? Seriously was Sirissa nerf even needed? She was the only ST card who *could* break even (I have played her for 6 points many times) and she was also nerfed.

I tend to believe that if an ST deck becomes a little popular in pro rank, there will be a red bulb and a loud alarm will play in CDPR office so that they immediately have to nerf the hell out of that deck.

Now, let's see the treatment SK got. Bran and Coral got nerfed and to compensate for that there was a looooong list of buffs. Svalblod was given so many buffs, provision buff for him and most of his core cards were buffed. The priest buff was not even necessary (he was already good) and now the only way to kill him is with a tall unit removal. Shieldmaiden gave him another 2 provisions.

It is like CDPR wants everyone (at least the pro players) to quit playing ST. Someone asked the question "Why would CDPR want to make a faction weak? They will see all the factions equally and neutrally". But most of their actions doesn't seem to indicate that way. Someone extremely influential hates ST to the core. When Brouver became prominent in pro ladder, he was nerfed in provisions. So, according to CDPR, there is not a single leader in SK who is stronger than Brouver??? And yet, in any pro streamers we only see SK or MO and never see a Brouver.

Just think about it. ST has never had two consecutive months presence in pro ladder. If it becomes prevalent, it just gets nerfed. But MO and SK can be (and is and will be) most prevalent and dominant in Pro ladders and CDPR just gives a blind eye to them.

Also, another food for thought. When ever SK leader gets nerfed, another SK leader will get buffed. When Harald was nerfed, Bran was buffed, When Bran was nerfed, Harald gets buffed (in fact, I predicted that this would happen. I mentioned in an old Post that when Bran gets nerfed I was afraid that Harald would be buffed). When Birna was nerfed, Coral was given a God mode. When Coral was nerfed again, a whole bunch of cards gets buffed.

Ok.. ranted enough for one post. More to come till ST gets a just treatment.
 
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Totally agree with you rrc as a fellow hardcore ST main. I'm really triggered that the first faction to over-nerf with supersonic speed is Scoia and this $hit is happening since closed beta.

In a more general note, aside from traps, Scoia has lost so much of its bamboozle flavor in homecoming with the buff this and damage that only "archetype".
 
Ok so I was tired trying to make NG work, so just tried a couple of games with my Brouver.

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No problem. ST are still the more versatile faction, lot of controls, carryovers and nice engines. ST nerfs were logical, Skaggs nerf is not even a nerf. I think you are too focused on ST and not very objective.

An appropriate rant would be against that so called "Nilfgaard update". Not much better than a week ago, except that Alba pikeman (not very original, just copy stuff from NR).
 
Ok so I was tired trying to make NG work, so just tried a couple of games with my Brouver.

No problem. ST are still the more versatile faction, lot of controls, carryovers and nice engines. ST nerfs were logical, Skaggs nerf is not even a nerf. I think you are too focused on ST and not very objective.

An appropriate rant would be against that so called "Nilfgaard update". Not much better than a week ago, except that Alba pikeman (not very original, just copy stuff from NR).
I didn't say that ST is not playable. Brouver with the traps & movement package is great. Fila handbuff, although too boring for my tastes is good too. The Dana harmony / engine decks are ok. I don't understand the nerf to Eithne and Sirssa though. As rcc wrote, the huge problem was the cheap neutral removal which was almost in every deck, not just in Eithne's.

As for the NG update, I think that with all these bronze card changes even the shittiest NG leader is more playable now. Plus NG has still the most unique card effects in its golds and leaders. Don't tell me that Ardal isn't good and almost op against most engine decks out there.
 
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RED Points: rrc
You are a bit too early yelling wolf, when the meta has not yet manifested itself. Here is the actual pro ladder list https://masters.playgwent.com/en/rankings/pro-rank/season-12
From the top 20 players, we can barely tell what the best faction is, as all factions seems to be playable.

From what I have experienced, playing NR from rank 5 to 2 is that I saw much more Eithne that Woodland, and that was kinda surprising for a change. With engines finally being playable again, control will take its place in the meta and so will Eithne or control NG see more play, depending which of these two are most competitive (ST defenitly stands a better chance here). Regarding Woodland, SK or NG; NR still has an upper edge with Henselt. Thus, control will still be needed in the current meta.

Although you (RRC) are right by pointing out that ST lacks behind in terms of value/pointlam on the same competitive level as monsters or SK (and maybe NG?).

Also, does anyone else thinks that MO deserves a buff? Its basically the last faction I want to play at this moment, despite the fact that I've been playing the faction all but the last two seasons. (Last season was pretty enjoyable wrecking big woodland with dethblow (value) Eithne).

As RRC is pointing out the weakness in ST by citing a streamer, I will cite another streamer in my defense as well, who considers the monsters to be weak.
 
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I still try to use Eithne (currenctly at rank 4). She isn't doing quite as well as I remember.

My biggest issue is Eithne herself. 4 single arrows seems really really weak compared to the huge finishers and such from the other leaders. At least give her one more arrow.
 
RED Points: rrc
You're already preaching to the converted here. I believe the intention is that NR and ST must be weaker than the other three. I would like to see the witchers receive significant boosts in every way. Geralt should be in every players deck apart from Monsters, obviously. Or something like GERALT (deathwish:Random card) Boost an opponents card by Geralts provision cost. So that MO could still use Geralt but, it will boost an opponents card as a result. Lore dictates Geralt shouldn't be in a MO faction, period. If Geralt is in any of the other factions (not mosnters) then the cards deathwish is not triggered.

As for the state of play for ST. Yeh the devs don't like ST getting too much success as it will upset all the SK and NG/MO players. Having said all that. Blancing this game is a nightmare and it's constantly changing.

Give all the cards more points!
 
I constructed a Brouver deck and only lost 1/10 games with it, and the only traps it has are 2x Crushing Trap. I think the element of surprise is under appreciated. If you can go against what’s expected but still pack a punch, it can do wonders. You can see my yt channel for more details on the deck but it’s done me well.
 
Seems like the Nilfgaard update was all about Anna. I think Anna now is quite probably a tier 1 leader, having all Nilfgaard changes adapted to her playstyles and decktypes.

Looking into the season start pro-rankings, there are alot more Nilfgaard decks there than expected. Is this due to Anna? Are these Anna decks? Not sure, but I can't imagine that many of them are the other leaders.

BTW. Same rankings showed more ST decks up there than has been the case previous seasons. But yeah, it's season start, it might change towards the end of the season, let's see.