•Are expansion quests & enemies going to scale on basis of player level?

[GW3NTLORD]

•Are expansion quests & enemies going to scale on basis of player level?

I am just curious that what level expansion quest & enemies going to be ?? as CDPR introduced NG+ game but not everyone is going to play that mode as its just a repeated game play with high difficulty but as par I know NG+ is also increasing player level so in the end which players are not going to play NG+ are on level 33 to 38 i think & those who are playing NG+ are on almost 70+

So I am just asking how CDPR is going to handle different level players in coming expansion packs ? IS CDPR going to reset player levels or Quest & enemies going to scale as par player level ?

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Ohh I have one more question is playing NG+ is important to play coming expansions ? I mean is it important that we have to reach some level to play expansions ?


P.S. If you don't understand what exactly I want to ask then try to read post No. #17 on 2nd page which is little in depth

 

[Kad_Venku]

If I got the scarce news about the expansions right at least "Hearts of Stone" will be integrated into the main storyline's time frame (Not to be misunderstood: There is no information whether it will be part of the main story)
So I assume it will be scaled around either Nowigrad's pre-Skellige quest levels or around the second open phase after Ugly Baby and follow up quests.

So HoS will be scaled to fit into the particular spot it takes place.

And Marcin (I think) posted somewhere that NG+ is an optional feature entirely, so you don't need play it at all.

 

[GW3NTLORD]

NG+ is an optional feature entirely

Ya I know that & that's why I am curious that if Expansion quests are at very high level considering NG+ end levels then its really hard for players which not playing NG+ & If Expansion quests are based on normal game then its too easy for the players who have completed NG+ as they are on very high level & That's why I am asking what exactly CDPR is planning about expansion quest levels ?

As you are saying "I assume it will be scaled around either Nowigrad's pre-Skellige quest levels or around the second open phase after Ugly Baby and follow up quests." may be its going to be like that but still my question remains unanswered as I am talking about different levels of players due to NG+ so its really not matters where they going to add expansions but what levels quests are going to be in expansion is important. Are they going to scale as par player level ? OR Are CDPR going to reset all player levels? OR Is it necessary for us to achieve some level to play Expansions ?

 

[moonknightgog]

I hope not.
I think the expansions will have a proper level, setted around the third act.

 

[GW3NTLORD]

I hope not.
I think the expansions will have a proper level, setted around the third act.

Sorry but what you are hoping ?? & IF its settled around third act then you are saying its going to be 30 to 35 level quests ?? then what about players who have completed NG+ & on very high level for expansions quests ? Are all quests going to be grayed out for them & no xp ???

 

[Rawls]

I'm not sure I understand your question. Are you worried that the player would be over leveled in NG+ if the quests are 30-35 in the regular game? Level 30 to 35 quests in the regular game are level 60 to 65 quests in NG+.

 

[GW3NTLORD]

I'm not sure I understand your question. Are you worried that the player would be over leveled in NG+ if the quests are 30-35 in the regular game? Level 30 to 35 quests in the regular game are level 60 to 65 quests in NG+.

Nope dear.. I am talking about coming expansion for witcher 3 & what level quests are going to be in expansions ? As CDPR is introduced NG+ game & NG+ is increasing player levels too but its not a compulsory mode as its just a same game with high difficulty so not everyone going to be play that mode but the problem is those who are not going to play NG+ mode are going to settled on 33 to 38 level but those who are going for NG+ are going to cross 65+ levels so I am asking how cdpr going to handle expansion quests due to different levels of players.

Read here about the expansions...

http://forums.cdprojektred.com/threads/34568-Hearts-of-Stone-amp-Blood-and-Wine-two-massive-expansions-for-The-Witcher-3-Wild-Hunt

So i am curious that If expansion quests levels are around 25 to 35 then it must be all grayed out quests for all those who completed NG+ & are on 65+ levels so there is no fun to play expansion & If expansion quests levels are 65+ level high then its necessary for us to play NG+ to reach that level as other wise those quests are out of our level.

So I am asking what CDPR is going to do about it ?? & I have questions like...

Are CDPR going to reset all player level to same level ?
Are expansion quests going to scale auto as par player levels ?
Is playing NG+ mode is necessary to play coming Expansions ? OR
Is CDPR going to change player levels either from low to high or High to low ?? I mean from 35 to 70 or 70 to 35 etc.

 

[Rawls]

I mean I would assume (dangerous I know) they could code it to work just like the rest of the quests. If your in regular game, the heart of stone expansion would be labeled at level 28 quest (I just picked a number). If you choose to play NG+, the quest level would just increase to 58.

 

[GW3NTLORD]

I mean I would assume (dangerous I know) they could code it to work just like the rest of the quests. If your in regular game, the heart of stone expansion would be labeled at level 28 quest (I just picked a number). If you choose to play NG+, the quest level would just increase to 58.

Ok that means you are saying expansions quest levels are going to scale auto as par player levels right ?? & how much percentage you are sure about it ?

 

[Pug.]

I mean I would assume (dangerous I know) they could code it to work just like the rest of the quests. If your in regular game, the heart of stone expansion would be labeled at level 28 quest (I just picked a number). If you choose to play NG+, the quest level would just increase to 58.

That makes the most sense, otherwise one of the two groups is going to be SOL.

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Ok that means you are saying expansions quest levels are going to scale auto as par player levels right ?? & how much percentage you are sure about it ?

Pretty sure we are all just speculating here. CDPR has not come out and said anything definitive about level requirements for the expansions. I'm going to wait until October before I decide to do a NG+ run, just to be on the safe side.

 

[GW3NTLORD]

Pretty sure we are all just speculating here. CDPR has not come out and said anything definitive about level requirements for the expansions. I'm going to wait until October before I decide to do a NG+ run, just to be on the safe side.

Ya that's true but still if I completed NG+ but what if I want to play expansion on normal game as I don't want NG+ game difficulty for expansion quests ???

 

[Rawls]

Ok that means you are saying expansions quest levels are going to scale auto as par player levels right ?? & how much percentage you are sure about it ?

Like @sevean said, it's just speculation on my part ... but it seems like the logical way to handle it. I can't give you a percentage as I am not privy to the internal discussions at CDPR.

 

[GW3NTLORD]

Like @sevean said, it's just speculation on my part ... but it seems like the logical way to handle it. I can't give you a percentage as I am not privy to the internal discussions at CDPR.

hehehe ya I know that bro. I just asked because I thought you have read it somewhere so actually I was trying to ask that do you have read it somewhere or its just a speculation? & I got my answer

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I am just asking this because I don't want to wait or go for NG+ after CDPR going to release the Expansions & As I saw in witcher 3 levels are really important for quests so I am little curious about it.

 

[moonknightgog]

Sorry but what you are hoping ?? & IF its settled around third act then you are saying its going to be 30 to 35 level quests ?? then what about players who have completed NG+ & on very high level for expansions quests ? Are all quests going to be grayed out for them & no xp ???

Exactly. And New Vegas works in that way.

 

[Kad_Venku]

As you are saying "I assume it will be scaled around either Nowigrad's pre-Skellige quest levels or around the second open phase after Ugly Baby and follow up quests." may be its going to be like that but still my question remains unanswered as I am talking about different levels of players due to NG+ so its really not matters where they going to add expansions but what levels quests are going to be in expansion is important. Are they going to scale as par player level ? OR Are CDPR going to reset all player levels? OR Is it necessary for us to achieve some level to play Expansions ?

Probably I was a bit misleading. What I tried to say was the canon I get from all other posts here as well. The HoS expansion will most likely be scaled around the range I gave above, which is about level 12-20 in normal game and don't ask me for NG+.
And if I say they are integrating it into the main quest's time line I mean exactly that. It's very likely to be meant to be played at that level. As all quest related content in this game is static I would place a bet on the expansions not scaling as well, but having two level versions one for the normal game one for NG+ as all other quests now have as well. So to be even more precise. Resetting the player level or anything similar for HoS makes no sense and is highly unlikely. It's "only" a large quest line in Oxenfurt after all.

With Blood and Wine that might be another story, but you probably need some patience for information about that.
Hope that made it clearer.

 

[Riven-Twain]

If this helps any:

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2015-07-10-two-witcher-3-expansions-combine-to-equal-roughly-the-witcher-2-in-length

As of May, there was still uncertainty, but this was the potential:

Both expansions will be standalone - exist separately to the main story of The Witcher 3 - and "probably" for high level characters. "We didn't decide on this yet," Mateusz Tomaszkiewicz, lead quest designer - and Konrad's brother - told me. "But taking into consideration it's an expansion pack, we will probably go with this approach."

('Paragraph' 6).

Beyond that, we still have to wait.

As to this question:

I am just asking this because I don't want to wait or go for NG+ after CDPR going to release the Expansions & As I saw in witcher 3 levels are really important for quests so I am little curious about it.

https://twitter.com/Marcin360/with_replies

 

[GW3NTLORD]

@riven ll - See again its confusing at least for me as your 1st quote says "Both expansions will be standalone - exist separately to the main story of The Witcher 3 - and "probably" for high level characters." which if true then players have to complete NG+ mode to reach that high level so that's what I am asking.

About your 2nd quote yes I know we can play expansions on NG as well as NG+ mode that's not a issue here but the issue is about player level & about expansion quest levels.

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I don't know but as English is not my native language it looks like I am failing to explain what exactly I want to say or ask so let me try again...

1st what this is not about & what I know...
1] I know this that we can play coming expansions on NG as well as NG+ mode
2] I am not asking CDPR or anyone here about release date of expansions or not requesting to release expansions early.

Ok so now what exactly I am asking about?
As you know Witcher 3 have two modes now NG & NG+ & NG+ mode is not compulsory to play for now as its just a same gameplay with higher difficulty as nothing new in it. Yes but player levels are increasing in NG+ mode so the problem is those who are only completed NG mode are ended up with around 35 level but those who are going to complete NG+ mode are going to end up with around 70+ level so my concern is...

1] Are CDPR going to scale expansions quest levels as par player levels ? no matter they are on 35, 50 or 70 ? OR
2] Are CDPR going to reset the all player levels at some number like 50 or 60 so that expansion quests levels going to mach player levels ? OR
3] Are CDPR going to set any restrictions on player level to play expansions like we have to reach some level like 50 or 70

As there are so many other things too we have to take care of like...
1] What if I am in NG+ mode game but I want to play expansions on NG mode then how to change game mode from Ng+ to NG ?
2] Even if they give us facility to change mode in setting then what about our high level which we reach by completing NG+ mode is that going to reset to 35 if we change the game mode ?
3] What about the players who started NG+ mode but not completed & are on level 40 to 60 ??
& may be there are other possibilities too..

So the main question of this thread is what is the perfect point or level for our character to enjoy expansions properly ? as I don't want to be at high level so that all expansion quests are going to feels like a joke & not going to give me any xp points as well I don't want to play NG+ mode later when CDPR going to release expansions & we going to realize that it require players to have Level 70+ so don't you think its good if we know more about expansions requirement now so that we can prepare our self for it now rather than crying later ??

Please read my points carefully & I hope you understand what exactly I want to say & If still you don't understand then I am really sorry & I hope some one who understand my point with good English going to explain it for me

Thanks.

 

[Riven-Twain]

Please read my points carefully & I hope you understand what exactly I want to say & If still you don't understand then I am really sorry & I hope some one who understand my point with good English going to explain it for me

Thanks.

Thank you. You've expressed your concern very thoroughly. However, sadly, what limited information we have from official sources at this point is still imprecise, and, lacking any further information, unfortunately, there is no answer to your question yet available. I suggest, if you must have an answer before the release of the Expansions, contacting @Marcin Momot directly, and asking him to clarify. Given that the first Expansion will appear in October, and we should have more details closer to release, I advise waiting. Until that time, or if a RED Team member responds to this thread, everything else here will remain pure speculation. My apologies we can't be more help.

 

[GW3NTLORD]

However, sadly, what limited information we have from official sources at this point is still imprecise, and, lacking any further information, unfortunately, there is no answer to your question yet available. I suggest, if you must have an answer before the release of the Expansions, contacting @Marcin Momot directly, and asking him to clarify. Given that the first Expansion will appear in October, and we should have more details closer to release, I advise waiting.

Thanks & Yes I know there is not official announcement yet so we have to wait but that's the problem as you know September is going on & If they release 1st expansion in October which is next month & If there is a 70+ level requirement then I really don't want to play NG+ that time as well if they reset all player level to around 35 then there is no meaning of playing NG+ mode as all our gained levels, armor, weapons are going to be waste so I hope we will get some news on this soon.

Thanks for your help.

 

[SHARKAN]

You can always use mods that fix this issue if lvls of new Quests are gonna be grey.