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GuyNwah

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#601
Dec 6, 2014
AboundingTbone said:
You're making us seem like we want a super photo-realistic product, when all we want is to not be fucked by video game companies anymore.
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I neither need not want photorealism. "Photorealism" is to my thinking an excuse for not doing art and a buzzword that viewers have been led to believe is something they want. I want fantastical, I want surrealist. I've already listed some ways in which the trailer falls short in ordinary mechanics and execution of art.

And if this is what constitutes being "fucked by a video game company", there are many much worse disappointments in store.
 
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JackalJ

Senior user
#602
Dec 6, 2014
Riordan1 said:
If I want opinion or first impressions I go to youtube to watch few guys I trust, TotalBiscuit does incredible job with his PortReport series, but unfortunately he wont be doing videos for Witcher 3, because GoG is sponsoring his SC2 team :(
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That and he doesn't sink his time in a big RPG (or MMO) anymore. OR was that only with his WTF is video's? (Can't remember if he also skipped on RPG's with his port report) Because TB is one of the only ones who I still trust as a 'journalist'/reviewer.
 
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AboundingTbone

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#603
Dec 6, 2014
Guy N'wah said:
I neither need not want photorealism. "Photorealism" is to my thinking an excuse for not doing art and a buzzword that viewers have been led to believe is something they want. I want fantastical, I want surrealist. I've already listed some ways in which the trailer falls short in ordinary mechanics and execution of art.

And if this is what constitutes being "fucked by a video game company", there are many much worse disappointments in store.
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Yes, sorry, the point of my post was that I, quite frankly, don't give a damn about video game graphics. I play Dwarf Fort every other day. We're worried that CDPR is following the lead of these other developers. You're right, though, in that photo-realism is a buzzword. Style is infinitely better than a completely realistic product. E.g. Okami and Bayonetta.
 
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SageFox.326

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#604
Dec 6, 2014
AboundingTbone said:
Guy, I don't see how what I said was an issue. I simply said that I'm glad that he is able to see it, but I sure can't. What exactly is wrong with that? Thanks.

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Maybe you should go to sleep :p You've been here for a while.
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i didn't see any problem with your comment neither :S
 
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-Alligator-

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#605
Dec 6, 2014
Guy N'wah said:
I neither need not want photorealism. "Photorealism" is to my thinking an excuse for not doing art and a buzzword that viewers have been led to believe is something they want. I want fantastical, I want surrealist. I've already listed some ways in which the trailer falls short in ordinary mechanics and execution of art.

And if this is what constitutes being "fucked by a video game company", there are many much worse disappointments in store.
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I think the main concern here is that the textures look low-res, and not that they should look more "photorealistic".
 
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Zabanzo

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#606
Dec 6, 2014
jackalj said:
That and he doesn't sink his time in a big RPG (or MMO) anymore. OR was that only with his WTF is video's? (Can't remember if he also skipped on RPG's with his port report) Because TB is one of the only ones who I still trust as a 'journalist'/reviewer.
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Well he did Port Report for DA:I.
 
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octavian123

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#607
Dec 6, 2014
AboundingTbone said:
Yes, sorry, the point of my post was that I, quite frankly, don't give a damn about video game graphics. I play Dwarf Fort every other day. We're worried that CDPR is following the lead of these other developers. You're right, though, in that photo-realism is a buzzword. Style is infinitely better than a completely realistic product. E.g. Okami and Bayonetta.
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It really depends on what the game wants to convey. The fuzzy and deliberately blocky graphics of Minecraft give it lots of charm as do the cartoony graphics of WoW but The Witcher is a game that treats fantasy in a realistic manner and this is why photorealism suits it.
 
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dasega

Senior user
#608
Dec 6, 2014
Yurtex said:
No reflections, do you even know what are you talking about, there are specular maps, but full reflections in the game to render real-time, not in this era of gaming we won't see it, not only in witcher.
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Stop bragging and educate yourself before posting anything on this forum.
http://www.blasterzone.ro/metal-gear-solid-5-ground-zeroes-comparatie-pc-vs-ps4/
 
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SeasonedWitcher

Senior user
#609
Dec 6, 2014
I guess by "shortly" must have meant next week.
 
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GuyNwah

Ex-moderator
#610
Dec 6, 2014
-alligator- said:
I think the main concern here is that the textures look low-res, and not that they should look more "photorealistic".
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But the textures don't, at their best, look low-res. The best, like Yennefers's outfit, are exquisitely detailed. This means it isn't the engine, or the choice of resolution, or any intentional downgrade. What it means is there are too many textures, particle effects, and so forth that weren't well executed. That concerns me to a degree that rumors about a conspiracy to downgrade product for consoles do not.

I think the show did a disservice to most of the games with first-class artwork, with obvious compression artifacts and other faults. I wouldn't be surprised if it was gone in two years.
 
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Doctalen

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#611
Dec 6, 2014
dasega said:
Stop bragging and educate yourself before posting anything on this forum.
http://www.blasterzone.ro/metal-gear-solid-5-ground-zeroes-comparatie-pc-vs-ps4/
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FOX <3

seasonedwitcher said:
I guess by "shortly" must have meant next week.
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I'd rather them take their time to actually improve this thing if that's what it takes. In this case I don't mind the fact it isn't instantly uploaded. Maybe it means it's not just a bit higher bitrate
 
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SageFox.326

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#612
Dec 6, 2014
Guy N'wah said:
But the textures don't, at their best, look low-res. The best, like Yennefers's outfit, are exquisitely detailed. This means it isn't the engine, or the choice of resolution, or any intentional downgrade. What it means is there are too many textures, particle effects, and so forth that weren't well executed. That concerns me to a degree that rumors about a conspiracy to downgrade product for consoles do not.

I think the show did a disservice to most of the games with first-class artwork, with obvious compression artifacts.
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I don't see a downgrade, but there is no conspiracy, downgrade did happen on other games. this is a "watchdogs effect".
 
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tihomirr

Senior user
#613
Dec 6, 2014
blackgriffin said:
Off-topic: been away from the forum for a month or so....when was it confirmed they gave up on PC-specific UI?
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It hasn't. The whole talk abaut UI is a consequence of the alleged downgrade shitstorm that has transfered to other aspects of the game.
 
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dasega

Senior user
#614
Dec 6, 2014
Lets hope what we have seen it's console version or low/mid pc setting. Anyway CDPR you still got my trust.
 
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B_l_a_d_y

Rookie
#615
Dec 6, 2014
Holy shit guys !!11
game isn't downgraded in any way it's only looks worse but not downgraded xD
 
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SageFox.326

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#616
Dec 6, 2014
b l a d y said:
holy shit guys !!11
game isn't downgraded in any way it's only looks worse but not downgraded xd
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lol
 
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AboundingTbone

Rookie
#617
Dec 6, 2014
B l a d y said:
Holy shit guys !!11
game isn't downgraded in any way it's only looks worse but not downgraded xD
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Come on now. I'm the OP of this thread, but let's keep this conversation to a level that's relatively intelligent.
 
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LadKakashi

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#618
Dec 6, 2014
Guys talking about the trailer to be on the console version is absurd these textures are too old and crappy even for the old gen consoles ?! anyone can see that
 
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DBag

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#619
Dec 6, 2014
thothistox said:
I think people's expectations for the graphics are too high.
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To be fair, this is mostly CDPR's doing. Early trailers, screenshots and PR talk like "crowning achievement" "stunning visuals" are the reason why people's expectations for graphics are high (earlier materials were vastly superior to what we see right now, imo). The current shit storm would not have taken place, had CDPR released materials with the current graphic fidelity - from the start.
Also, not addressing this particular concern, given all the confusion surrounding it, is part of the problem.
 
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BroccoliSouP

Senior user
#620
Dec 6, 2014
My last post in this thread. Seriously. What will knowledge about what is happening change the result? Nothing. Just wait for release, read reviews, look at videos and buy the game or not. Simple as that. Now stop the goddamn witchhunt and wait it out. It is only 2 months and half. Internet has always pitchforks ready it seems. Bye thread.
 
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