This shot has no blur in it, thats what Im talking about...
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Its just one model mate, look at Ciri for example, she still the same as in previous trailers. Or Yen.Sorry, but to all ppl that say "No downgrade, it's just the video compression", that's bull.
I watched the 3gb trailer, and here's a screencap from it (found on DSoG) - please click for the full size and view at 1:1 zoom:
Its just one model mate, look at Ciri for example, she still the same as in previous trailers. Or Yen.
It's very obvious that these are no compression artifacts. Clean edges, smooth textures without blockiness, the video quality is very good. The texture quality in game though, is atrocious.
I' m no tech expert, and I really hope you' re right about this one
I see it. Could be, would make sense. Awaiting some info on this from the community managers. Details like this are needed to stop spreading all the bull rumours.
Laughs........yeah, right, because all the fans talking about a downgrade and false advertising is funny to developers who wants to sell.
Getting back to the topic...... the bad textures on the Wild Hunt are some frost effect above the model textures that are right.
Im no tech expert eitherI' m no tech expert, and I really hope you' re right about this one
Its the only logical explanation I came up with, so lets hope Im right.Attachments
Dunno that sort of thing is beyond me. I've mainly been watching some of the behind the scene vids.
Exactly right. The phrase "don't care" is used all over software and hardware engineering and it usually means that a particular kind of control flow is not executed or a particular value is never read in a particular case.
(This reminds me of the "climategate conspiracy" where use of the word "trick" in an email caused a stir among a whole lot of journalists ignorant of the fact that the phrase is used by mathematicians all the time and has nothing to do with deceiving anyone.)
It has. But I don't know any great looking open world game that hasn't. Unity isn't perfect, don't get me wrong here. But it's also still very good looking and we just should be careful to call "bad optimization" and stuff if we don't know a lot of that ourselves (which means if we don't have solid (!!!) proof for the claim or if we are experienced graphics programmers who worked on next-gen graphics before).
I personally don't know a single "perfect" game engine tbh. They all have their pros and cons. The games with the least technical flaws are in most cases pretty linear games with linear levels and predefined/scripted events (like Crysis, Metro, Battlefield and so on). It's a whole different beast to make an open world game with huge sceneries and it's also a whole different beast if you want to le a lot of what happens on space be randomly calculated instead of being scripted. Like there ARE texture pop-ins in Unity and stuff like NPCs popping up in the far distance. But at the same time no other game before managed to render that many well modeled and textured and even animated NPCs on screen at the same time. So how do you know that it's "badly optimized" if you just lack any comparison and if you don't know every detail of the graphics engine to the teeth? Well, I'd say you probably don't. It's quite easy to dimiss devs for some obvious technical weaknesses but nobody's perfect and both hardware and software are still both pretty limited. So IMHO we should a little bit less aggressive or even arrogant here and sometimes we should acknowledge that games have some gorgeous graphics with a lot of work involved although they probably are far from perfect.
If Witcher 3 looks as or even almost as good as Unity, i would be more than happy.It has. But I don't know any great looking open world game that hasn't. Unity isn't perfect, don't get me wrong here. But it's also still very good looking and we just should be careful to call "bad optimization" and stuff if we don't know a lot of that ourselves (which means if we don't have solid (!!!) proof for the claim or if we are experienced graphics programmers who worked on next-gen graphics before).
I personally don't know a single "perfect" game engine tbh. They all have their pros and cons. The games with the least technical flaws are in most cases pretty linear games with linear levels and predefined/scripted events (like Crysis, Metro, Battlefield and so on). It's a whole different beast to make an open world game with huge sceneries and it's also a whole different beast if you want to le a lot of what happens on space be randomly calculated instead of being scripted. Like there ARE texture pop-ins in Unity and stuff like NPCs popping up in the far distance. But at the same time no other game before managed to render that many well modeled and textured and even animated NPCs on screen at the same time. So how do you know that it's "badly optimized" if you just lack any comparison and if you don't know every detail of the graphics engine to the teeth? Well, I'd say you probably don't. It's quite easy to dimiss devs for some obvious technical weaknesses but nobody's perfect and both hardware and software are still both pretty limited. So IMHO we should a little bit less aggressive or even arrogant here and sometimes we should acknowledge that games have some gorgeous graphics with a lot of work involved although they probably are far from perfect.
But thats kinda off-topic i guess, sorry
The downgrade is obvious, yes. They've slapped us in the face.
The trailer certainly wasn't bad. It was just disappointing.
I can understand how releasing a new trailer to ease our woes might not be feasible...but seriously: Just post 3-5 screenshots with the highest settings from the game. Something showing characters and lots of scenery at a wide angle, preferably in >1080 resolution. That really should be no problem and would go a long way in easing some of the community's concerns.
The fact that they a constantly showing of worse and worse stuff since the VGX trailer is *really* worrying
I can understand how releasing a new trailer to ease our woes might not be feasible...but seriously: Just post 3-5 screenshots with the highest settings from the game. Something showing characters and lots of scenery at a wide angle, preferably in >1080 resolution. That really should be no problem and would go a long way in easing some of the community's concerns.
The fact that they a constantly showing of worse and worse stuff since the VGX trailer is *really* worrying
The hardware required to play Unity at a decent framerate at high settings is ridiculous. People with sli'd 980s experience performance problems. It's garbage optimization at its finest, especially since it doesn't look like anything special compare to other games that came out this year.It has. But I don't know any great looking open world game that hasn't. Unity isn't perfect, don't get me wrong here. But it's also still very good looking and we just should be careful to call "bad optimization" and stuff if we don't know a lot of that ourselves (which means if we don't have solid (!!!) proof for the claim or if we are experienced graphics programmers who worked on next-gen graphics before).
I personally don't know a single "perfect" game engine tbh. They all have their pros and cons. The games with the least technical flaws are in most cases pretty linear games with linear levels and predefined/scripted events (like Crysis, Metro, Battlefield and so on). It's a whole different beast to make an open world game with huge sceneries and it's also a whole different beast if you want to le a lot of what happens on space be randomly calculated instead of being scripted. Like there ARE texture pop-ins in Unity and stuff like NPCs popping up in the far distance. But at the same time no other game before managed to render that many well modeled and textured and even animated NPCs on screen at the same time. So how do you know that it's "badly optimized" if you just lack any comparison and if you don't know every detail of the graphics engine to the teeth? Well, I'd say you probably don't. It's quite easy to dimiss devs for some obvious technical weaknesses but nobody's perfect and both hardware and software are still both pretty limited. So IMHO we should a little bit less aggressive or even arrogant here and sometimes we should acknowledge that games have some gorgeous graphics with a lot of work involved although they probably are far from perfect.
Agree, or even new high res gameplay, don't have to show any quests just some new locations.
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A little disappointed. You would think 3 months before release we would see completed game and amazing visuals.
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