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SageFox.326

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#1,581
Dec 8, 2014
Mozalbete said:
I know because it lacks entire layers of detail and it's low res compared to the first one. I don't believe you because you will have no proof it's a bug until new screenshots are released.
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ok no problem. anyway is not our fault, the trailer was a really very bad decision of cdpr. i'm more worried about map size than this, but this is being a new issue.
 
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val.mitev

Senior user
#1,582
Dec 8, 2014
Mozalbete said:
If you remove the frost texture it still looks quite worse.
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And how do you know that? In other parts of the trailer it's pretty obvious that the armors look just fine, it's the frost effect that looks bad.
 
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Sycophant.568

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#1,583
Dec 8, 2014
I have no idea what was happening in that recent Elder Blood tralier. It looked hastily put together, and bore clear signs of unfinished work, looking worse than Witcher 2 at multiple points.

At the beginning, the peasant's adam's apple and hand were disturbingly low poly (as in visible individual vertices) whereas the face looked finished material, bumpmapped properly, etc. Same goes for the new designs of the Wild Hunt - low poly as fuck, and the frost particle effects were low-res as well, missing any sort of AA. The grass looked placeholder-esque (which it probably was) and footprint impression mesh was popped in right in front of the viewer's eyes. Geralt also reverts to older hairstyle (no fur fx) etc.

A lot of stretching of models (Geralt chainmail in the end fight, Wild Hunt NPCs etc), jaggies, low-res textures and so on accompanied the rest of the video, and there were clear differentiation in the amount of work put in the snowy areas versus the forest areas. Particle fx also look very bad - most egregious case would be that Quen explosion where we got a splendid view of fire clouds without any sort of volumetric effects,giving it an extremely 2D look. Same case in the fire in the background of the Eredin introduction scene.

Either way, the new design of the king looked quite good, and I'd say the same for Yennefer and Ciri. Hopefully we'll get more material in the future.
 
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Zabanzo

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#1,584
Dec 8, 2014
Dragonbird said:
I'm not actually sure which post you're both discussing. :(
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Sidspykers post a few pages back.
 
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Arkray_gog

Forum veteran
#1,585
Dec 8, 2014
Sycophant said:
I have no idea what was happening in that recent Elder Blood tralier. It looked hastily put together, and bore clear signs of unfinished work, looking worse than Witcher 2 at multiple points.

At the beginning, the peasant's adam's apple and hand were disturbingly low poly (as in visible individual vertices) whereas the face looked finished material, bumpmapped properly, etc. Same goes for the new designs of the Wild Hunt - low poly as fuck, and the frost particle effects were low-res as well, missing any sort of AA. The grass looked placeholder-esque (which it probably was) and footprint impression mesh was popped in right in front of the viewer's eyes. Geralt also reverts to older hairstyle (no fur fx) etc.

A lot of stretching of models (Geralt chainmail in the end fight, Wild Hunt NPCs etc), jaggies, low-res textures and so on accompanied the rest of the video, and there were clear differentiation in the amount of work put in the snowy areas versus the forest areas. Particle fx also look very bad - most egregious case would be that Quen explosion where we got a splendid view of fire clouds without any sort of volumetric effects,giving it an extremely 2D look. Same case in the fire in the background of the Eredin introduction scene.

Either way, the new design of the king looked quite good, and I'd say the same for Yennefer and Ciri. Hopefully we'll get more material in the future.
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THAT is perftect summary of ALL the problems in the trailer. And as per that frost effect, I hope there is an option in graphics to disable it, it looks HORRIBLE.
 
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WhitestWolf

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#1,586
Dec 8, 2014
Honestly who cares how the trailer looks? As a trailer it should look amazing but I believe that once Witcher 3 is released, it will have many graphics options, and with RedKit players will be able to even modify how it looks.
 
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Ljesnjanin

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#1,587
Dec 8, 2014
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Well, this looks bad indeed...Don't know why, I am far from tech expert...

But honestly, I refuse to believe this will be final version of game...This is CDPR and W3 comes out in 2015 and not for PS2 :D
 

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SageFox.326

Rookie
#1,588
Dec 8, 2014
Ljesnjanin said:
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Well, this looks bad indeed...Don't know why, I am far from tech expert...

But honestly, I refuse to believe this will be final version of game...This is CDPR and W3 comes out in 2015 and not for PS2 :D
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that textures will be fine, there are other problems i think.
 
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Ljesnjanin

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#1,589
Dec 8, 2014
SageFox said:
that textures will be fine, there are other problems i think.
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Probably...Never seen or played a perfect game ;)
 
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Adamastor

Senior user
#1,590
Dec 8, 2014
i know its off topic but i just watched Uncharted 4 and batman demo gameplay, cdrp project needs more time and more resources to do a decent end of geralt saga games of the witcher, i mean just look at the trailers from other games in Game Awards 2014, w3 dosen´t even come close its not the same league, animations, graphics, physics, this makes me sad. a good story, different endings, choices all this needs to be matched with a decent 2015 engine.
 
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witcher22

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#1,591
Dec 8, 2014
Come on guys, it doesn't take a genious to see it doesn't even have fabric/ cloth/ his gauntlets etc- compared how it is ment to be. Can you stop posting it.
 
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Zabanzo

Senior user
#1,592
Dec 8, 2014
adamastor said:
i know its off topic but i just watched Uncharted 4 and batman demo gameplay, cdrp project needs more time and more resources to do a decent end of geralt saga games of the witcher, i mean just look at the trailers from other games in Game Awards 2014, w3 dosen´t even come close its not the same league, animations, graphics, physics, this makes me sad. a good story, different endings, choices all this needs to be matched with a decent 2015 engine.
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Uncharted 4 is a linear adventure game, you cant really compare it to open-world rpg, and as far as I know Batman does not have dynamic day and night cycle, or grass or forests, Arkham city as a setting is a lot more static... and empty. You are jumping to conclusion.
 
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Adamastor

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#1,593
Dec 8, 2014
ok how about DA:I, hell even RDR(2010 game)have better engine animations.
 
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Sneky

Rookie
#1,594
Dec 8, 2014
adamastor said:
i know its off topic but i just watched Uncharted 4 and batman demo gameplay, cdrp project needs more time and more resources to do a decent end of geralt saga games of the witcher, i mean just look at the trailers from other games in Game Awards 2014, w3 dosen´t even come close its not the same league, animations, graphics, physics, this makes me sad. a good story, different endings, choices all this needs to be matched with a decent 2015 engine.
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Uncharted 4 looks average imo, nothing special.
 
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dragonbird

Ex-moderator
#1,595
Dec 8, 2014
Yes, discussions of Uncharted 4 are definitely off-topic.
 
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Ljesnjanin

Forum veteran
#1,596
Dec 8, 2014
Riordan1 said:
Uncharted 4 is a linear adventure game, you cant really compare it to open-world rpg, and as far as I know Batman does not have dynamic day and night cycle, or grass or forests, Arkham city as a setting is a lot more static... and empty. You are jumping to conclusion.
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And Uncharted apparently got downgrade, too...:D
Anyway, you are completely right-there is no way we can compare it...
And besides, who the hell cares for Batmans and Drakes? :harhar:
 
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val.mitev

Senior user
#1,597
Dec 8, 2014
adamastor said:
ok how about DA:I, hell even RDR(2010 game)have better engine animations.
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It's a bit unfair to compare it with DA:I and the EA animations engine behind it (it's used by a lot of EA's games and there were significant money investments in it, hell it could even surpass the CDPR budget for W3).
As for RDR, we all know what the Euphoria engine is capable of and why it looks so good. But I think R* have exclusive rights to it.

Considering the size of CDPR, I think they are doing a very good job so far. I'm quite excited to see the final product.

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adamastor said:
i know its off topic but i just watched Uncharted 4 and batman demo gameplay, cdrp project needs more time and more resources to do a decent end of geralt saga games of the witcher, i mean just look at the trailers from other games in Game Awards 2014, w3 dosen´t even come close its not the same league, animations, graphics, physics, this makes me sad. a good story, different endings, choices all this needs to be matched with a decent 2015 engine.
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Uncharted in not an open world game and Batman doesn't have much variety in terms of the world, no forests, no mountains, no foliage. They look good, I'm not saying that they don't, but there are differences that need to be taken into account.
 
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dragonbird

Ex-moderator
#1,598
Dec 8, 2014
And....
I'm letting those two posts go because they probably didn't see my request, but no more posts about other games please. Any more are likely to be deleted.
 
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Adamastor

Senior user
#1,599
Dec 8, 2014
i don´t want to be unfair to cdrp i know they work hard to give us the best game they can, what i´m trying to say is that working hard sometimes its not enough, i think they need more time and money, sorry if i don´t see all roses in everything with the witcher name on it, probably i´m to old to see things like that anymore.
 
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nunokas

Senior user
#1,600
Dec 8, 2014
Hi.

For me, even if the visuals are at witcher 2 level, with a good story, gameplay and vast open world, it will be a winner :)


regards
 
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