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It does. To see how the graphics evolve over the next 5 months.
Like many, I have been watching the development process of The Witcher 3, from afar, for sometime now.
And as with many others, was quite surprised by the trailer we recently saw.
I suppose the first thing that caught my attention was that Geralt, in one shot, reminded me of the new "Game of Thrones" game by TellTale for the iPad.
It was surprisingly very 'painterly', something unexpected from all the other trailers previously seen.
Then there was Yennefer, personally the newer look is more pleasing than the older, but that is personal taste.
What was off here, however, was that it felt like I was looking at a 'plastic' character - or a GuildWars 2 character.
[Please understand, I enjoy playing GuildWars 2 - however, the point is simple... this is "The Witcher" and the style felt off.
All of the comments of "Downgrade" vs. "Compression issues".
I will tend to side with those who say "Downgrade", even if not for the actual game, it was for the trailer - vs. a compression issue.
It was not about artifacts, etc., which Youtube can be notorious for - it was about what i mentioned above with the actual art 'style' feeling 'mixed'.
When the comment came that they had to rush, I then considered the fact that this apparently was not game footage, but more like a movie cut... which then made sense.
i could see the rush, but it did not make sense to say it was due to compression.
After reading most of this thread, skimming through it, I wondered how things would actually turn out - as concerns a response from Red... and I had to laugh that laugh of "I should have saw this coming" when it said that there would be a delay.
At the end of the day - I have no idea what challenges they face. At best, it was just as they said, a quick movie trailer put together... as we have seen gameplay, and they have to iron out some issues to make it tick, unlike some other releases that have just recently came out... a bit too soon.
Worse, it could be that the world is too big, and they are having a time taming it... or in-between it may be that they strive to get a nice balance between console and PC.
Suppose we will see come summer of 2015.
I feel they could have communicated a bit more clearly about it, however they did what they felt they must. Hopefully moving forward communication will continue to come, yet with a bit more clarity.
And as with many others, was quite surprised by the trailer we recently saw.
I suppose the first thing that caught my attention was that Geralt, in one shot, reminded me of the new "Game of Thrones" game by TellTale for the iPad.
It was surprisingly very 'painterly', something unexpected from all the other trailers previously seen.
Then there was Yennefer, personally the newer look is more pleasing than the older, but that is personal taste.
What was off here, however, was that it felt like I was looking at a 'plastic' character - or a GuildWars 2 character.
[Please understand, I enjoy playing GuildWars 2 - however, the point is simple... this is "The Witcher" and the style felt off.
All of the comments of "Downgrade" vs. "Compression issues".
I will tend to side with those who say "Downgrade", even if not for the actual game, it was for the trailer - vs. a compression issue.
It was not about artifacts, etc., which Youtube can be notorious for - it was about what i mentioned above with the actual art 'style' feeling 'mixed'.
When the comment came that they had to rush, I then considered the fact that this apparently was not game footage, but more like a movie cut... which then made sense.
i could see the rush, but it did not make sense to say it was due to compression.
After reading most of this thread, skimming through it, I wondered how things would actually turn out - as concerns a response from Red... and I had to laugh that laugh of "I should have saw this coming" when it said that there would be a delay.
At the end of the day - I have no idea what challenges they face. At best, it was just as they said, a quick movie trailer put together... as we have seen gameplay, and they have to iron out some issues to make it tick, unlike some other releases that have just recently came out... a bit too soon.
Worse, it could be that the world is too big, and they are having a time taming it... or in-between it may be that they strive to get a nice balance between console and PC.
Suppose we will see come summer of 2015.
I feel they could have communicated a bit more clearly about it, however they did what they felt they must. Hopefully moving forward communication will continue to come, yet with a bit more clarity.
I'll post it here for those who don't want to go trough 150 pages:
http://imgur.com/a/uakOx
Trailer might be looking bad ,but there nothing that tells that game will.
http://imgur.com/a/uakOx
Trailer might be looking bad ,but there nothing that tells that game will.
The downgrade is because they don't want a big gap between the low powered X1 and PS4 versus PC
There is no other reason, that is all, it's just the truth
This Happend with:
Watch Dogs
Aliens: Colonial Marines
Far Cry 3
Assassin's Creed Unity
Bioshock Infinite
Dark Souls II
Also, confirmed for The Division, http://whatifgaming.com/the-division-developer-insider-we-already-downgraded-a-few-things
All those games was delayed and we all know what happend finally
This is not fault of the PC .. this is fault of PS4 and X1
When a delay is announced = downgrade
Why? When they release a trailer with awasome graphics and that trailer is PC footage, MS and Sony claim a downgrade (and they pay for this) for get similar visual look in their "Next Gen" consoles, because they know their consoles cant handle those awasome graphics
Is just business.. we all know the console games sell more than PC when the game is on all platforms (i'm a pc gamer).. so the dev must do a "similar look" game between all them.... Of course, there be more options in the PC version for look better, but there be no big difference with the console version
"If" this game had just done to PC, the graphics would be the same we saw long ago.. but no.
To be honest, I do not think this had anything to do with the supposed "downgrade".
Here is what I think happened with the trailer:
Because CDPR have problems with certain elements (which is why they delayed the game again) they did work a lot of overtime and had no time or even forgot doing a trailer for the VGAs. Because of that a short trailer was put together hastily and it looked bad in some places.
Upon seeing this thread and some others they realized that they had too much on their hands to finish until February and decided they needed another 3 months.
Here is what I think happened with the trailer:
Because CDPR have problems with certain elements (which is why they delayed the game again) they did work a lot of overtime and had no time or even forgot doing a trailer for the VGAs. Because of that a short trailer was put together hastily and it looked bad in some places.
Upon seeing this thread and some others they realized that they had too much on their hands to finish until February and decided they needed another 3 months.
They're a listed company on the Warsaw Stock Exchange. Listed companies don't make that kind of snap decision.
I don't know how this actually went down in CDPR, but I do know how the process works generally in listed companies, and it tends to be the same everywhere, largely because of regulatory/legal requirements.
The realisation that a delay is necessary comes from the executives in the company. They need to gather the facts and figures - impact of delaying, impact of not delaying, and present it to the Board. That takes time, and while it's happening, there's a very strong requirement for secrecy, because the more people who know about it, the higher the chance of it resulting in insider trading issues, so even the majority of their own staff wouldn't know the discussions were taking place.
When the Board approves of the change, the information is released to the shareholders and financial analysts, and, either at the same time or an hour or two later, to their staff and then the public at large (which, in this case, would include us).
So I agree that the video that was released may be symptomatic of whatever problems they're having (either a direct quality issue, or just that they didn't have time to make it properly), but no, a decision like that didn't happen because of the feedback in this thread.
They didn't delay the game based on fan reactions. A company like CDPR doesn't delay a game based on the kneejerk reactions of a couple hundred fans. Especially when they're hoping to sell copies to millions of people.
The decision to delay the game is something they've been contemplating for awhile. In fact, the decision was probably already made before the VGAs and whole "downgrade" fiasco but they weren't ready to announce it yet.
If indeed the graphics end up downgraded and if that was to push up a PC version on pair with the console version, I hope we get an update or an EE or something bringing the game to its true potential in PC. Even unused but still present code in the files so the modders can find it easily, anything really, there's got to be a way to bypass that console parity crap if its occurring and save the original game.
Now, aren't you a ray of sunshine.
Seriously though, that's a really bad attitude to have. If you are so convinced that the game will flop, why bother wasting your time writing about it then?
Cancel your pre-order if you aren't satisfied with it. You didn't buy the product shown in the trailers. You bought whatever product CDPR eventually comes out with.
[size=-2]This is why pre-ordering games is dumb unless you know you will love it no matter what.[/size]
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Maybe TW3 should come out next gen after this so called next gen. This gen is already out dated, this must be the last gen for MS & Sony. It sucks that the devs have to limit their vision of their own game because the MS console is the weakest link. I bet TW3 will come out on a nextgen console after this gen, if a nextgen even happens.
It will be like gtav,tombraider and the last of us like from XB360/PS3 to XB1 to PS4 remasterd with better graphics and performance. But that's only if TW3 becomes a big hit game this gen, and that's only if we all live to see a next gen. Alienware might kill consoles, I want better graphics and mods, and since I can play with my favorite XB1 game pad on Alienwares new consloe with a big screen HDTV why ever go back to XB1/PS4 again, when they can't even keep up with the new tech and what I want. My 2 cents
It will be like gtav,tombraider and the last of us like from XB360/PS3 to XB1 to PS4 remasterd with better graphics and performance. But that's only if TW3 becomes a big hit game this gen, and that's only if we all live to see a next gen. Alienware might kill consoles, I want better graphics and mods, and since I can play with my favorite XB1 game pad on Alienwares new consloe with a big screen HDTV why ever go back to XB1/PS4 again, when they can't even keep up with the new tech and what I want. My 2 cents
Keep it civil, please.Now, aren't you a ray of sunshine.
Seriously though, that's a really bad attitude to have. If you are so convinced that the game will flop, why bother wasting your time writing about it then?
is nout about the game itself, im a collector.. if the game itself is bad, dosent matter for me
Wait, if I get this right? So you are buying the game just for trinkets and you are not interested in the actual game?
I mean no disrespect, I'm just curious.
The reaction of fans may have been the final nail.
While I don't think the reaction was what made the delay happen it's unlikely the trailer didn't. They had to know when they finished it that it looked bad and that would have been some time before the awards.
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