One thing bothers me about the upcoming game (vague spoilers for the books)

[mitasova]

One thing bothers me about the upcoming game (vague spoilers for the books)

Hello everyone

I'm a Witcher fan of long standing, if i do say so myself, in fact, I started following Sapkovski's universe when there were no games in existence. I first read the Russian translation of the Sword of destiny in... God, I don't even remember anymore. I was reading this forum from time to time for the last few years, but this... issue finally compelled me to post.

See, one thing that i'm extremely uneasy about in the upcoming game is Ciri. As a fan of books first (I'm also an avid gamer, but for me the Witcher universe is books first, all else second) she was almost single handedly responsible for the decline in Sapkovsky’s books. I liked her well enough when she was a substitute daughter for Geralt (in the earlier books), but making her into a major character was a terrible mistake. Such a blatantly obvious Mary Sue, I really couldn’t believe Sapkovsky would stoop so low, was really fucking disappointed when he started dedicating half of each new book to Cirilla and her incredible lesbian adventures where nothing bad ever happens to her because duh. Alas.

I mean, I'm worried that they wouldn't be able to contain her storyline to more or less a side story. Her taking over the main narrative would be, in my opinion, a disaster. Of course, the games are only tangentially related to the books, and I like to think folks at CDPR are well aware that she was an all around terrible fucking character, seeing that they were making cracks about her incredible mary sueness as far back as the 1st game. But still. I feel apprehensive.

 

[Engagerade]

Blasphemy! :mean:

 

[Vigilance.492]

She won't take over the main narrative, Geralt will still always be THE most important character and the focus when it comes to the games. However she certainly won't be just a "side-story", it looks like her involvement will be fairly important as a part of the main narrative.

I have to agree to an extent, I much preferred the books when they focused on Geralt. I still enjoyed Ciri's portion and the books were still good, but definitely not as interesting as when it stuck to focusing on Geralt.

Frankly I would wait to see what CDPR do with the character. Have your concerns, but also remember that this is CDPR writing the game and not Sapkowski, they might know exactly the right line to ride with Ciri and how to place her in the story (Or they might not). So I think we just have to wait for the game to come out and discover how Ciri-Intense it is and how everything is portrayed.

 

[EliHarel]

I share your misgivings.

I don't count on Ciri being a side story. Don't see how that'll happen. It's her entrance into the games, it's about the Wild Hunt, and even the Sword of Destiny trailer built up to her being a major part of it. But since in the games we're almost always from Geralt's point of view, and CDPR aren't Sapkowski, it's likely to be a different experience. But yeah, I hope she'll be addressed differently this time around. "Downgrading" her though might raise a big protest from Ciri lovers and lore loyalists.

Bring it on @EmperorZorn

 

[mitasova]

Frankly I would wait to see what CDPR do with the character. Have your concerns, but also remember that this is CDPR writing the game and not Sapkowski, they might know exactly the right line to ride with Ciri and how to place her in the story (Or they might not). So I think we just have to wait for the game to come out and discover how Ciri-Intense it is and how everything is portrayed.

Yeah, I guess there's nothing left to do but wait and see. I have faith in CDPR, and I guess even if the worst happens and the game will be all Cirilla, all the time, if gameplay is fun, I would still play it. But I admit, when I first heard that Ciri is gonna be in the game my heart sunk. She really dragged the wole story down, to put it mildly.

If she is in the role she was playing in the first 3 books - a surrogate daughter to Geralt, a symbol, or the end goal of his quest, it'll be fine. You're right, she won't be a side-story, that was poorly worded on my part.

 

[Kinley]

I share your fears as well. I just hope CDPR won't focus on Ciri too much, my interest in the saga definitely went down once she got a more prominent role in the story.

 

[Engagerade]

:wat: i cant believe this.......

Nah i partially agree i didnt like Ciri in the 3rd book but it was necessary for her character development.
Apart from that she is fucking awesome.

 

[B_l_a_d_y]

never liked her

 

[StaGiors]

I wouldn't worry too much. The only "danger" of Ciri's part to the story becoming similar to what Sapkowski did, is if she was a playable character in game. I don't see any other way.

I did not mind the whole Ciri "sidestory" in the books, but I can't say that I enjoyed it more that Geralt's part. Remember the game introduces Yennefer as well. That entire sidestory should be a huge part of the game. At least I think it will be.

From what I can tell, I think that I would compare the third game with the later books Sapkowski wrote, but the player would experience the parts of Geralt's story (and his companions). I don't think Ciri will be Geralt's companion, at least not for long. And CDPR has said that we won't get to play as other characters. Not for long as well.

 

[mitasova]

Yennefer is not the same case, she has never taken over the entire book narrative the way Ciri has. I don't mind her.

Playing as Cirilla, however... i just pray that doesn't happen. I started skipping her parts of the books after her umpteenth miraculous quality presented itself. I think it was after the unicorns. I read that and was like, what the fuck ever, that's enough, I'm out of here. I really can't believe a writer of Sapkovski's skill would concoct this abomination of a character.

 

[BroccoliSouP]

Well..I believe it won´t be that bad(for you). There are supposed to be 3 main storylines so one is Probably hers. Then obviously game will consist gameplay which is usually longest part in games so I believe few hours will be Ciri´s and rest just a game. Also don´t forget games are mostly about Geralt.

Anyway...you have got balls to come here and say this. This forum is full of ciriofills and I believe they are preparing pitchforks right now.

 

[Ljesnjanin]

Ciri is not just a character, she is destiny
Anyway, I do not think she would steal game from Geralt...But will Ciri be a major and most important plot? Probably yes.

 

[ReptilePZ]

Yeah, she's not the best character ever, given the setting. Should be fine though, she's all grown-up now, probably a bit wiser, less of a brat with plot armour. And we're still playing as Geralt, so the focus of what the player experiences can't be on Ciri.

 

[Kinley]

Anyway...you have got balls to come here and say this. This forum is full of ciriofills and I believe they are preparing pitchforks right now.

How can you sharpen rubber pitchforks?

 

[mitasova]

I don't mind her being a plot point, even the most important one. The game is called The Wild Hunt, so that's, sadly, expected. What I feel apprehensive about, is half a game being dedicated to her nonsensical adventures. That would be a tough pill to swallow, for me.

And for the love of god, no Majic Lodge Genetic Conspiracy baloney. That was the lowest point in the books, just... terrible.

 

[mitasova]

Well..I believe it won´t be that bad(for you). There are supposed to be 3 main storylines so one is Probably hers. Then obviously game will consist gameplay which is usually longest part in games so I believe few hours will be Ciri´s and rest just a game. Also don´t forget games are mostly about Geralt.

So, what you're saying we will be playing as Ciri? Is this legit?

 

[ReptilePZ]

So, what you're saying we will be playing as Ciri? Is this legit?

I think you've misunderstood his words. He's talking about some of the plot being related to Ciri, but you still play as Geralt.

 

[BroccoliSouP]

So, what you're saying we will be playing as Ciri? Is this legit?

Not like that...I meant some quests with and around her. Possibly we could play as her but it usually took minutes if you played as different character (in TW2). But this is not certain yet. Devs just teased you might take control over other characters as the game goes for a while.

 

[Vigilance.492]

So, what you're saying we will be playing as Ciri? Is this legit?

It's always possible, just like TW2 had sections where you were able to play as another character, however we won't know until the game comes out. Even if we do have a section of the game where you play as Ciri, I highly doubt it'll last very long at all. Most likely it would be a flashback or minor sequence in the game, the vast, vast, vast majority of the time you'll be playing as Geralt, perhaps even the entire time.

 

[val.mitev]

Like it or not, Ciri will be a major driving point for the story. How much she'll be involved though, no one but CDPR can say at this point, but I expect her to affect the game world in a significant way.

As for the books, I liked her, quite a lot actually, so much potential for development. I was a bit annoyed at the bratty parts, but all in all she was put through a lot of bad stuff did affect her in a major way.
Being a major character, it was expected that she would be spared death or significant maiming, after all this is no Song of Ice and Fire.

Still, these are just opinions, you didn't like her, I respect that, but I did and so did others. Just a bit more left till we find out for sure how she'll turn out in the game.