One thing bothers me about the upcoming game (vague spoilers for the books)

[mitasova]

Cirilla as a major point I can handle. I really fucking hope they'll do away with "the most important thing that ever importanted" tho, because it's just bad. Just objectively terrible writing.

I hope the CDPR writers realize this, because even in The Witcher they were poking fun at her. I really wish they tone her down compared to the books.

 

[val.mitev]

The story could go in a number of directions, with various degrees of involvement from Ciri.
One such possible direction could be the death of Ciri, that would be one hell of a plot twist.
Or even better, Geralt could be forced to choose which one lives, Ciri or Yen! Decisions, decisions.

 

[Nerevar.220]

Yeah, she's not the best character ever, given the setting. Should be fine though, she's all grown-up now, probably a bit wiser, less of a brat with plot armour. And we're still playing as Geralt, so the focus of what the player experiences can't be on Ciri.

Your idea of plor armor is quite different from mine considering all the shit she went through both physical and psychological.

 

[ReptilePZ]

Your idea of plor armor is quite different from mine considering all the shit she went through both physical and psychological.

"Just by being the main character, the laws of the world seem to bend around the character in a more than figurative way. For some reason (and not even an explicit ability), just being the main character or on his/her team protects you from death, serious wounds, and generally any sort of harm until dramatically appropriate. Even psychological damage can be beaten by Plot Armor."

- http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PlotArmor

Describes what happens to Ciri perfectly, as far as I'm concerned.

 

[EliHarel]

@mitasova you are officially my favorite ranter with some of the terms you coined.

 

[mitasova]

"Just by being the main character, the laws of the world seem to bend around the character in a more than figurative way. For some reason (and not even an explicit ability), just being the main character or on his/her team protects you from death, serious wounds, and generally any sort of harm until dramatically appropriate. Even psychological damage can be beaten by Plot Armor."

- http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PlotArmor

Describes what happens to Ciri perfectly, as far as I'm concerned.

Yes, precisely. Plot armor doesn't mean that nothing unpleasant ever happens to the character in question, just that the rules of the universe don't apply, as far as she's concerned. Just as our princess seems to be in a tough spot - hey, look! Unicorns! Look! A supremely convenient magical horse! Look! A hitherto unknown magical ability! Look! She can withstand witcher training without getting mutated! And on and on it goes. A certain amount of plot armor is to be expected for a major character, but in Cirilla's case it's simply egregious (and ruinous for the overall quality of the books). I hope the writers at CDPR know what they're doing and pipe this shit the fuck down.

 

[EmperorZorn]

Yes, precisely. Plot armor doesn't mean that nothing unpleasant ever happens to the character in question, just that the rules of the universe don't apply, as far as she's concerned. Just as our princess seems to be in a tough spot - hey, look! Unicorns! Look! A supremely convenient magical horse! Look! A hitherto unknown magical ability! Look! She can withstand witcher training without getting mutated! And on and on it goes. A certain amount of plot armor is to be expected for a major character, but in Cirilla's case it's simply egregious. I hope the writers at CDPR know what they're doing and pipe this shit the fuck down.

...so what ?

It's Sapkowski's IP and story, he gets to write it as he wants to.
If you don't like it, write your own books.

 

[Kinley]

If you don't like it, write your own books.

Man is just expressing his opinions. No need for this kind of tone.

 

[mitasova]

...so what ?

It's Sapkowski's IP and story, he gets to write it as he wants to.
If you don't like it, write your own books.

Well, I think I guess here come the pitchforks the good folks have warned me about?

First, I like the books fine, just not this particular part of them.
Second, I'm not telling Sapkovski how to write his books. As far as I'm aware, the books are already written, so it's kind of late for that. I think however, that the portion of the books related to Cirilla was, to be frank, written badly, and hope the writers for the game don't fall in the same trap.

 

[EmperorZorn]

Man is just expressing his opinions. No need for this kind of tone.

I hope the writers at CDPR know what they're doing and pipe this shit the fuck down.

 

[val.mitev]

Yes, precisely. Plot armor doesn't mean that nothing unpleasant ever happens to the character in question, just that the rules of the universe don't apply, as far as she's concerned. Just as our princess seems to be in a tough spot - hey, look! Unicorns! Look! A supremely convenient magical horse! Look! A hitherto unknown magical ability! Look! She can withstand witcher training without getting mutated! And on and on it goes. A certain amount of plot armor is to be expected for a major character, but in Cirilla's case it's simply egregious (and ruinous for the overall quality of the books). I hope the writers at CDPR know what they're doing and pipe this shit the fuck down.

But there's the other side of the coin, without the plot armor, in the first dangerous situation for the main character, he/she could die and then it's game over. :hai:
I agree with you though, if it's subtle and doesn't get in your face all the time, then I don't mind.

 

[mitasova]

It's fine. I'm here to express my honest concerns with the game, not to win a popularity contest. And btw, I'm a woman.

 

[frynse]

Yeah, they'll have to approach it carefully for it to not seem too extreme. If they go through EVERYTHING about her, and all the concepts she introduces like all the prophecies and destiny and such from the books, it's going to be very vast, and take up a lot of time.
I do think this focus is the weakest part of the books so I hope they treat the subject right by perhaps not letting it overshadow everything else or treat it a bit like the subject of destiny in TW1 by having it be somewhat semi ambiguous. That said, I have confidence in their writers and I'm sure they'll handle it properly.

 

[Kinley]

And btw, I'm a woman.

Oh, woops. I apologize then.

 

[witcher22]

The lady of the woods gameplay made it quite, obivious, that the story is centred on Ciri.

Geralts objective is to track her down.

It would become impossible to ignore what is going on around him and he would get involved in other issues.
Or. Face the fact, that he did nothing while the world burns around him.

 

[val.mitev]

The lady of the woods gameplay made it quite, obivious, that the story is centred on Ciri.

Geralts objective is to track her down.

It would become impossible to ignore what is going on around him and he would get involved in other issues.
Or. Face the fact, that he did nothing while the world burns around him.

Geralt's objective to find Ciri is in that segment of the game. I doubt he'll be looking for her the whole time.
He'll find her and don't think it will take him that long to do that. I think the major part of the story will unfold afterwards.

 

[arkblazer]

To mitasova and all the other cirihaters in this thread i just want to post this video showing my reply.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWdd6_ZxX8c

 

[witcher22]

Geralt's objective to find Ciri is in that segment of the game. I doubt he'll be looking for her the whole time.
He'll find her and don't think it will take him that long to do that. I think the major part of the story will unfold afterwards.

Depends on how many sections the game is broken into to.
The wild hunt show down would be the end, i presume.

In whicher 1 Alvin upped and left on a dime. We shall see.

 

[Pedrolago]

CIRI FTW!! No but seriously, Ciri ftw

 

[Sagitarii]

Honestly, for me Ciri was quite a watered down character in the books - but it was okay, since she was a child.
I hope they tackle her character a bit differently and well....better, in the game. I think Yennefer and Ciri, both should have equally important roles in TW3, but I guess that is not the case.