Oversexualizaton in Cyberpunk

[CaptainArgo]

(Oh, and DA2 wasn't insulting because it wasn't adult-oriented. It was insulting for a whole bunch of reasons that can be summarised as "Did they think we're all idiots?". )

I actually liked the game rather a lot. I hope you're not insinuating that I'm an idiot

There's no doubt that DA2 was a rush job and the devs didn't have as much time to work on it as they wanted, and it did result in some glaring deficiencies (IMO the worst of them was the barely-masked reused areas). But I think that it has also just become "popular" to deride it as being awful when, in fact, I think it had a lot of very good qualities. I don't know exactly what your reasons are for not liking the game but I personally don't see a lot of the complaints I hear about it as being necessarily problematic, more like personal preferences that the game didn't cater to. And clearly it is perfectly legitimate to dislike a game because it made design choices that you didn't prefer, but it's also a different thing to say "I didn't like XYZ Game" than it is to say "XYZ Game is objectively bad" or "I didn't like XYZ Game because I'm not an idiot". I've loved basically every BioWare game to a greater or lesser degree, and I've also loved the Witcher games (TW2 in particular I thought was a masterpiece), so it is certainly possible to like them both.

Anyway, to get a bit more back on topic.... I've generally approved of the ways both of them have handled sexuality. BioWare is certainly more reserved, which isn't fine. That's why I don't see the lack of multiple sex scenes, or "underwear-on sex" stuff as a problem; the sex scenes in DA2 aren't really meant to be sex scenes, more like "insinuations", as well as a way to show the changing nature of the relationship between the characters. And, while they could have gone a different direction, that approach to it does fit in with the aesthetic of the DA games. The Witcher, on the other hand, is simply more blatant about the way it presents sexuality. That's fine too, and it absolutely fits in and enhances the feel that they've cultivated for the entire setting. I don't see either as objectively better or worse, but each works for what the developers are trying to accomplish.

 

[onosendai7]

If think CDPR is more mature about developing relationships between characters. No need for 54 scenes of bad sentimental chatter to have some fun in bed

 

[Zonzai]

I wonder what's worse, putting a good looking female in a trailer or patronizing female gender under the cover of defending it from the comfortable backs of white horses of "progression" againts evil forces of CDPR's marketing.

And what's with this whole "submissive position". Why do some people want so badly to see it this way, huh? What would Freud say about it? I wonder...

Since you asked. Freud would say the desire to be submissive stems from a lack of personal confidence. He would say that we see in others what we dislike about ourselves. He would say that the role of submissive females is not just a societal stereotype but also a genetic predisposition common in both males and females.

 

[Maligna]

Think you'll be able to play as a prostitute in this? That could be interesting/depressing.

 

[Decatonkeil]

Think you'll be able to play as a prostitute in this? That could be interesting/depressing.

It would indeed be. What would be a prostitute character's relationship with augmentation? Paying augs that you can use out of the prostitute job with the cash you earn in it or augs that fit this job? If so you could go from a regular unenhanced prostitute (male or female) of the streets that gets augmentations that make her some kind of exotic geisha (take the "exotic" part as literally as you want) every wealthy person wants to spend time with, to the point were you gain contacts with all the socialites and get invited to opulent places... now what would you do with all this access I wonder?

It sure could work, in the PnP you sure can do it but when you have to programme all this... hey, maybe if they restrict the character options to "what you can become from street level up" a prostitute role could substitute some of the classic ones that aren't as available for someone from the streets (I can't see one becoming a corporate with this start unless some kind of sensei becomes aware of some talent you have for the job or you snatch someone's personality).

 

[Maligna]

Indeed, the possibilities seem to be endless. I hope we have lots of these kinds of options.

 

[Zonzai]

I'm pretty sure you won't be able to be a prostitute. Braindancing sex though? Could be interesting...

 

[cstomper]

i imagine from a gaming perspective a braindance sex if its ever done which is possible considering that it's being made by the people who mad the witcher 1 and 2 willl be like the FEAR 2 scene's during the final boss fight which i wont say anymore on for anyone who hasn't played this yet

as for augmentation and sex
the official 2020 rules have mr studd and midnight lady augmentations as cybernetic options both as a brain chip/implant for fleshies and for full body conversions as a complete suite with synthetic prosthetic genitals

in CP 203x the next edition of CP as a PnP the CeeMetal faction's augmentation is full body replacements near indistinguishable from humans
if i recall correctly when cut the flesh is white and that's it for some body's as CeeMetals normally have two body's each one for work and the other for play

and the cyberpunk 2077 is set some 40-50 year's after this so yes cyborgs both partial and full body conversions are able to consummate any relationship they get into

 

[chriswebb2020.736]

i imagine from a gaming perspective a braindance sex if its ever done which is possible considering that it's being made by the people who mad the witcher 1 and 2 willl be like the FEAR 2 scene's during the final boss fight which i wont say anymore on for anyone who hasn't played this yet

as for augmentation and sex
the official 2020 rules have mr studd and midnight lady augmentations as cybernetic options both as a brain chip/implant for fleshies and for full body conversions as a complete suite with synthetic prosthetic genitals

in CP 203x the next edition of CP as a PnP the CeeMetal faction's augmentation is full body replacements near indistinguishable from humans
if i recall correctly when cut the flesh is white and that's it for some body's as CeeMetals normally have two body's each one for work and the other for play

and the cyberpunk 2077 is set some 40-50 year's after this so yes cyborgs both partial and full body conversions are able to consummate any relationship they get into

In 2020 there was also an upgrade to allow full borgs to have the 'Mr Studd' and 'Midnight Lady' implants fitted.

You can pretty much discount the V3 stuff, as it is no longer part of the official timeline. (MaxMike has openly stated that V3 is really an alternative setting rather than a progression.)

2020 also had complete sex changes available to player and there was even a chance that the character would be able to procreate, depending on the quality of the work.

 

[braindancer12]

Think you'll be able to play as a prostitute in this? That could be interesting/depressing.

say what you want but....i dont want to play as a prostitute.....just think about the disgusting quick time events during the sex...

 

[TheWanderingJewels]

Cyberpunk has always been about Sex, Chrome, violence, psychosis. Besides Cyberpunks take on sexuality cannot be any worse than twerking or some of the face sitting weirdness I've seen out of brazil

 

[riczikovacs]

As long as its handled in a justifiable and tastefully tasteless way. I also think that they shouldn't shy away from more taboo sexual topics like woman/man on woman/man/robot as they are bound to be far more pervasive and accepted in the future.

 

[Nars]

In cyberpunk sex is fun. There is no such thing as "oversexualizaton". Only thing Reds need to avoid is damsel in distress cliche and giving one gender more "options".

 

[braindancer12]

In cyberpunk sex is fun.

not only in Cyberpunk...

 

[Nars]

Good point.

 

[CascaRiven]

Not having the main lead in her underwear or that tube top + underwear the teaser trailer girl is wearing would be a start. If the hero starts as a stripper or escort then that type of attire could work but if they aren't in that profession make the starting outfit fit the occupation at hand you can then add the underwear and outfit that trailer girl wears in stores to buy so players who want it can have it.

 

[Decatonkeil]

say what you want but....i dont want to play as a prostitute.....just think about the disgusting quick time events during the sex...

QTEs? I was thinking something more like this

 

[braindancer12]

QTEs? I was thinking something more like this

this should be it?........it should be a quick time event like: X X X X X X X X X X X X X

 

[Suhiira]

One of the first mods I downloaded for Skyrim was the lockpick "cheat".
I'd previously played Fallout 3 and HATED the lockpick minigame.

I also have a SERIOUS hate for "Mario" type stuff in RPGs.
I the player am lousy at timing and execution of "jump from item-to-item to reach wherever" therefore get really frustrated when my 60+ year old eyesight and (lack of) coordination mean I wind up getting my character killed over-and-over-and-over till I finally get lucky and hit just the right pixel during just the right fraction of a second to be able to continue the game, because the only other option (which I have done a couple times) is just delete the game as unplayable.

 

[azriel77]

Cyberpunk has always been about Sex, Chrome, violence, psychosis. Besides Cyberpunks take on sexuality cannot be any worse than twerking or some of the face sitting weirdness I've seen out of brazil

Pretty much. Anybody who is worried about oversexualizaton (a BS word by the way, it is just sexualized) from cyberpunk and CDP OBVIOUSLY do not know them or the setting at all and should avoid this game. I would seriously be disappointment if the game felt sanitized and politically correct to please a group who do not care about this game at all, probably will not even play it, and will STILL complain about something that offends them because that is what they do.