Its wording is also very different in the part that is in the patch notes:
How can you get multiple Scythemen, if the card is only spawned and played after the last charge is used - and Radovid only gives you extra charges (both on Deploy and with Order) when you have "more than 1 Charge"? Or did I misread the ability somehow?
Yes, because you definitely don't see them in >90% of their factions' decks.
Maybe that's because current Bountiful Harvest is broken? When the Simlas atrocity first appeared, people were at least playing different special cards with him. But lately it's almost always the harvest with self-multiplying flute girl or sorceress.
The 2 or more charges is only referring to the way it appears in the Deckbuilder as the Base version of the Skill and isn't referring to how many charges you need to have left.
You see them bcs there are no other competitive options. Like, you see 100% AA in NR, let's nerf it then.
Thanks for clarifying. I thought of "charges left".
You're saying this like echo tutors don't desperately need a nerf.
Yeah well i guess we need to wait until tomorrow to be sure, but considering that the text explicitly refers to the Base Version of the Skill it should actually work like Vlad said.
I really hope you are right on this one, but that's Gwent we're talking about. So broken combos are a thing to be expected.
I'm saying that judging a card by its playrate without an alternative is not a good idea.
And I'm saying that auto-include cards should always be nerfed. And if there's no alternative, then the abilities or the faction itself need a rework. "Non-alternative" cards remaining "as-is" to rot and poison the whole game is not a solution
There was nothing OP or "broken" about the Harvest. It's a 6p card that had a just under 50% chance of creating another 6p card, the rest of the options being 4-5p cards. What it was, though, is it was a core card for entire faction, carrying both, the Nature's Gift, Handbuff and, to a lesser degree Spellatael and Movement decks. If they found Simlas interaction oppressive, they should have nerfed Simlas directly. Doing what they, they nerfed Simlas, Filavandreal AND Forest Protector, which, basically means the entire faction. And the card is basically garbage, unusable in anything aside from Nature's Gift. You can't rely on it for DB Sentries. You can't rely on it for the watchers. The card is dead. The least they could have done is make it 5p, but it's still 6p. Maybe I'll include it in that garbage deck I'll put together to use with the new Saskia.
Well, you may like the card and think it's not broken. For me it was broken, overused and annoying, so I'm glad they all but killed it. My ST decks played fine without it, Simlas or Filavandrel. And the less Spellatael (which is just a fancy word for "unitless" anyway, so they're no better than Carapace Kelltullis) decks I meet, the more I enjoy the game.
It's as much about me liking the card as it is about you not liking it. That aside though, based on actual average value, there was nothing broken about it. If it was overused that's because it was one of the VERY few decent cards ST received recently, both in terms or solid value and flexibility. The more I think about ramifications of this, the less I like it. This is a huge blow to the entire faction.
You are forgetting its handbuff bonus, Nature category (thus spawning treants with Nature's Gift ability) and boosting Gord. Isn't this a bit too much for a 6p bronze? But it still has all this - you just won't be able to surely spam fluters and sorcs. The horror!
Perhaps. Still, they all seem to boil down to playing as many special cards as possible (and then some beyond that). So for me they're all equally repulsive. I can only hope to see more Harmony and movement decks (with actual units played on board to interact with one another) added to the faction's mix.
Nobody was "spamming anything" with an RNG card that had less than 50 percent chance to create a specific card. The 6p special creates a 6p card every other time, while having to settle for a 4-5p card otherwise. Such OP!!
It's useless to talk power/provisions balance when you don't bother to correctly calculate power and provision for combos.
Special cards that create units are not the same as unit cards.
That's the only way I saw it being used. Maybe there were decks where Harvest was creating sentries, but they must be much rarer (unlike sentries + Idarran + megascope + witchers sadness), since I don't remember encountering them a sigificant amount of times. For me it says a lot about the card's "balanced" use.
Just a well-meaning suggestion.
Agreed. I love my Blood Scent deck, but even I don't get this buff. Maybe they though that it's slow damage and can be purified, so Alp needed a boost? Yet even 4p Alp can still be removed by almost anything if that's your opponent's goal.
