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Leintati

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#41
Jun 8, 2015
This may not be a solution, but what worked for me was uninstalling the game and reinstalling, letting it patch as normal. I have not been experiencing this type of thing since... so far. Also novigrad being a ghost town only happens once in a while now and usually when i sprint.
 
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jeffreybernabe

Rookie
#42
Jun 8, 2015
julianomg said:
With +90 hours of play, I'll wait for the next update, if not improve or even get back to quality he had, I'll sell the game and never buy anything from CD PROJEKT RED for pre-order again ....
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Bye!

---------- Updated at 03:24 PM ----------

the bridge was a slow pop up.... check the digital foundry video again.. Calm down
 
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Wah_Gwaan

Rookie
#43
Jun 8, 2015
Cloud_Fire said:
Rain making the game run shitty? I've never experienced that...ever! pls don't give them any more ideas to make the visual quality for this game anymore shittier. The dynamic weather is one of the best parts of W3.

will admit, the rain drops would've been better if it was a bit more translucent and less white, but aside from that, I appreciate the dynamic weather for what it is!
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If you have a disc copy of the game, try reinstalling it, don't patch it, and start a new game. When it rains you'll notice how much better it looks compared to the rain now, the rain drops are actually translucent. The water especially looks fantastic when it rains and reacts much more dynamically to the weather.

You can do this without losing any saves and when you're ready to continue playing patch it and load your saves as normal.

I've done this many time to compare the difference between the unpatched and latest versions of the game. They have downgraded a lot of effects, there was even blood on Geralt during combat, which is now not present.

BUT the unpatched game has a lot of performance problems, and the rain effects on water really kill the FPS. Ultimately it's a compromise I don't mind making, but I still prefer version 1.02 of the game to what we have now.
 
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TL24

Rookie
#44
Jun 8, 2015
Wah_Gwaan said:
If you have a disc copy of the game, try reinstalling it, don't patch it, and start a new game. When it rains you'll notice how much better it looks compared to the rain now, the rain drops are actually translucent. The water especially looks fantastic when it rains and reacts much more dynamically to the weather.

You can do this without losing any saves and when you're ready to continue playing patch it and load your saves as normal.

I've done this many time to compare the difference between the unpatched and latest versions of the game. They have downgraded a lot of effects, there was even blood on Geralt during combat, which is now not present.

BUT the unpatched game has a lot of performance problems, and the rain effects on water really kill the FPS. Ultimately it's a compromise I don't mind making, but I still prefer version 1.02 of the game to what we have now.
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Interesting, I may just have to try this later when I get home. I've already beaten the game and loved my ending so I wouldn't mind starting a new one with version 1.02 instead to see if I can notice any major difference in the visual quality. I've got the digital copy but I can always pause the updates and install them later on.
 
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yank33

Rookie
#45
Jun 8, 2015
Marcin Momot said:
Nothing has been downgraded as of patch 1.04 on consoles. Nothing has been cut down or removed from the game. All assets/post-processes/features are still there.
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So everyone posting videos and evidence is a Liar? Knew I shouldn't have trusted you forum types.
 
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witcherDK

Rookie
#46
Jun 8, 2015
yank33 said:
So everyone posting videos and evidence is a Liar? Knew I shouldn't have trusted you forum types.
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wait what ? us forum types ? we are like everyone else we just want to voice our opinions about the game.
 
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Cloud_Fire

Rookie
#47
Jun 8, 2015
Wah_Gwaan said:
If you have a disc copy of the game, try reinstalling it, don't patch it, and start a new game. When it rains you'll notice how much better it looks compared to the rain now, the rain drops are actually translucent. The water especially looks fantastic when it rains and reacts much more dynamically to the weather.

You can do this without losing any saves and when you're ready to continue playing patch it and load your saves as normal.

I've done this many time to compare the difference between the unpatched and latest versions of the game. They have downgraded a lot of effects, there was even blood on Geralt during combat, which is now not present.

BUT the unpatched game has a lot of performance problems, and the rain effects on water really kill the FPS. Ultimately it's a compromise I don't mind making, but I still prefer version 1.02 of the game to what we have now.
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Thanks a lot! I'll definitely try that out!

Do the DLCs work on the unpatched versions, though? that's my only concern.
 
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Grindders

Senior user
#48
Jun 8, 2015
NPCs still spawn from nowhere in the front of player on patch 1.04.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=vsuRm7gA3eU#t=206
3:26.
Everything was ok on 1.01-1.02 versions of the game.
Wah_Gwaan said:
I still prefer version 1.02 of the game to what we have now.
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Yes. 1.02 was the best version of the game for me.
And now we have xp bug, terrible pop in, downgraded graphics,etc (1.03-1.04 versions).
Patch 1.03:
Downgraded shadows in cutscenes, terrible pop in, less numbers of NPCs.
Patch 1.04:
Doesn't fix anything of that and bring more graphics downgrade.
 
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MisterWillow

Rookie
#49
Jun 8, 2015
Cloud_Fire said:
Prior to update 1.03, the game was running just fine for me.
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Same here. I got to Novigrad (in the process of finding out where Dandelion was) before 1.03, so I'd been through the swamps and everything (done all the story stuff in Velen), and the only time I would experience any problems at all is when I was in the middle of a swampy area, in the rain, with the wind blowing while fighting a group of drowners, and only then, it was a couple frame drops. It was running beautifully, and it looked gorgeous. I thought to myself "I was worried the PS4 couldn't handle it, but CD Projekt really pulled through."

The only bug I experience from day one until 1.03 was at the very beginning in White Orchard, I was going to the nobleman for the first time (through that marsh with the pack of wolves) and all of a sudden the water popped in this strange black outline or something around its borders (similar to how usable things has a yellow glow around them in Witcher sense, but black and all the time). A save and reload fixed it and it never happened again.

After 1.03, the blacksmiths stopped appearing in Novigrad. I had to meditate in front of their shops to get them to spawn (I've since completed Swords and Dumplings, and Hattori doesn't have that problem). Now, I'm getting pop-ins where I wasn't (usually NPCs, but I've seen a couple trees and grass patches), the fur some people wear looks like plastic, and everything looks somewhat lifeless in a way it didn't before. Also, anyone carrying a box now has a strange reversed walking animation, while they're moving forward, which was funny when I first saw it, thinking it was that one guy, but then I noticed it was everyone, and now I'm a bit annoyed

I thought I had been playing too much, and was starting to notice flaws just by looking at it too long, but I really think it ran best when it launched.

I'm right at the end of the story, so I'm going to finish my playthrough. But I really want to play through again to see where alternate story threads go. I'll wait a couple months before then, and hopefully all this will be remedied.
 
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bm76

Rookie
#50
Jun 8, 2015
Geber said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNJhkQQukoE
Here's what's going on, no deleting at all, just a bug, someone has it, someone not...
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that youtube video was posted 31st of may, a week before patch 1.04 was released....
 
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CyberOps

Rookie
#51
Jun 8, 2015
1.01 which I sued from the start since we never got 1.02 here in europe was perfect and working just fine.
1.03 made most places deserted and made the game run very stuttery and introduced a lot of bugs i never experienced in 1.01
1.04 was definitely even worse as it downgraded the game in different ways, introduced more bugs and made the entire game experience even worse.

For now I can not enjoy the game as I was with the 1.01 version and decided to stop playing for a while, I hope the game will be improved and things get fixed with the 1.05 patch or I am going to send the game back and ask my refund since I got a 6 week return option at the place I got the game from.
 
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arenat4k

Rookie
#52
Jun 8, 2015
“Nothing has been downgraded as of patch 1.04 on consoles. Nothing has been cut down or removed from the game. All assets/post-processes/features are still there,” Marcin assured players.

What an awful lie. Is that behavior really acceptable in the world of industry professionals?

The chromatic aberration when looking at the sun has been butchered and simply removed. With ps4 graphics being not so great to begin with it just makes the game looking even more dull and past-gen. So I can imagine that everything else was downgraded as well (I'm not so observant but that effect really made my horse rides more enjoyable).

I guess when you took all the money you just can't give a damn anymore. My last game ever bought from you guys.
 
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TL24

Rookie
#53
Jun 9, 2015
Anyone know if uninstalling and reinstalling automatically the game will automatically trigger the update to 1.02 or will it go straight to 1.04?
 
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FreeFall24

Senior user
#54
Jun 9, 2015
No idea why you even want to keep playing, even previous versions, the framerate is still fucking shit on all versions :/ just wait for the game to be LOCKED LOCKED LOCKED- Wait, that'll never happen.

Sell it, get it on PC, never purchase 3rd party games on consoles. Fixed.
 
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TL24

Rookie
#55
Jun 9, 2015
FreeFall24 said:
No idea why you even want to keep playing, even previous versions, the framerate is still fucking shit on all versions :/ just wait for the game to be LOCKED LOCKED LOCKED- Wait, that'll never happen.

Sell it, get it on PC, never purchase 3rd party games on consoles. Fixed.
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I've already beaten the game so I just want to see what they've changed with 1.04 to the initial release, basically confirm if downgrades have been made.
 
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FreeFall24

Senior user
#56
Jun 9, 2015
There are a few changes to visuals, and they happen to be similar of a downgrade.

Biggest issue are the intense pop-ins and NPC's appearing in out of nowhere, especially Novigrad, and half the time the city is empty, meditate for an hour, and BAM! ...7 more NPC's and still nowhere as before :/

Game wasn't ready for console launch, especially PS4. No idea how anyone can finish this game with such TERRIBLE frames.
 
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Grindders

Senior user
#57
Jun 9, 2015
TL24 said:
Anyone know if uninstalling and reinstalling automatically the game will automatically trigger the update to 1.02 or will it go straight to 1.04?
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You can reinstall the game and play it without any update - look at the graphic. Then download update (yes, game will be 1.04 version, if you do this) and then play 1.04 version. You can definitely see the difference in graphics between 1.0 (in graphics 1.0 = 1.02) and 1.04.
Terrible pop in, less numers of NPCs, worse shadows in cutscenes, worse lightning, worse AA, worse rain effect (look at the water on 1.0 version!), etc = patches 1.03 and 1.04.

1.02 was the best version of the game for me.

Patch 1.03:
Downgraded shadows in cutscenes, terrible pop in, less numbers of NPCs.
Patch 1.04:
Doesn't fix anything of that and bring more graphics downgrade.
 
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julianomg

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#58
Jun 9, 2015
 
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jeffreybernabe

Rookie
#59
Jun 9, 2015
if you have any doubts, watch the videos again. you all need to calm down.. or watch NX_gamer 1.04 patch analysis on Youtube..
problems/bug posted above me can be occur in the game or not in my experience..
 
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Wah_Gwaan

Rookie
#60
Jun 9, 2015
TL24 said:
Interesting, I may just have to try this later when I get home. I've already beaten the game and loved my ending so I wouldn't mind starting a new one with version 1.02 instead to see if I can notice any major difference in the visual quality. I've got the digital copy but I can always pause the updates and install them later on.
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I just want to clarify that when I say I prefer version 1.02 of the the game, that is because for me that version had the best compromise between graphics and performance.

When you reinstall the game it'll be version 1.00, and that is the one that has the more dynamic water. This was removed in the day-one patch (1.01) so most people have never even witnessed it. So to see the effects I mentioned in my previous post, you need to play version 1.00 of the game. The water initially looks flat and seems to lack detail, but once the weather shifts you'll notice just how much more dynamic it is.

You'll notice other differences aside from the graphics, including balance changes in combat and awkward enemy behaviour. The patches have improved a lot of things in the game, but the graphics aren't one of them!
 
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