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Let's complain a little more about controller support. What a hideous thing to do! That's why there are dozens of bad console ports that just take away the controller support for NO good reason from the pc version. Is this done to try and hide the fact, that it is just a badly ported console game?Let's remember the good old times... controllers were used for playing when the games still came on 5,25" discs, joysticks they were called. Out of those rudimentary joysticks for one hand, over the years evolved the two handed game controllers we know now - and they still were for pc use! Ironically, they were the things, that later allowed to use a rudimentary computer for playing games...Back to the present. Now the poor pc player is being burdend with CHOICES! And not only IN the game, also about HOW to play it in the first place.But... you can STILL just use your keyboard and mouse, while i.e. gamers with challenged fine motor skills ALSO have a way to enjoy the game without a lot of frustration. What a shame. Those cripples should not even be considered! Ok, what about people who are simply not too keen on the backaches from prolonged KBM use? Oh, so if you're not ready to suffer, you're not worthy of the game? Okay. Let's not play, then.***And one word about the fuss about the aspect ratio thing (which will sort itself out shortly, I believe). I am more bummed that my monitor has only 60Hertz refresh rate, not 120, so I am missing out on the PC EXCLUSIVE 3D feature!
 
Lol it seems to be CDPR can't satisfy everyone.. People will just complain for whatever that they can complain of. I don't really care much about the rest BUT the only gripe i have is CDPR is not entirely honest.1. Should not announce as PC exclusive when the game is planned as multi-platform.2. Need to update online with GoG version which is a form of DRM to me.3. No DLC for fans that support them who purchased GoG version.
 
archaven said:
Lol it seems to be CDPR can't satisfy everyone.. People will just complain for whatever that they can complain of.
Well, that was irony, because you and others complained about the controller support...
 
More than one journalist who has tried the game mentioned unwieldy menus. Cd red themselves said: designed with consoles in mind. This is the classic sign of a multiplatform game. So calling it a pc exclusive is a bit misleading.
 
DelightfulMcCoy said:
DelightfulMcCoy said:
Lol it seems to be CDPR can't satisfy everyone.. People will just complain for whatever that they can complain of.
Well, that was irony, because you and others complained about the controller support...
I didn't complain about controller support.. As i said i have no problems at all if they were to multiplatform which i very much encouraged them to do so for more profit. I only said i felt lied of because they mentioned it as PC exclusive and after 10days it was announced consoles are in development. Don't you think they are not exactly honest?
 
Being that it is only coming out firstly on the pc and only on the pc for now, to me that is still pc exclusive, if they have plans later to put in onto consoles months to a year later down the line, does it realy matter that much?You have an original art work you sell it, you then make prints or something else, you sell those.Like are you realy going to be that irritatied if it does come out of the consoles months later? After you have played it several times, seen all there is and maybe for example moved on to play skyrim or whatever game you happen to buy next?I don't feel lied too, they are keeping their options open which is normally a good thing in life. One other thing, yes we are fans/player base but do you think they realy need to be crystal clear with everything, in my opinion they don't owe me anything, i don't owe them anything, they can lie to me if they want, i'm still going to buy it, for example when i sell a painting, if the client were to come to me and say "you never included that all important blue sqaure, i feel lied too", i would ask are you still going to buy it, depending on that i either sell it to them or to someone else it realy doen't matter to me, hell if i wanted i might include that blue square for arguments sake, just as CD projekt RED may patch in some of the features missing on release. I think any company that speaks and gives info is doing that not becasue they have too but becasue they want too and to have people mis interpet that information or cause fuss about it when they could have just not said anything to me is a bit annoying, if someone were to come to my studio, start saying this that and the next, i would tell you where to go, infact i would tell where to go into the window, depending on what was being said, i hate critics with no artistic skill.I am not particularly interested in 3D, i like my 75hz, 17 inch monitor, i am not crossfire/sli'ing and i am not multi screening either.I am pretty certain that all your annomosties towards consolisation features will be modded out fairly quickly.My only bone to pick with making a console version is if the pc version needs to sacrifice certain things, mainly length, stuff you can do and mabye a few others like graphical options and pc problems.You know, i have read these arguments over and over again in different topics. They all realy say the same thing, its as if everyone is a bovine/cow and you have eaten and taken in the grass/the new info, now are fixated with turning it into cud, turning it over and over and over, specualtion, mis-interpetation, critising and chastising.Very small, petty.My apoloagise if any offence is caused but in my own line of work i have no time for bull ******, specualtion (which i am probably doing) and critisim.Most proffesional critics (people who studied art history for example) in my experiance are people who don't have the ability to do what they are critising, the only critisim that is vaild is critisim from someone who can do, knows what went into and has the ability and will to do. Critism from the general public or jumped up historians/ journaists is litteral drivvel and or complete rubbish, in computer games i believe this differs, slightly.Have a very nice day :)
 
archaven said:
I didn't complain about controller support.. As i said i have no problems at all if they were to multiplatform which i very much encouraged them to do so for more profit. I only said i felt lied of because they mentioned it as PC exclusive and after 10days it was announced consoles are in development. Don't you think they are not exactly honest?
I had agreed on that long before you went on again about aspect ratio, controller & co., so I thought, I'd do some "complaining" of my own. ;)I also did not fault anyone but myself for not having the right monitor for the 3D feature, in case that got misunderstood, too. Someday I will have 3D equipment and then I will play again. :)
 
The PC version of The Witcher 2 is as good as any PC exclusive. They have optimized the snot out of it. They announced consoles, but that will take some time as they have to undo all of their awesome editions in the PC version to get it to actually run on consoles. So do not fear. The PC version is still untouched by consoles ugly stubby arms that can't keep their dirty fingers off of amazing developers.
 
archaven said:
I didn't complain about controller support.. As i said i have no problems at all if they were to multiplatform which i very much encouraged them to do so for more profit. I only said i felt lied of because they mentioned it as PC exclusive and after 10days it was announced consoles are in development. Don't you think they are not exactly honest?
Why?They said since the very first day that they weren't excluding a console version at all. We already know that it was in the plan, even if they didn't promise anything.Also, may I ask you what exaclty mean that you're feeling betrayed or lied? Many people like to play on console, many people don't. So what's the problem? Matter of opinion, don't you think?Also, console will bring more money to CDP and this means that they're won't be probably forced to bankrupt for more years (since many companies were forced to do). Don't you know that CDP went throught hard times some years ago, and was forced to fire a lot of people? I guess that the worst thing for everyone is CDP stops making beautiful games for us, no matter multiplatform or pc exclusive.My understanding here is that a lot of people think that the game is their own, and that CDP is working for them not for itself. I have always played on PC, but I'm no PC elistist. If I had a console, I would play all day long GOW 3 til bleeding (and thus I will stop to work or live at all LOL :D)
 
 
secondchildren said:
Many people like to play on console, many people don't. So what's the problem?
If you're going multiplatform, you're going to have to compromise in one way or the other. And it's the PC version that usually suffers. That's the problem.
 
But that would rob me of the privilege of saying "I told you so!" after the game is released and it turns out was rigtht! :p
 
I get told that by my better half usually after i have totally fubar`d something that needed to be done differently . :p
 
Sifer2 said:
However its this whole 4 month thing that has me so bummed out. Since it just confirms for me Witcher 2 was never a PC exclusive. An is not built as such. The console versions wont be side projects they start working on later. They have been working on them all along because Witcher 2 is a multiplatform game. Cutting things out an making god knows what else changes just to make the game fit on a console.
So you're having a cry because of the possibility that it will come to console? Get over yourself.Developers might not need to consider porting to console to make more money if some PC-only gamers weren't such stuck up whiny crybabies that are ready to abandon any given PC game at the drop of a hat.
 
Sifer2 said:
However its this whole 4 month thing that has me so bummed out. Since it just confirms for me Witcher 2 was never a PC exclusive. An is not built as such. The console versions wont be side projects they start working on later. They have been working on them all along because Witcher 2 is a multiplatform game. Cutting things out an making god knows what else changes just to make the game fit on a console.
So you're having a cry because of the possibility that it will come to console? Get over yourself.Developers might not need to consider porting to console to make more money if some PC-only gamers weren't such stuck up whiny crybabies that are ready to abandon any given PC game at the drop of a hat.
 
BroderickAU said:
So you're having a cry because of the possibility that it will come to console? Get over yourself.Developers might not need to consider porting to console to make more money if some PC-only gamers weren't such stuck up whiny crybabies that are ready to abandon any given PC game at the drop of a hat.
Most excellent post I do say. It does get old reading 100's of posts about why people aren't buying the game or why they think the game has dumbed-down features. Especially when people post these type of comments in EVERY single thread.
 
I am convinced that people like whines fro the simple pleasure of whining.Plus, as I've said, most of them are convinced that the game is their own (...my treasssssssure....)....yea, Gollum's style :DAgain, CDP fans should happily hop up and down, knowing that it will have the chance to gain more money, and thus surviving long to make more awesome games like TW.
 
secondchildren said:
Again, CDP fans should happily hop up and down, knowing that it will have the chance to gain more money, and thus surviving long to make more awesome games like TW.
Yeah I am sure some of the Crytek fans felt the same way. Until they actually installed an played Crysis 2 an realized they had been sold out. A focus on console development is almost never a good thing if your a PC gamer. Good for the Publishers wallets mainly.I want CDP to make money. I just don't want the quality of the game or future Witcher titles to be compromised by multiplatform development.
 
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