Even Bioware uploaded a video specificially about the PC version of DAI version before they game was released. You won't be worse than Bioware, will you, CDPR?
And no, I don't talk about Pc graphics. I talk about things that really matter for that platform...
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I hope we will be able to turn off ALL button prompts in the PC version. I mean, they're ok for absolute game noobs. I can map them myself in the settings and remember them. I don't want to see them anywhere, neither on the general screen nor in the menus like the inventory.
By the way, did you see some of the rarely appearing PC/keyboard buttons prompts in the youtube videos?. Like here in AngryJoe's (original, unedited stuff):
Xbox Controller prompts:
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Keyboard prompts:
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I hope THAT's not how the final PC version will look like with just 1to1 incredibly ugly transformed button prompts as if standard best-use practices for PC UIs didn't exist. I guess there is a good reason why they didn't want to show people the M/K controls and UI so far.
You know, in PC UIs dynamic screens are usually closed with clicking on a little "X" in the upper right corner. Best use practice. And button prompts for mouse/keyboard are usually nicely integrated in the general UI aesthetics and not a foreign body in the whole thing. Also if you play with a mouse/keyboard you usually don't play at a big TV but at a PC monitor. So the button prompts shouldn't be bigger than the actual information in the screen. And usually in a PC game that use best-use standards you can do everything just with the mouse in menus. I don't see how that stuff is designed for mouse-only usage. It's the opposite. It seems to be created for keyboard only usage, like a 1to1 transformation of controller input, basically just a name/button prompt change...
I mean, honestly, who created that crap? And I mean it: that PC button prompts in the picture above are CRAP and I really hope they are just temporary (I just don't know why they would still use such bad temporary things four weeks before release...)
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So, I re-desinged the final inventory for PC usage:
Original inventory (shot taken from last gameplay trailer):
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Re-desinged inventory for PC or M/K:
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Changelog:
- mouseover equipment comparison instead of information box in the lower left edge (real comparion now with visible buffs)
- menu structure for mouse usage in the upper left edge for direct mouse access instead of button toggling (design originally from ingame menu selection)
- removed button prompts in the lower right corner (PC users don't need that, most stuff is done with the mouse anyway)
- biggerinventory grid on screen (because the information was removed thanks to mouseover comparison)
I'm still not really satisfied with the stats in the lower right corner. The position of that information just doesn't fit the overall design and feels like a foreign body there (not just in my re-design but already in the original one). Maybe making Geralt's 3D model a bit smaller and putting the information above the model (maybe in two rows instead of five) would look and feel much better...
Yeah man, your design is a great PC menu system I don't care about the infor in the right corner.. if this would be the real PC menu, I would be so happy.. Now I just hope that someone can make a UI mod like this after the game release
Even Bioware uploaded a video specificially about the PC version of DAI version before they game was released. You won't be worse than Bioware, will you, CDPR?
And no, I don't talk about Pc graphics. I talk about things that really matter for that platform...
---------- Updated at 12:33 AM ----------
I hope we will be able to turn off ALL button prompts in the PC version. I mean, they're ok for absolute game noobs. I can map them myself in the settings and remember them. I don't want to see them anywhere, neither on the general screen nor in the menus like the inventory.
By the way, did you see some of the rarely appearing PC/keyboard buttons prompts in the youtube videos?. Like here in AngryJoe's (original, unedited stuff):
Xbox Controller prompts:
View attachment 13119
Keyboard prompts:
View attachment 13120
I hope THAT's not how the final PC version will look like with just 1to1 incredibly ugly transformed button prompts as if standard best-use practices for PC UIs didn't exist. I guess there is a good reason why they didn't want to show people the M/K controls and UI so far.
You know, in PC UIs dynamic screens are usually closed with clicking on a little "X" in the upper right corner. Best use practice. And button prompts for mouse/keyboard are usually nicely integrated in the general UI aesthetics and not a foreign body in the whole thing. Also if you play with a mouse/keyboard you usually don't play at a big TV but at a PC monitor. So the button prompts shouldn't be bigger than the actual information in the screen. And usually in a PC game that use best-use standards you can do everything just with the mouse in menus. I don't see how that stuff is designed for mouse-only usage. It's the opposite. It seems to be created for keyboard only usage, like a 1to1 transformation of controller input, basically just a name/button prompt change...
I mean, honestly, who created that crap? And I mean it: that PC button prompts in the picture above are CRAP and I really hope they are just temporary (I just don't know why they would still use such bad temporary things four weeks before release...)
---------- Updated at 02:06 AM ----------
So, I re-desinged the final inventory for PC usage:
Original inventory (shot taken from last gameplay trailer):
View attachment 13124
Re-desinged inventory for PC or M/K:
View attachment 13123
Changelog:
- mouseover equipment comparison instead of information box in the lower left edge (full stats comparison now possible because stats buffs of both the equipped item and the compared item visible now at the same time)
- completely redone menu structure for mouse usage in the upper left edge for direct mouse access instead of button toggling (design taken from ingame menu selection with controllers, button toggling unnecessary because of hotkeys)
- removed button prompts in the lower right corner (PC users don't need that, most stuff is done with the mouse anyway and we're not stupid and we can remember the keys we've chosen...)
- bigger inventory grid on screen (possible because the equipment information box was removed thanks to mouseover comparison)
I'm still not really satisfied with the stats box in the lower right corner. The position of that information just doesn't fit the overall design and feels like a foreign body there (not just in my re-design but already in the original one) because it overlaps with the 3D model and isn't alinged with any other element of the inventory. Maybe making Geralt's 3D model a bit smaller and putting the information above the model (maybe in two rows instead of five) would look and feel much better...
I honestly don't know what you mean. My mock-up work exactly like you describe it here. It's a mouse-over comparsion, so you don't have to equip anything for comparison. Just move the mouse over items in your inventory grid and the mouse-over tooltip open automatically. If it's an equippable item the currently equipped item is also automatically shown right besides it for comparison.@Scholdarr.452
For a small constructive criticism: add back the bottom left item info, or make a way for items to be able to be compared without equipping them, otherwise just tool tips remove functionality. The info that's "locked" in place for doing other things parallel to it should not be a tooltip that covers other stuff, where ever you want to put it. And you might want to add the full name of each equipped item close to their icons, so one can see all that one's using, identify it and memorize the names easily.
What the hell is wrong with all of you? I think that thoose kind of statements like "CDPR is the same road as the Bioware", otór "They forgot about the PC Community". It is a real shame. I think the M-KB controlls will be just fine, but IF somehow CDPR have did not really made it as good as you expect there will be FULL mod support, so you can tweak things. Did you forgot this? @Scholdarr.452's invertory degsin is looks good, and I expect even more and better later on as the new REDkit will launch.
Real shame is silence from dev's. And the fact that they've made UI thinking about controller not K/M. And there is nothing wrong that people are asking questions and lose faith after no answers and streams and videos with only controller. Hell they even forbid Youtubers to use K/M. What you expect? Still think that everything is fine and everything will be OK? I doubt this as many others. And so far CDPR haven't done a thing to prove me been wrong. Sure we can't demand from them to answer or show us something. If they don't want it's their choice. If they want to hide some problems untill release it's their choice. I just think it's not totally fair towards PC players.
View Poll Results: Which game controller(s) will you use on PC?Voters 64. You have already voted on this poll (delete vote)
Xbox One 9- -14.06%
PlayStation 4 10 - 15.63%
Keyboard & Mouse 37 - 57.81%
Have not decided yet 8- -12.50%
That is the problem. The UI must work for both but there is a big difference between creating it for K/M and adapting for controller and creating it for controller and adapting it for K/M. And it looks like it was created for controller. And it mean that PC players will suffer from this decision.What if the UI works for both, controllers and M+K? Crazy, right?
That is the problem. The UI must work for both but there is a big difference between creating it for K/M and adapting for controller and creating it for controller and adapting it for K/M. And it looks like it was created for controller. And it mean that PC players will suffer from this decision.
PC port only?
Keyboard prompts:
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