Sure but their track record in my opinion is releasing crap that has to be patched. The games are good. Don't get me wrong.
Ok, this is not a court of law so you can leave the whole onus of proof at the door.
CDPR has had quite a few public mistake for which they have apologized for publicly. Especially PR wise.
That's entirely besides the point though. Even if they did have a spotless track record. A spotless track record does not automatically mean they will maintain it.
Bioware used to have a spotless track record. Look at how far they've fallen now. Blizzard used to have a spotless track record, they don't anymore. Bungie used to have an amazing rep for it's work and support of Halo, they ain't getting much love with Destiny and it's support.
Point is, your blind faith in CDPR might be misplaced. We all hope it isn't but it just might. Just don't state your own arguments as facts if you keep going around telling people their opinions are nothing more than opinions.
Okay so I've said this (my opinion) before and I'll say it again. THE CDPR that we knew back in the witcher days is long gone, buried under corporate creed and stockholders and boards of directors more interested in the stockmarket, then in the players. Hence why the stock holders got a call and a statement from the managers, we got pretty much a PR spin.
Once they went public the game became not a matter of love, but a way to generate profits for the stock holders. The chances of us getting the CDPR of yesteryear is none. It's gone.
Oh they may or may not put on a good act, but in the long run, if the stock holders aren't happy, then the players be damned.
Once they went public the game became not a matter of love, but a way to generate profits for the stock holders. The chances of us getting the CDPR of yesteryear is none. It's gone.
Oh they may or may not put on a good act, but in the long run, if the stock holders aren't happy, then the players be damned.
What seems to be a 'militant' opinion on this forum is the destructive criticism, which aims to denigrate a story by mere speculation and an 'I think' ...
It is one thing to have criticism, another, to suppose, to imagine that one opinion has more value than others, or because it forms 'apparent' majorities - which are not even majorities, despite the 'shouting in the press' about the unfolding of facts and news. that reach us. game works very well on common computers (most use it). today, from what I read on that forum it is running on Xbox and Box. It still finds more serious problems on the playstation. Now, repeat, 'ad infinitun' the same thing on all topics, this is not, in my view, a good practice. Only the interest is not to make yourself 'heard', but to generate disagreements.
It is one thing to have criticism, another, to suppose, to imagine that one opinion has more value than others, or because it forms 'apparent' majorities - which are not even majorities, despite the 'shouting in the press' about the unfolding of facts and news. that reach us. game works very well on common computers (most use it). today, from what I read on that forum it is running on Xbox and Box. It still finds more serious problems on the playstation. Now, repeat, 'ad infinitun' the same thing on all topics, this is not, in my view, a good practice. Only the interest is not to make yourself 'heard', but to generate disagreements.
People keep saying this, but for some reason I can't recall experiencing any bugs in The Witcher 3, and I bought it day one. Maybe I'm just not especially sensitive to bugs in games, but that just goes to show how exceptionally buggy CP2077 must be, because it bothered me enough to stop playing.
I'm not saying have blind faith in them but at least give them a chance to fix it. As far as Blizzard I blame their problems on being owned by Hacktivision now. Blizzard used to be an Top Tier Developer and as for Bioware I feel for them being crushed by Emperor EA Palpatine.
The only thing that CDPR got from me are my 60€
First and last game i will ever buy from them.
I wouldn't mind the bugs and performance issues, if the game actually deliver what any game does:
1)A proper challenge at high difficulty, without the need to get 2 shotted or 2 shot enemys because they lack any crit resist stat
2)A proper AI that oppose a challenge while still being fair, i'm not expecting DOOM ETERNAL level of AI, but still, no a single boss fight is remarkable, just double jump if they are melee, glitch theyr weapon if ranged....wow
3)A new game plus, having to retain some weapons, some perks, something, while doing another run, should be a thing in any games like this, i don't wonna call it RPG because it's not, but still, huge lost potential.
4)Some sort of controll over the story itself, i'm not talking about those 10-15 quest where there is an actuall choice that matter, even if the outcame doesn't prolong to the end game.
To many copy and paste filler quest, very few well made secondary quest, a solid campaign.
5)All the systems in this game needs totall rework, from outlook, to loot, to crafting sytem, to veichles, to AI, to vendors, to fast travel mechanic that doesn't make any sense and destroy the immersion.
6)It's clear as night and day, that this game was never properly tested, during the review bombing on day one, there were few articles about the ammount of bugs in the game, yet, the team responsible of testing the game, was not able to see what was going on?
Like 90% of people got the same bugs, in the same spot.
You are asking me to give them a chance?
I would give them another year of delay if that's what needed for this game to really shine.
Having completely ruined my first run, my first impression of the game, something that you'll never have back as a customer, from the customer.
The story of Cyberpunk and CDPR development will go down in history, people will eventually came out and speak loud about what happen, especially the straight up lies on the subject console version and pc requirements hardware.
If money is really what matter for some people in the hight floors of CDPR, they should have tought that with all the backlash and shit-storm this game is going trought, it would have been better to just delay it again,lose a way smaller % of money in stock market, rather than ruin something that, unlike money, hardly will came back: Customer Respect.
Such a sad year
First and last game i will ever buy from them.
I wouldn't mind the bugs and performance issues, if the game actually deliver what any game does:
1)A proper challenge at high difficulty, without the need to get 2 shotted or 2 shot enemys because they lack any crit resist stat
2)A proper AI that oppose a challenge while still being fair, i'm not expecting DOOM ETERNAL level of AI, but still, no a single boss fight is remarkable, just double jump if they are melee, glitch theyr weapon if ranged....wow
3)A new game plus, having to retain some weapons, some perks, something, while doing another run, should be a thing in any games like this, i don't wonna call it RPG because it's not, but still, huge lost potential.
4)Some sort of controll over the story itself, i'm not talking about those 10-15 quest where there is an actuall choice that matter, even if the outcame doesn't prolong to the end game.
To many copy and paste filler quest, very few well made secondary quest, a solid campaign.
5)All the systems in this game needs totall rework, from outlook, to loot, to crafting sytem, to veichles, to AI, to vendors, to fast travel mechanic that doesn't make any sense and destroy the immersion.
6)It's clear as night and day, that this game was never properly tested, during the review bombing on day one, there were few articles about the ammount of bugs in the game, yet, the team responsible of testing the game, was not able to see what was going on?
Like 90% of people got the same bugs, in the same spot.
You are asking me to give them a chance?
I would give them another year of delay if that's what needed for this game to really shine.
Having completely ruined my first run, my first impression of the game, something that you'll never have back as a customer, from the customer.
The story of Cyberpunk and CDPR development will go down in history, people will eventually came out and speak loud about what happen, especially the straight up lies on the subject console version and pc requirements hardware.
If money is really what matter for some people in the hight floors of CDPR, they should have tought that with all the backlash and shit-storm this game is going trought, it would have been better to just delay it again,lose a way smaller % of money in stock market, rather than ruin something that, unlike money, hardly will came back: Customer Respect.
Such a sad year
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My point was it was probably very disheartening for the devs to learn their game was being pulled from a major platform until further notice. I can't recall in recent memory when that has happened to a major title release.
I think the real problem is that Cyberpunk hit a much larger audience than what was originally intended. This is not Call of Duty or GTA or (generic viking game).
I personally have done 5 of the endings and each one was a masterpiece in their own way. But the GTA audience will never even get to the end, not even once. Even if they do they won't understand the subtleties that is the sub-genera of sci-fi.
I bet there are people that "See bugs" in the game and don't even realize that there are intentional glitches in the game.
With all that said. They probably just should of released it on PC first.
I personally have done 5 of the endings and each one was a masterpiece in their own way. But the GTA audience will never even get to the end, not even once. Even if they do they won't understand the subtleties that is the sub-genera of sci-fi.
I bet there are people that "See bugs" in the game and don't even realize that there are intentional glitches in the game.
With all that said. They probably just should of released it on PC first.
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Buying or pre-ordering the game was giving them a chance. Things have escalated to another level now, unfortunately.
Decisions about whether or not to launch a game in large companies are not made by developers but by administrators.
The blind faith comment was mostly directed at Iskras acting as if it's an fact that CDPR will fix CP2077. Which it's just isn't at this point in time.
I already stated in my very first post in this thread. I do stand behind the idea of giving them a chance. They've got a lot to prove though. Time to step up CDPR!
My guess is that the devs, and I mean the devs not the management, saw the writing on the wall, and couldn't do anything about it. Lets be honest, if I was an employee at CDPR I'd seriously be considering leaving.
PR departments that aren't kept in the loop, so they can't do their jobs.
Devs who are forced into crunch time, after being promised they wouldn't be.
Bonuses being help under performance, until the public backlash was so great that the management had to backtrack and give them all.
Game being released in a practically unfinished state, and you can't tell me that someone in QA or the dev team didn't tell management that there were issues.
Management made the call, and my guess is that the devs were sitting around the water cooler going "this isn't going to be good".
I'm talking about the people who actually made Cyberpunk. Having the game you worked hard on pulled from a major platform has to be very disappointing for them. I sympathize with the devs.
I hope they can turn things around.
Between official statements - from the owners of a history and respect company - something assumed as a commitment, publicly and some people who I don't even know or who are, for certain reasons, upset and suppose anything, even surreal things ... I would believe what ?
I answer very calmly: I will believe in the facts and history built by CD.
No. Sorry, but no.
Premise: I bought a collector's edition of Cyberpunk 2077 and I didn't ask for a refund, nor I will. Still, people have every right to be upset and CDPR deserves nothing.
Let's repeat this once again: they are NOT your friends, their friendly behaviour it's nothing more than a marketing strategy. They are not a charitable foundation, they do this for money. We are not angry brats, but paying customers. They LIED, more than once, consciously; they hid PS4 and XBOXONE performances - and beware: it was no mistake, they did it purposely, to prevent people from seeing those versions of the game. We own them nothing. Nothing.
This game is in a tragicomic state: bug, glitches, terrible (euphemism) performances, missing contents, awful mechanics. And again, this technical disaster is not even the main problem. The main problem stays the same: dishonesty, zero transparency, terrible planning.
They were polishing this game, do you remember? One year of polishing and... surprise: it's a fucking beta! Someone was lying here.
Premise: I bought a collector's edition of Cyberpunk 2077 and I didn't ask for a refund, nor I will. Still, people have every right to be upset and CDPR deserves nothing.
Let's repeat this once again: they are NOT your friends, their friendly behaviour it's nothing more than a marketing strategy. They are not a charitable foundation, they do this for money. We are not angry brats, but paying customers. They LIED, more than once, consciously; they hid PS4 and XBOXONE performances - and beware: it was no mistake, they did it purposely, to prevent people from seeing those versions of the game. We own them nothing. Nothing.
This game is in a tragicomic state: bug, glitches, terrible (euphemism) performances, missing contents, awful mechanics. And again, this technical disaster is not even the main problem. The main problem stays the same: dishonesty, zero transparency, terrible planning.
They were polishing this game, do you remember? One year of polishing and... surprise: it's a fucking beta! Someone was lying here.
I'll give them a chance, because I love what I've already played. By that I mean the stuff they usually nail. Story, graphics, stuff like that. And I loved all three of the Witcher games.
On the flip side though, their management needs to be restructured severely. And by restructured, I mean people need to be let go. This reeks of a situation where management got too high off of the sweet cash from the Witcher 3's success and their ego's and greed went through the roof. At least to me.
If this keeps up, won't be long before they're either gone, or the next EA.
On the flip side though, their management needs to be restructured severely. And by restructured, I mean people need to be let go. This reeks of a situation where management got too high off of the sweet cash from the Witcher 3's success and their ego's and greed went through the roof. At least to me.
If this keeps up, won't be long before they're either gone, or the next EA.
And I get it and I hope they really do step up. If you look at so many of the other great studios who have been lost to the likes of the Garbage known as Activision, EA, Cuckman who has singlehandledy destroyed Naughty Dog just to name a few. I really do hope they get it right. Very few good development houses left.
But there has been no commitment past making the game playable and more stable. That's the tip of the iceberg here.Between official statements - from the owners of a history and respect company - something assumed as a commitment, publicly and some people who I don't even know or who are, for certain reasons, upset and suppose anything, even surreal things ... I would believe what ?
I answer very calmly: I will believe in the facts and history built by CD.
And.. what are people supposing that is surreal here?
Content was cut - that's a fact.
They advertised the game as much more than it is - that's a fact
They hid the actual state of the game on last-gen consoles - that's a fact
Those are all verifiable fact here.
I'm genuinely confused as to what you're trying to claim here. I'm not entirely certain if it's just the language barrier but of the complaints are not even remotely outlandish at all.
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You got that right.
Here's hoping CDPR does not fall into that same category of destitute studios.
Yet this will hurt everyone involved in the gaming industry.
More and more players will become sceptical over upcoming big AAA products because of games like this.
The last game i pre-ordered that really was worth every cent i spent, was DOOM Eternal.