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Sharpy47

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#41
Oct 10, 2015
Runs great for me @1080p : GTX 970 4gb, 8GB RAM, i5

Delete user.settings INI file in My Documents / Witcher 3. And let the GoG/Steam re-install it again. FPS increased instantly for me. GTX 970 4gb / 8gb ram - having constant 55-60 fps @ 1080p in velen/skellige with all settings set on Ultra, hairworks on, AAx2. In Novigrad it's about 50fps. Game is smooth as hell. And I love that shutter while riding Roach is finally gone!
 
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AlexGutMed

Rookie
#42
Oct 10, 2015
What did you do exactly? I deleted de user.settings, reinstalled it and nothing improved.

---------- Updated at 04:53 PM ----------

What did you do exactly?

Edit:

I deleted user.settings in C:\Users\username\Documents\The Witcher 3, repair/verify the game but it said not changes applied, then I ran the game and it said user.settings modified to default but performance didn't improve.
 
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Cadefoster84

Forum regular
#43
Oct 10, 2015
I tried deleting the ini files as well but I'm still dropping into the 40s in Novigrad. I even tried using the low graphical preset but the frame rate remained unchanged Neither gpu or cpu is being maxed out according to after burner so i'm not quite sure whats going on here.
 
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beowulf556

Rookie
#44
Oct 10, 2015
Alright I'm hopping on this thread, game has become uplayable for me as I can't get over 13FPS.
AMD 9590
2X GTX 780 Hydros
16GB Ram
Evo 850 SSD


I've done some benching and other game testing, my system appears to be in order. Tried deleting the user settings ini file but it didn't make a difference.
 
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PilotGW

Rookie
#45
Oct 10, 2015
I've tried deleting the ini files too. Made no difference. Verified integrity of cache. 1 file missing and redownloaded. Made no difference. I lowered all graphics settings down to low. Made no difference.

Still sitting at ~45 fps in Novigrad. It's so weird. :dizzy:
 
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beowulf556

Rookie
#46
Oct 10, 2015
Also just noticed the game is only using 25% of my cpu at the most... is that normal for everyone else?
 
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jmarron

Rookie
#47
Oct 10, 2015
:hrhr::cheers2::shuriken:
 
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FANTADEFENDER

Senior user
#48
Oct 10, 2015
beowulf556 said:
Alright I'm hopping on this thread, game has become uplayable for me as I can't get over 13FPS.
AMD 9590
2X GTX 780 Hydros
16GB Ram
Evo 850 SSD


I've done some benching and other game testing, my system appears to be in order. Tried deleting the user settings ini file but it didn't make a difference.
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A FX and two 780s? I dont think that this was a good idea tbh.
 
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Velorian1810

Rookie
#49
Oct 10, 2015
Hmm, I've just found out that DSR also no longer works properly. -,-

---------- Updated at 07:40 PM ----------

Okay, I tweaked my ini, updated a view mods, Reshade/SweetFX and DSR are working again and the game does perform better. FINALLY !
I have a strange feeling that deleting the d3d11.dll file solved it for me.
It's not perfect but definitely better than before.

If you're interested, check out my ini-file.
[Gameplay/EntityPool]
SpawnedLimit=130
[Hidden]
HasSeenDLCMessage=true
HasSetup=true
HasSeenEP1WelcomeMessage=true
uiVerticalFrameScale=1
uiHorizontalFrameScale=1
[Localization]
RequestedSpeechLanguage=
SpeechLanguage=DE
RequestedTextLanguage=
TextLanguage=DE
Subtitles=false
[Viewport]
VSync=false
Resolution="1920x1080"
FullScreenMode=2
VSyncThreshold=0
OutputMonitor=0
[Hud]
MessageModule=false
OnelinersModule=false
ItemInfoModule=false
HudSize=0
ConsoleModule=false
ControlsFeedbackModule=false
BoatHealthModule=false
[Budget]
TerrainTileMipDataBudget=100
TerrainTileMinTimeout=2
DecalBudget=100
TerrainTileTimeout=10
OcclusionQueryAdditionalMemory=5
TerrainTileLoadingTimeout=5
[KNGMenu]
Saturation=0
[ContentManager/Mods]
MaxNameLength=64
Enabled=true
[Audio]
MusicVolume=60
Subtitles=true
[LoadingScreen/TCR]
ShowProgress=true
[Game]
DoNotPauseWhileStopped=false
[Scripts]
DebugScriptsForceFlush=true
DebugScriptsLogDir=
[PostProcess]
AllowChromaticAberration=false
SharpenAmount=0
MotionBlurPositionTreshold=0.05
AllowVignette=false
MotionBlurRotationTreshold=1
AllowMotionBlur=false
AllowAntialias=false
SSAOSolution=2
AllowBlur=false
[Input]
PadVibrationEnabled=true
KeyboardCooldownSpeed=0.1
InvertCameraXOnMouse=false
InvertCameraYOnMouse=false
CameraAutoRotX=true
InvertCameraX=false
UIMouseSensitivity=1
CameraAutoRotY=true
RightStickCameraSensitivity=0.795918
InvertCameraY=true
RightStickAimSensitivity=0.795918
MouseSensitivity=1
[DLC]
DlcEnabled_dlc_010_001=1
DlcEnabled_dlc_015_001=1
DlcEnabled_dlc_005_001=1
DlcEnabled_dlc_007_001=1
DlcEnabled_dlc_013_001=1
DlcEnabled_dlc_004_001=0
DlcEnabled_dlc_006_001=0
DlcEnabled_dlc_001_001=1
DlcEnabled_dlc_008_001=1
DlcEnabled_dlc_011_001=1
DlcEnabled_dlc_002_001=1
DlcEnabled_ep1=1
DlcEnabled_dlc_014_001=1
DlcEnabled_dlc_009_001=1
DlcEnabled_dlc_012_001=1
DlcEnabled_dlc_003_001=1
DlcEnabled_dlc_016_001=1
DlcEnabled_dlc_011_002=0
[Gameplay]
Difficulty=0
AutosaveTimeInterval=15
EnableUberMovement=1
[LevelOfDetail]
SwarmHideDistance=200
DecalsHideDistance=80
DimmerHideDistance=60
DynamicDecalsHideDistance=20
StripeHideDistance=60
[General]
ConfigVersion=2
[LoadingScreen/Editor]
Disabled=false
[LoadingOverlay/TCR]
FadeOutCooldownExtraTime=1
FadeInSpinnerTime=1
NoninteractiveSpinnerTime=3
FadeOutSpinnerTime=1
NoninteractiveEndCooldown=1
[Visuals]
AllowClothSimulationOnGpu=false
InventoryBgColorScaleB=0.036
InventoryFixedLuminance=0.25
InventoryBgColorScaleG=0.034
MovieFramerate=60
GammaValue=0.7
InventoryBgColorScaleR=0.02
[Rendering]
GrassDensity=2400
DecalsSpawnDistanceCutoff=10
GlobalOceanTesselationFactor=64
CascadeShadowFadeTreshold=0.1
HairWorksGlobalWidthLimit=5
CascadeShadowDistanceScale2=3
MaxTextureAnizotropy=16
HairWorksGlobalDensityQuality=1
TextureMemoryBudget=1600
CascadeShadowDistanceScale3=2
HairWorkstGlobalDensityLimit=2
TextureStreamingHeadsDistanceLimitSq=200
MeshLODDistanceScale=1
ScaleformTextureUnstreamDelay=2.5
DecalsChance=1
TerrainReadAheadDistance=200
HairWorksLevel=2
TerrainScreenSpaceErrorThreshold=1.6
TerrainScreenSpaceErrorThresholdFar=3.5
MovieFramerate=60
TextureStreamingCharacterDistanceLimitSq=450
MaxTerrainShadowAtlasCount=4
TextureStreamingDistanceLimitSq=80000
HairWorksGlobalDetailLODFactor=1
TextureStreamingReduceGameplayLOD=false
TextureInFlightCountBudget=12
TerrainErrorMetricMultiplier=6
CascadeShadowmapSize=3072
CascadeShadowDistanceScale0=4
MeshRenderingDistanceScale=10
CascadeShadowQuality=4
CascadeShadowDistanceScale1=4
[Input/Gestures]
EnableSwipe=true
EnablePan=true
EnableGestures=true
EnablePinch=true
[LoadingScreen]
FadeInTime=3
SkipShowWithAnyKey=true
GameRevealTime=3
SkipHideDelay=3
SkipInputDelay=0.25
FadeOutTime=1.5
SkipAutoshow=false
[Engine]
LimitFPS=60
[Rendering/SpeedTree]
GrassGenerationEfficiency=0.075
GrassDistanceScale=1.5
FoliageDistanceScale=1.8
FoliageShadowDistanceScale=54
GrassRingSize=16777216
[Gameplay/BoatCamera]
BoatLocalSpaceCamera=false
[Save]
ShowCompatWarning=false
[Streaming/Textures]
UseMipRefiner=true
[Kinect]
Kinect=true
[Foliage]
MaxVisibilityDepth=24
 
Last edited: Oct 15, 2015
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beowulf556

Rookie
#50
Oct 10, 2015
FANTADEFENDER said:
A FX and two 780s? I dont think that this was a good idea tbh.
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Well I respectfully disagree- my system kicks ass. Like I said, benchmarks and other games are excellent. There is something wrong with my setup after this latest game patch.

---------- Updated at 09:28 PM ----------

After changing my physx setting to CPU, my frames are up to 40 now and my cpu usage is much higher (40%ish).
 
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FANTADEFENDER

Senior user
#51
Oct 10, 2015
beowulf556 said:
Well I respectfully disagree- my system kicks ass. Like I said, benchmarks and other games are excellent. There is something wrong with my setup after this latest game patch.

---------- Updated at 09:28 PM ----------

After changing my physx setting to CPU, my frames are up to 40 now and my cpu usage is much higher (40%ish).
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I meant that AMD CPUs perform rather poor in games compared to Intel CPUs thus bottlenecking your 780s.
 
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jacksk3llington

Rookie
#52
Oct 10, 2015
I literally get single digit framerates on an i74770k/8gb Ram/GTX 980Ti/1440pGsync. Literally 1-3 fps and then a jump up to 40 and then back down to 1-3, up to 70 down to 14. It's crazy erratic and literally unplayable. I'm on the most recent Nvidia drivers(ones released for Battlefront Beta)I haven't played since 1.08 but it was great then and I had no issues. I tried following some of the suggestions here to no avail. Deleted the user.settings and the associated files with no change. I reinstalled the game, no difference. Steam copy btw. Any suggestions CDPR?


I was hoping to do finish my 3rd playthrough on a new game+ before the release of the expansion. Seems like that won't happen. Bums me out a bit.
 
Last edited: Oct 11, 2015
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D4rKy2014

Rookie
#53
Oct 11, 2015
SigilFey said:
It's likely ongoing work to balance and optimize the rendering engine's draw calls, eliminating the horrendous pop-in. The problem is, you can't have your cake and eat it, too. If the graphics are as intensive as they were, DirectX and the drivers can't keep up with that much detail for that many procedural calls. Pop-in becomes pretty bad. If you decrease the graphical fidelity here and there, the drivers and APIs can keep up with the engine. Pop-in is mostly gone, but everything doesn't look quite so shiny. (It may slow things down some, as now more resources are being devoted to pre-caching data instead of drawing frames.)

Six of one; half-a-dozen of another. I vote for less pop-in. I don't care if I can't count the hairs in Geralt's beard. If the pop-in issue occurs, sometimes Geralt doesn't even have a beard...or a face...
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I prefer better eye candy over better fps and lower res textures, if i want medium to low graphics i play on them consoles lol.

I have not seen yet any downgrades neither fps chanced, running on gtx 980 ti sli here compared with 16gb of ram and a 5930k cpu i am noty complaining on ultra settings.

If folk complain about its running lesser then before then just put settings from ultra to high, eyecandy is my first priority with pc gaming fps comes later.
 
Last edited: Oct 11, 2015
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iz.podpolja

Rookie
#54
Oct 11, 2015
If you have also verified your game cache, you might also want to try removing d3d11.dll from Witcher3.exe folder. That seems to help in many cases.
 
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Jerichok

Rookie
#55
Oct 11, 2015
Same problem here with my GTX980, the game used to play under a constant 60fps eveywhere. But now it lost 10-15 fps in novigrad, especially in the area where many characters around.
 
SigilFey

SigilFey

Moderator
#56
Oct 11, 2015
D4rKy2014 said:
I prefer better eye candy over better fps and lower res textures, if i want medium to low graphics i play on them consoles lol.

I have not seen yet any downgrades neither fps chanced, running on gtx 980 ti sli here compared with 16gb of ram and a 5930k cpu i am noty complaining on ultra settings.

If folk complain about its running lesser then before then just put settings from ultra to high, eyecandy is my first priority with pc gaming fps comes later.
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That's cool. I agree about the level of detail. I truly can't detect any nerfed textures or anything on my end. Game looks like it always has to me.


To everyone still having performance issues:

It is critical that you zero out all of the tweaks/mods you may have been using for past versions. There have been some pretty significant changes to the rendering system. If you're getting very low FPS, the problem could be the game or your drivers, true -- but it's just as likely that some change to the config files that used to increase your FPS is now having the opposite effect.

-Disable all mods and remove any mod managers. Uninstall everything.
-Delete your user.config (and any other file in that folder you may have altered). Do NOT delete the save-game folder.
-Validate your installation and local files through Steam / GOG.
-Restore your GPU control panel settings to their defaults for witcher3.exe.
-Launch the game.
-Be sure EVERYTHING in-game has returned to its default settings through the Options Menus.
-Exit to Windows, and re-launch the game.
-Load each of your saves (at least the ones you intend to play onward from), and see if your performance has improved.

Now you can begin raising settings, tweaking, and adding mods again to see how it goes. It's almost guaranteed not to work exactly as it has in the past. People with high-end cards (like the 980 ti and Titan X) may not notice much difference from 1.08 simply because these cards can bull right through any slowdowns. Others may have to tweak in a very different way to get smooth performance again.

And remember that what works for you is not guaranteed to work for anyone else. Every system is different. Apply tweaks systematically and introduce only a few at a time. Some may not be necessary anymore.
 
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Jerichok

Rookie
#57
Oct 11, 2015
SigilFey said:
That's cool. I agree about the level of detail. I truly can't detect any nerfed textures or anything on my end. Game looks like it always has to me.


To everyone still having performance issues:

It is critical that you zero out all of the tweaks/mods you may have been using for past versions. There have been some pretty significant changes to the rendering system. If you're getting very low FPS, the problem could be the game or your drivers, true -- but it's just as likely that some change to the config files that used to increase your FPS is now having the opposite effect.

-Disable all mods and remove any mod managers. Uninstall everything.
-Delete your user.config (and any other file in that folder you may have altered). Do NOT delete the save-game folder.
-Validate your installation and local files through Steam / GOG.
-Restore your GPU control panel settings to their defaults for witcher3.exe.
-Launch the game.
-Be sure EVERYTHING in-game has returned to its default settings through the Options Menus.
-Exit to Windows, and re-launch the game.
-Load each of your saves (at least the ones you intend to play onward from), and see if your performance has improved.

Now you can begin raising settings, tweaking, and adding mods again to see how it goes. It's almost guaranteed not to work exactly as it has in the past. People with high-end cards (like the 980 ti and Titan X) may not notice much difference from 1.08 simply because these cards can bull right through any slowdowns. Others may have to tweak in a very different way to get smooth performance again.

And remember that what works for you is not guaranteed to work for anyone else. Every system is different. Apply tweaks systematically and introduce only a few at a time. Some may not be necessary anymore.
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delete the d3d11.dll actually improve the performance, I got a stable 60 fps finally, but I wonder it is the best resolution or not.
 
SigilFey

SigilFey

Moderator
#58
Oct 11, 2015
Jerichok said:
delete the d3d11.dll actually improve the performance, I got a stable 60 fps finally, but I wonder it is the best resolution or not.
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I really have no idea why that would be the case. It's most likely an OS conflict. If you're running Windows 10, it's possible that the .DLL is not optimized for it. It could be a driver issue. It could be a weird conflict somewhere else on your system.

On the whole, if the devs included the file in the installation, there was probably a reason. You may discover the "why" of it at a very inopportune moment. Or, you may complete the entire game without issue and be like, "What, d3d.dll? Huh? Did you say sumpin'!?"
 
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Hyperhen

Rookie
#59
Oct 11, 2015
Deleted d3d11.dll too and what do you think? Problem solved, +15 fps
 
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Eliwan

Forum veteran
#60
Oct 11, 2015
I have set:

- Frame rate unlimited
- Deleted files user.settings.
- Restart the game

Everything is back in place as before!
 
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