Performance issues + Broken gameplay features

[RAMPAGE572]

Performance issues + Broken gameplay features

I'm just going to start a thread with all the issues/bugs that I have seen or experienced whilst playing The Witcher 3... sorry if some were mentioned previously but here goes.


Specs:

Intel Core i5 2500K @ 4.5Ghz (Overclocked)

Asrock Z77 Extreme 6 motherboard

Kingston 16GB 1600Mhz oced to 1866Mhz

ASUS GTX 980 STRIX OC Edition (further OCed)

ASUS GTX 770 2GB OC Edition (dedicated to physx)

Corsair RM850 PSU



Issues:

MAJOR ONE - CRASHES CONSTANTLY AFTER PATCH 1.04...????????

- I set the cutscenes to 60fps in the config.. and they stay at 24fps and lag a little? (based on first cutscene video)
EDIT
Giantmoth - Thread on the same issue
- Cutscene FPS Stutter
http://forums.cdprojektred.com/threads/36654-PC-Cutscene-FPS-drop
- Poor grass quality
- Poor Texture quality even on Ultra
Here's some screens with the game maxed out with Grass Density on Ultra and High, with performance results showing.

Grass Density + Foliage Distance on High
http://images.akamai.steamuserconte...539/B03F19C2ED4CDF98937BC4EEE2F0B216A152F263/

Grass Density + Foliage Distance on Ultra
http://images.akamai.steamuserconte...539/B03F19C2ED4CDF98937BC4EEE2F0B216A152F263/

Grass in general looks horrible regardless of the setting it is on, how did you manage to make the Grass look worse than The Witcher 2... how. Serious question.

- HBAO+ does next to nothing to shadows
Never really been a fan of HBAO+ however in this game it basically does nothing at all. Proof that it gives a slight extra shadow but nothing like Splinter Cell Blacklist... not even close.

HBAO+ off??
//images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/537397842080403396/B2C4015CE1B639810CFD01104C21D0647B7830CE/

HBAO+ on???
http://images.akamai.steamuserconte...380/3A613D1752AB5C41D6BD5CDEF169A6AB3D369A23/

What is the point of HBAO+ if the implementation is worse than SSAO?

- Broken Character screen, not showing Geralt
- Trading items are worth next to nothing, when the item appears in the traders inventory it is worth +92% of the original trade value?
- Unlocked framerate causes the game to stutter (within a range of 82fps-42fps) whilst panning or turning around quickly
GPU usage may be tied to this, due to decreasing when the frame drop occurs
- Vsync causes unstable framerates (~47-51fps), sure it's above 30fps but it is still not very playable if it is stuttering or hitching around constantly



Gameplay alterations:

- Character unlocks are hard to understand compared to The Witcher 2's skill tree. If you could add or someone could mod a similar skill tree which include a broken up tree that doesn't force you to unlock skills you do not wont.



I noticed that the patch notes for 1.03 included a so called "performance improvement" section....? Exactly what performance did you fix because it doesn't feel like anything was fixed in that regard at all.

"Improves stability in gameplay and the UI
Improves performance especially in cutscenes and gameplay
Fixes grass and foliage popping that could occur after density parameters were changed"

None of this seems to of actually done anything, grass and foliage still pop in and alter on medium-high, it appears to do this within a range of 50-100 metres? Which doesn't look good at all.


EDIT:
ISSUES:

- GPU Overclocking causes the game to crash
- Signs not responding fast enough or the wait time is extremely long compared to The Witcher 2 for no reason
- Fall damage is way to much, distance 5m causes you to loose around 50% health?

guzaop Thread on the same issue
- Fall Damage, too high
http://forums.cdprojektred.com/threads/39063-Fall-Damage-too-high-FIX

Darkwalker
- Alt Tab while in full screen can cause the game to stop responding.
- Game minimizes to windows and cannot be maximized again. (http://forums.cdprojektred.com/threa...33#post1696033)Darkwalker:

ttchip
- Inability to grab high ledges
http://forums.cdprojektred.com/thre...ity-to-grab-high-ledges?p=1688946#post1688946

fromplsnerf
- Crash To Desktop No error messages (FX 8350, GTX 970)
http://forums.cdprojektred.com/thre...sages-(FX-8350-GTX-970)?p=1672972#post1672972

bikeracer4487
[Broken Quest] Of Dairy and Darkness - Required Quest Item Missing
http://forums.cdprojektred.com/thre...ired-Quest-Item-Missing?p=1689945#post1689945

ProtoQBit
[V1.03] Fast travel broken
http://forums.cdprojektred.com/threads/39668-V1-03-Fast-travel-broken

GamaH
[PC] Geralt doesn't appear in the inventory menu.
http://forums.cdprojektred.com/thre...r-in-the-inventory-menu?p=1696020#post1696020

Damun
Game freezes continously, and randomly.
http://forums.cdprojektred.com/thre...ontinously-and-randomly?p=1688990#post1688990


EDIT:
Gameplay Improvements

Darkwalker
- Backwards Alchemy system where you can only carry a limited number of any consumables and the way to replenish those consumables is to meditate
- Would prefer a system with no limit on number I can carry and craft new ones when I need, not craft once and then need to use a different mechanic to replenish.

Rocquito
- Several UI suggestions (with a bit of gameplay) for next patches/options/revisions
Quite the list of UI suggestions in this thread
http://forums.cdprojektred.com/thre...tches-options-revisions?p=1694942#post1694942


Once again performance is not fixed with a GTX 980 either with the latest Nvidia driver (353.30) or any of the previous hotfix drivers up to 353.49 as well as the latest game update (1.06)... what is going on here, the stuttering is not getting any better.

I will say this again, THE FOLIAGE CAUSES THE GAME TO STUTTER AT ANYTHING HIGHER THAN MEDIUM... needs an optimization patch of some kind in-order to sustain a stable framerate around 60fps without sudden drops.

If I appear to be rude, it is because I am angry that the game performs the way it does, this was noticed by myself within the first 40 minutes of playing the game.

Also if you have any other issues please feel free to mention them and I will add them to the thread, cheers.

 

[Darkwalker]

Specs:
Intel Core i7-5820K, 3,3GHZ/3,6GHz Turbo, 6 Core
Crucial M550 SSD 1TB / Seagate® Desktop SSHD 4TB
Gigabyte GeForce G1 GAMING GTX 980 4GB x2 (Dual SLI)
HyperX Predator DDR4 3000MHz 16GB
Win 7 Pro

Issues:
Alt Tab while in full screen can cause the game to stop responding.
Game minimizes to windows and cannot be maximized again. (http://forums.cdprojektred.com/thre...s-cannot-maximize-again?p=1696033#post1696033)

Gameplay:
Backwards Alchemy system where you can only carry a limited number of any consumables and the way to replenish those consumables is to meditate
Would prefer a system with no limit on number I can carry and craft new ones when I need, not craft once and them need to use a different mechanic to replenish.

 

[RAMPAGE572]

Specs:
Intel Core i7-5820K, 3,3GHZ/3,6GHz Turbo, 6 Core
Crucial M550 SSD 1TB / Seagate® Desktop SSHD 4TB
Gigabyte GeForce G1 GAMING GTX 980 4GB x2 (Dual SLI)
HyperX Predator DDR4 3000MHz 16GB
Win 7 Pro

Issues:
Alt Tab while in full screen can cause the game to stop responding.
Game minimizes to windows and cannot be maximized again. (http://forums.cdprojektred.com/thre...s-cannot-maximize-again?p=1696033#post1696033)

Gameplay:
Backwards Alchemy system where you can only carry a limited number of any consumables and the way to replenish those consumables is to meditate
Would prefer a system with no limit on number I can carry and craft new ones when I need, not craft once and them need to use a different mechanic to replenish.

Yeah I noticed the alt tabbing issue as well, forgot to put it in whoops lol. As for an unlimited amount to carry... that sounds like a mod.

I believe this is what you mean right: - http://www.nexusmods.com/witcher3/mods/8/?

 

[Darkwalker]

Yeah I noticed the alt tabbing issue as well, forgot to put it in whoops lol. As for an unlimited amount to carry... that sounds like a mod.

I believe this is what you mean right: - http://www.nexusmods.com/witcher3/mods/8/?

No what I mean is unlimited number, not weight, though the weight could use some adjustement on some items anyway
I want to be able to carry any number of potions, bombs, etc I want to, not be limited to the arbitrary numbers we have now like max 2 bombs or 3 potions of any type.
That I can only equip one or two types I dont mind, that just means I need to think about how I prepare which makes it more challenging and fun.

But if I want to carry 17 potions why should I not be allowed to, why must I be limited to 3?
And why should I need to meditate to replenish my potions, not to mention that you only need one ingredient to make more when you do, that makes no sense to me
The logical thing would be for me to have to make them myself using ingredients I find like you do in most other RPG games.

I swear these games are becoming more and more simplified, pretty soon the game will play itself for you if they keep going like this.
I'm tired of the hand holding, I want a challenge, I want to figure things out for myself and do things my way, not this easy mode stuff where the game makes things for me and tells me where and how to do things.

And one more thing comes to mind, thats the prices for items.
When I sell an item to a vendor I only get a minuscule fraction of what the vendor charges for the item if I want to buy it.

Sell and Axe and I get maybe 10 crowns, while the vendor sells the same axe back to me for 10-20 times what I got for it.

 

[RAMPAGE572]

No what I mean is unlimited number, not weight, though the weight could use some adjustement on some items anyway
I want to be able to carry any number of potions, bombs, etc I want to, not be limited to the arbitrary numbers we have now like max 2 bombs or 3 potions of any type.
That I can only equip one or two types I dont mind, that just means I need to think about how I prepare which makes it more challenging and fun.

But if I want to carry 17 potions why should I not be allowed to, why must I be limited to 3?
And why should I need to meditate to replenish my potions, not to mention that you only need one ingredient to make more when you do, that makes no sense to me
The logical thing would be for me to have to make them myself using ingredients I find like you do in most other RPG games.

I swear these games are becoming more and more simplified, pretty soon the game will play itself for you if they keep going like this.
I'm tired of the hand holding, I want a challenge, I want to figure things out for myself and do things my way, not this easy mode stuff where the game makes things for me and tells me where and how to do things.

And one more thing comes to mind, thats the prices for items.
When I sell an item to a vendor I only get a minuscule fraction of what the vendor charges for the item if I want to buy it.

Sell and Axe and I get maybe 10 crowns, while the vendor sells the same axe back to me for 10-20 times what I got for it.

Wow I wasn't even aware that was a limitation in this game... that is truly weird not gonna lie. As all the other games allowed you to carry whatever you wanted?

 

[RAMPAGE572]

Quite a lot of this stuff is still prominent...

 

[Darkwalker]

Wow I wasn't even aware that was a limitation in this game... that is truly weird not gonna lie. As all the other games allowed you to carry whatever you wanted?

In my opinion they basically work as if they were an item with a certain number of charges on them
Just craft any type of potion you have the mats for and you will see it in your inventory listed as 3/3.
Use one and you see it have 2/3, and when you meditate it replenishes automatically to max, if you have enough alcohol for it.

I would rather see a system like Skyrim where you can make and carry as many as you like.
And if you carry 17 and then use one, you should have 16 left, rather than have say 16/17 left.
I can accept only being able to equip say 3 potions of any type, thats reasonable as I only got so much space to put equipment on, but since my inventory is just limited by weight, I want to be able to carry as many potions and bombs in my inventory as I like.

 

[RAMPAGE572]

In my opinion they basically work as if they were an item with a certain number of charges on them
Just craft any type of potion you have the mats for and you will see it in your inventory listed as 3/3.
Use one and you see it have 2/3, and when you meditate it replenishes automatically to max, if you have enough alcohol for it.

I would rather see a system like Skyrim where you can make and carry as many as you like.
And if you carry 17 and then use one, you should have 16 left, rather than have say 16/17 left.
I can accept only being able to equip say 3 potions of any type, thats reasonable as I only got so much space to put equipment on, but since my inventory is just limited by weight, I want to be able to carry as many potions and bombs in my inventory as I like.

I'd rather them "actually" fix performance rather than saying they are...? My performance keeps getting worse.

 

[Darkwalker]

I would like to add, that the prices for items could use some adjustment.
Right now they feel severely skewed in favor of the vendors.

If I sell and Axe and I get maybe 10 crowns, I can then see the vendor have it in stock for up to 10 times what I got for it, sometimes more.

I'm fine with vendors charging more for the items than I get for them, but I would say 3-4 times what they sell for max.

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I'd rather them "actually" fix performance rather than saying they are...? My performance keeps getting worse.

Oh I agree with you there.
They should fix performance issues and bugs first, I can live with the backwards alchemy system until that is done as its at least working as it is.
I just wanted to explain how I would have preferred the alchemy system to work.

 

[RAMPAGE572]

I would like to add, that the prices for items could use some adjustment.
Right now they feel severely skewed in favor of the vendors.

If I sell and Axe and I get maybe 10 crowns, I can then see the vendor have it in stock for up to 10 times what I got for it, sometimes more.

I'm fine with vendors charging more for the items than I get for them, but I would say 3-4 times what they sell for max.

---------- Updated at 05:42 PM ----------



Oh I agree with you there.
They should fix performance issues and bugs first, I can live with the backwards alchemy system until that is done as its at least working as it is.
I just wanted to explain how I would have preferred the alchemy system to work.

Ahh ok sorry I was a little confussed, as for your issues with traders. I feel the same way, although there is a mod currently which should fix this

Either of these should suit your fancy.. for the time being at least.

Wealthy Vendors with Fair Sale - http://www.nexusmods.com/witcher3/mods/6/?

Fair Sale - Better sale prices - http://www.nexusmods.com/witcher3/mods/4/?

I use Fair Sale better prices, made by the same guy but I use the 75% one.

 

[RAMPAGE572]

After patch 1.05 the games stuttering appears to still be present, if not worse than 1.04? CD Projekt what on Earth is going on here?

 

[-HaVoK-]

PPPPPPPFFFFFFFFFFFFF.After patch i have unreal FREEZE. And.BROKEN ALCHEMY.After patch 1.05, mutagen combinations in the alchemy tab are broken for me! Now when I try to combine lesser mutagens into mutagens or greater mutagens the game says "already crafted" even though I still have 6 lesser mutagens to combine.Aaaaa.Hahaha where shadows of fires?Aaa optimization?Help,help help.CDPR answer me-when,WHEN i can play in this (beta) game??

 

[grpm]

PPPPPPPFFFFFFFFFFFFF.After patch i have unreal FREEZE. And.BROKEN ALCHEMY.After patch 1.05, mutagen combinations in the alchemy tab are broken for me! Now when I try to combine lesser mutagens into mutagens or greater mutagens the game says "already crafted" even though I still have 6 lesser mutagens to combine.Aaaaa.Hahaha where shadows of fires?Aaa optimization?Help,help help.CDPR answer me-when,WHEN i can play in this (beta) game??

+1

 

[RAMPAGE572]

PPPPPPPFFFFFFFFFFFFF.After patch i have unreal FREEZE. And.BROKEN ALCHEMY.After patch 1.05, mutagen combinations in the alchemy tab are broken for me! Now when I try to combine lesser mutagens into mutagens or greater mutagens the game says "already crafted" even though I still have 6 lesser mutagens to combine.Aaaaa.Hahaha where shadows of fires?Aaa optimization?Help,help help.CDPR answer me-when,WHEN i can play in this (beta) game??

Not sure if half of that is English but I think I agree... lol

 

[RAMPAGE572]

It is sad how you never see any member of the development team in the forum...

 

[RAMPAGE572]

No one.. really

 

[thelostdunmer]

I should have resisted that patch damn it. What the flying fuck am I suppose to do with 40+ mutagens that can't be combined together? Yeah, yeah there's a supposedly fix for that but why do I have to do that? It was working before and now it's broken?

I'm seeing people also that are not moving and just stands there with both hands in the air specially in Novigrad. Haven't seen that in 1.04 or 1.03. Why all of a sudden? What's going on here CDPR?

 

[RAMPAGE572]

I should have resisted that patch damn it. What the flying fuck am I suppose to do with 40+ mutagens that can't be combined together? Yeah, yeah there's a supposedly fix for that but why do I have to do that? It was working before and now it's broken?

I'm seeing people also that are not moving and just stands there with both hands in the air specially in Novigrad. Haven't seen that in 1.04 or 1.03. Why all of a sudden? What's going on here CDPR?

Hmm have you done any modifications to the game at all, if not maybe try verifying the game either with GoG or Steam versions. Does it happen everywhere or just in a few places.

Sounds like the animations of the characters aren't working...?

 

[thelostdunmer]

That's the odd part. I have no mods at all. And have a fresh new version of the game. Man, I really should stop updating Witcher 3.

 

[RAMPAGE572]

That's the odd part. I have no mods at all. And have a fresh new version of the game. Man, I really should stop updating Witcher 3.

I use the Steam version... which has no beta patches to allow me to revert, CD Projekt need to start adding their patches as BETA's first because they either lost all coding knowledge or just don't care anymore.