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Cs__sz__r

Rookie
#3,461
Mar 18, 2013
Aver said:
Dishonored devs explained why it is like that. When they didn't have hand-holding waypoints in Dishonored then more than half of testers were stuck and they didn't know what to do next. This is disadvantage of games being mainstream - half of gamers are morons.
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I remember that article. Dishonored's biggest advertisement point was non-linear levels. They used the party level as the test and people would try to get in legally and the guards would say no. And people would not even try because they were turned down.
 
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Glaroug.531

Forum veteran
#3,462
Mar 18, 2013
I never succeeded in getting summoned for some reason, and I usually fail at summoning people too :(style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; outline: 0px; font-size: 13.333333969116211px; vertical-align: middle; background-color: rgb(51, 51, 51); color: rgb(218, 218, 218); line-height: 20px;"> I can invade and get invaded without a problem though - I guess my destiny is to be a darkwraith.
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Getting invaded is always fun--except when someone invades the host I am sworn to protect as a Sunbro. I pity the fool who rains on our Jolly Co-Operation!




But yes, I hear online play is getting redone in Dark Souls 2. I think there getting dedicated servers instead of the players acting as hosts. It would be nice if they fund a way to have a larger pool of available hosts as far as level range. NG+ is no picnic at level 20, but I'm too afraid to advance because the summons are too good at this level.
 
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meezookeewee

Senior user
#3,463
Mar 18, 2013
Still playing Kingdoms of Amalur. It's really easy to get distracted in that game. Decent game, though.
 
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cmdr_silverbolt

Senior user
#3,464
Mar 18, 2013
@ Aver: I wasn't talking about forums, but truth be told I don't know anyone who is nerdy about games. It's true that not everyone scrutinizes games as much as so-called hardcore gamers, but everyone expects a video game to be entertaining, and having a formulaic game play structure is not entertaining for anyone. So it is frustrating when a game, e.g. ACI, presents a repetitive game play structure; nobody likes to do the same thing over and over.

It's not fair to say that modern games are wholly bad, or that much different in some aspects from games of the so-called golden era, but we have observed that their game play has a tendency to fall into a routine. I just don't believe that this tendency is as recent as we like to think. There were lazy developers back then, and there are lazy ones now.

It might feel like every form of entertainment is undergoing a creative slump, and this or that is to blame, but we only feel that way because we're living through this time; only the remarkable or outstanding is ever remembered, and perhaps our gaming era will become the golden era for another time. Besides, computer games are not in the position to have an extensive history, and describing something as the golden era at the moment is premature.

On topic though, everyone expects video games to be fun and entertaining, and game play which is repetitive or has a routine is not fun or new in games. And really, consumers are reasonably malleable, and with the right sort of presentation and persuasion they can be made willing to buy something we would not expect. So I don't believe it when people say it's the gamers' fault that games are crap nowadays, or that they are crap.
 
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Chewin3

Rookie
#3,465
Mar 18, 2013
Recently bought Final Fantasy VII from PSN. Never previously bothered with the FF franchise, even though I've been aware of its existence ever since I was a kid, but I put my AC3 experience on hold for awhile and was looking for an RPG game to play and a friend of mine recommended FF7 (and FF6 for that matter) as a 'must play game' when it comes to good RPGs.

While it has certainly received impressive scores / reviews, not exactly sure what to expect from it. But eh, guess I'll have to find out.
 
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volsung

Forum veteran
#3,466
Mar 18, 2013
I don't know what kind of games you like, but don't expect much from that kind of "RPG". Usually they don't have any decision making, choice and consequence or meaningful character development. They might have interesting stories and flashy, tactical combat which could be entertaining, but so called jRPGs lack most relevant role-playing elements. Instead there's lots of grinding and power gaining.

That said I have actually enjoyed some of these games, like Final Fantasy IV and Chrono Trigger. But if you want the more authentic experience stick to the PC :)
 
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prince_12

Rookie
#3,467
Mar 18, 2013
Chewin3 said:
Recently bought Final Fantasy VII from PSN. Never previously bothered with the FF franchise, even though I've been aware of its existence ever since I was a kid, but I put my AC3 experience on hold for awhile and was looking for an RPG game to play and a friend of mine recommended FF7 (and FF6 for that matter) as a 'must play game' when it comes to good RPGs.

While it has certainly received impressive scores / reviews, not exactly sure what to expect from it. But eh, guess I'll have to find out.
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Uuh, Final Fantasy, huh? Well as I have myself played FFVII (and other FF installments as well) I can vouch for that it is truly a spectacular game, with well written characters (Not only do you get a whole cast of characters, but they all are very different and have their own personalities), intriguing plot (mixed equal measures of romantic tension, conspiracy theory, action, pathos, comedy and no "good vs evil" story). It's definitely not your generic JRPG, which is one reason why it is so popular amongst gamers.

But if I know you right, it may not exactly be that type of game you'd expect. As Volsung said, it is after all an JRPG, and it doesn't offer you choices with consequences that impact the world. There are some small choices, mostly between characters, but nothing major. The characters are however very well written, and develop throughout the game. But I'm certain you will enjoy the plot, as well as the characters who accompany you through the journey. The main protagonist, while well written, I highly doubt he'd make it into your rooster of favorite protagonist, but you'll certainly not hate him.

But really, I urge you to give it a shot, and I'm sure you'll enjoy it, even with the outdated graphics.
 
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Dona.794

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#3,468
Mar 18, 2013
Chewin3 said:
Recently bought Final Fantasy VII from PSN. Never previously bothered with the FF franchise, even though I've been aware of its existence ever since I was a kid, but I put my AC3 experience on hold for awhile and was looking for an RPG game to play and a friend of mine recommended FF7 (and FF6 for that matter) as a 'must play game' when it comes to good RPGs.

While it has certainly received impressive scores / reviews, not exactly sure what to expect from it. But eh, guess I'll have to find out.
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I have to agree with others here, don't expect a 'standard' RPG.

I played it in high school, after hearing a lot about it, including a bunch of spoilers. Decided to go for it anyway and had a lot of fun. It's an enjoyable game - clichéd at times, but I loved how plain silly it would get. (This is also why I'm against a remake, Advent Children did not, and remakes would not capture that chibi silliness, it seems to be all about cool fights and brooding characters now.) The characters are likeable, even though you might miss recruiting a few if you're not careful or know how to get them (I never got Yuffie, for example). I was (pleasantly) surprised there was more to characters than what the fandom had presented to me - Cloud isn't a brooding emo, Vincent isn't exactly all corpses and coffins, Tiffa is awesome, and there is a bunch of those that don't get mentioned much these days. There are a lot of 'secret'/hard to find or win events that you may need a guide for.

All in all, it's a solid game; no wonder it made such a huge impact on the gaming as a whole. I liked FF8 even more, but that one seems to be highly subjective.
 
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secondchildren

Forum veteran
#3,469
Mar 19, 2013
Just finished ME2 (a few seconds ago): omg that was epic! multiorgasmicly epic actually LOL

Aaaaaaanyway...
in ME1 the story was still good, but I like all the elements and twists they put in this sequel. I think all the best part of it came when creating this game. And the giant Terminator-reaper was awesome. I followed the legal path till the end of the game, Illusive Man's choice included. Just curious: what did you choose? I mean about the reaper and Cerberus?

Also
What's the digital image we see in the Collector's room, just a moment before the Collector's base explodes? That never finished Prothean Reaper EDI was talking about? Or I saw something else?

And...Garrus romance is priceless
 
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wichat

Mentor
#3,470
Mar 19, 2013
First time the legal path... just for try.

The second on my usual ME1 female-angry-Shepard-character about all stupids burocrates and superiors /> Only be nice with my friends.
 
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cmdr_silverbolt

Senior user
#3,471
Mar 19, 2013
Dona said:
and there is a bunch of those that don't get mentioned much these days.
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Oh, you just reminded me of
Cid
and this character's story. It was interesting to change opinions about this character as you find out more.
 
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Garrison72

Mentor
#3,472
Mar 20, 2013
secondchildren said:
Just finished ME2 (a few seconds ago): omg that was epic! multiorgasmicly epic actually LOL

Aaaaaaanyway...
in ME1 the story was still good, but I like all the elements and twists they put in this sequel. I think all the best part of it came when creating this game. And the giant Terminator-reaper was awesome. I followed the legal path till the end of the game, Illusive Man's choice included. Just curious: what did you choose? I mean about the reaper and Cerberus?

Also
What's the digital image we see in the Collector's room, just a moment before the Collector's base explodes? That never finished Prothean Reaper EDI was talking about? Or I saw something else?

And...Garrus romance is priceless
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Dona.794

Forum veteran
#3,473
Mar 20, 2013
Eidos Montreal is working with OcRemix on 8 remix tracks of the original Deus Ex OST. They will be released for free, the first one being The Search for Ambrosia (originally NYC Streets). MP3 direct link.

This is going to be awesomeeeee ;_;
 
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volsung

Forum veteran
#3,474
Mar 20, 2013
I've been playing NWN2, the official campaign. I figured since I got it from GOG (with lots of content) I'd play the campaign first and then Mask of the Betrayer. Always play the bad one first, that way you get to enjoy both.

If you forget the fact that the story is virtually nonexistant, NWN2 isn't half bad. The combat is OK, very similar to the first (which I played in 2002) except party based and RTwP, which I like. Writing is terrible, and so are the NPC's I've met so far. One cliche after the other. It is pretty cool going back to a D&D cRPG after so long. Well I did replay BGII recently, so I should say a 3E D&D cRPG. I like the top-down view and the "tactical" camera view. Graphics are blocky but what can you expect from a 7 year old game?

One thing that blows my mind is why on Earth I'm getting GPU temperatures similar to the ones I get with The Witcher 2? Obviously, the difference in actual GPU load is abysmal. Perhaps NWN2 implements terrible AA and shadows and high-res textures.

Hope I'll finish the main campaign soon and then move on to MotB.
 
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Glaroug.531

Forum veteran
#3,475
Mar 20, 2013
Just finished ME2 (a few seconds ago): omg that was epic!multiorgasmicly epic actually LOL
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That's good to hear. I was enjoying the game ("discovering" Archangel made me squeal like a little girl), until I realized the real threat to the galaxy was not the invasion of the Reapers, but the sudden takeover of chest-high walls
. Maybe I'll pick it back up someday. My mother-hen Sheppard is second only to Geralt.
 
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Cs__sz__r

Rookie
#3,476
Mar 20, 2013
For any hardcore strategy gamers here, there will be a new Civilization 5 expansion this summer. It'll expand on diplomacy and the end game. Also nine new civs including the Polish.
 
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secondchildren

Forum veteran
#3,477
Mar 20, 2013
slimgrin said:
You've just played ME2 for the first time? o_O. Great game.
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Yes, bought months ago and never had the time to play and finish it at once. I stopped many times, only yesterday found a peaceful moment to go into the survival mission.
Yes, it's great. Bioware sci fi section apparently works better than the fantasy one. I mean, so far.

slimgrin said:
If you forget the fact that the story is virtually nonexistant, NWN2 isn't half bad.
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Possibly because I came after BG series and NWN1 series, I found it boring, messy and... yes non-existant is correct.

Writing is terrible, and so are the NPC's I've met so far. One cliche after the other.
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Definitely too much. I follow the legal path but at one point I felt I didn't give a damn to the NPCs, not even one of them I liked. I barely remind Casavir and his banal dull morale. Made look Alistair and Anomen genius in comparison.

Hope I'll finish the main campaign soon and then move on to MotB.
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This time you won't be disappointed. MoTB is MUCH better than the OC.

slimgrin said:
That's good to hear. I was enjoying the game ("discovering" Archangel made me squeal like a little girl), until I realized the real threat to the galaxy was not the invasion of the Reapers, but the sudden takeover of chest-high walls
Maybe I'll pick it back up someday.My mother-hen Sheppard is second only to Geralt.
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If you one day finish it, you'll find out that there's a bigger plan behind. And the Reapers are always on the edge of invasion LOL

Also if you like ME series, I suggest you to read this fan comic here http://epantiras.deviantart.com/art/Mess-Perfect-2-cover-216376166
It'll make you laugh to tears.

Now, I'm pondering the idea of purchasing ME3, since it's under discount.
 
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Georgie_Porgie

Senior user
#3,478
Mar 20, 2013
Volsung said:
One thing that blows my mind is why on Earth I'm getting GPU temperatures similar to the ones I get with The Witcher 2? Obviously, the difference in actual GPU load is abysmal. Perhaps NWN2 implements terrible AA and shadows and high-res textures.
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Funny thing but I had the same problem and unlike you my GPU died with lots of smoke. I believe it a game problem, cause never before I had such high temperatures with graphics that are nothing special

Even now my 2 gtx465 reach the temperatures of 107°C. The hottest game ever
 
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Blothulfur

Mentor
#3,479
Mar 20, 2013
It's the shadows, they're enormously overcomplicated, turn 'em off.
 
fchopin

fchopin

Forum veteran
#3,480
Mar 20, 2013
Csszr said:
For any hardcore strategy gamers here, there will be a new Civilization 5 expansion this summer. It'll expand on diplomacy and the end game. Also nine new civs including the Polish.
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Is there a link for the expansion?

Edit: ok found it. http://www.civilization5.com/bravenewworld/
 
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