Argh, mateys... Long post ahead, yarr!
Sorry, maybe I should make it clear that I'm not saying he could have changed that. I'm saying that Roche seems not to be disturbed by this fact. It feels strange to me that he can justify that to himself being a part of accepting a deal that has those consequences.
Eh, I'm not so sure on that bit. The ending with the Temerian vassal state is an ending in which Nilfgaard is handed victory. The game makes it very clear to us, but doesn't explain why Roche doesn't understand, that Emhyr is barely holding on to power at home. Even the general and ambassador allude and/or state out right for this to be the case... in the very same hall in which Emhyr's personal guards are, well, guarding shite!
Temeria may have been beaten, but that doesn't mean it's in Roche's character to play willing participant in a total Nilfgaard domination of the North. The game never explains why he doesn't have this very info that any number of characters, including Geralt, could have told him.
Yup. Again, read my above statement. Roche is a patriot of the highest order. I think it's unlikely, in the game universe, that he would lay down his arms just because the country doesn't exist as a formal sovereign state. I think that's part of the reason why him joining the Redanians [W2] was NEVER an option for this story line.
One last bit about the scurrying around. I know we didn't get to see much of it... but it sure seems that Roche's guerrillas [and maybe others? it's not said] are causing more problems than we are shown.
Otherwise, why would Emhyr see it as important to deal with them and not just crush them? It's not just about having a vassal state, as he is doing that already, and could strengthen it further with loyal troops garrisoned there.
Remember, Nilfgaard doesn't always win. Unless I missed something... seriously, there's a lot of threads... it's explicitly described that the guerrillas' standing down paves the way for Nilfgaard to conquer the North. With the Guerrillas, Redanians, and lack of support at home, Emhyr was actually fighting a losing battle. I think it's totally out of character for Roche [remember his job and skills?] to not have any info and just jump on the first offer to have a flag that says Temeria.
He knows that's Temeria in name only... I don't think that's the kind of man Roche is, but I'm glad to discuss it more if you disagree. Cheers!
EDIT: Reminder, I'm talking about him and the deal with Nilfgaard. We could discuss what he might think about Redania taking over too. But in the game, he wasn't offered a choice to work with them.
Why in the world do so many people seem to assume that the fate of Lyria, Rivia, and Aedirn hinged on Roche's tenacity?
Sorry, maybe I should make it clear that I'm not saying he could have changed that. I'm saying that Roche seems not to be disturbed by this fact. It feels strange to me that he can justify that to himself being a part of accepting a deal that has those consequences.
Temeria fought against Nilfgaard - Roche mentions a battle that lasted for three days - and they lost. Whatever the kingdom could scrounge up after Foltest's death was crushed and the country was defeated, utterly and completely. Roche was reduced to becoming a guerilla that scurried around in the hills, knowing that his country was never going to be independent again.
Eh, I'm not so sure on that bit. The ending with the Temerian vassal state is an ending in which Nilfgaard is handed victory. The game makes it very clear to us, but doesn't explain why Roche doesn't understand, that Emhyr is barely holding on to power at home. Even the general and ambassador allude and/or state out right for this to be the case... in the very same hall in which Emhyr's personal guards are, well, guarding shite!
Temeria may have been beaten, but that doesn't mean it's in Roche's character to play willing participant in a total Nilfgaard domination of the North. The game never explains why he doesn't have this very info that any number of characters, including Geralt, could have told him.
Again, let me emphasize that Temeria has been DEFEATED before the game even starts. They will never again be an independent kingdom.
Yup. Again, read my above statement. Roche is a patriot of the highest order. I think it's unlikely, in the game universe, that he would lay down his arms just because the country doesn't exist as a formal sovereign state. I think that's part of the reason why him joining the Redanians [W2] was NEVER an option for this story line.
One last bit about the scurrying around. I know we didn't get to see much of it... but it sure seems that Roche's guerrillas [and maybe others? it's not said] are causing more problems than we are shown.
Otherwise, why would Emhyr see it as important to deal with them and not just crush them? It's not just about having a vassal state, as he is doing that already, and could strengthen it further with loyal troops garrisoned there.
Remember, Nilfgaard doesn't always win. Unless I missed something... seriously, there's a lot of threads... it's explicitly described that the guerrillas' standing down paves the way for Nilfgaard to conquer the North. With the Guerrillas, Redanians, and lack of support at home, Emhyr was actually fighting a losing battle. I think it's totally out of character for Roche [remember his job and skills?] to not have any info and just jump on the first offer to have a flag that says Temeria.
He knows that's Temeria in name only... I don't think that's the kind of man Roche is, but I'm glad to discuss it more if you disagree. Cheers!
EDIT: Reminder, I'm talking about him and the deal with Nilfgaard. We could discuss what he might think about Redania taking over too. But in the game, he wasn't offered a choice to work with them.
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