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GosuPL

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#1,501
Jul 29, 2014
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/answers/id-2035214/windforce-780-performance-issues.html

Good example...

"ShadowofGhosts said:
cyborgcity said:
The AMD 8350 is bottlenecking your system. What else to you want me to say? Your cpu is not strong enough to power a 780 ti.


It is unlikely for a CPU which is equivalent and/or stronger to a Haswell i5 to Bottleneck a 780 Ti. The 8350 is only 15-20% slower than the 4770, which isn't a huge jump.


Ahh yes it is. That 20% can make all the difference. He's running the most powerful card on the market with an AMD cpu and wondering why he isn't getting full performance? I think you'd be surprised what a quality CPU can do with a card."

Min fps is VERY important, and depending of CPU power.
 
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GuyNwah

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#1,502
Jul 29, 2014
The above is a misleading reading of the diverse opinions offered in that Tom's Hardware thread. Read the entire thread before making any kind of judgment.

More to the point is this:

"has nothing to do with the 8350 which is a very power cpu. valley benchmark is highly gpu depended. many test have been done with stock intel "k" processors and then 4.5ghz overclocks and the score changes about 2-3%"

Also, the OP was running single-channel memory (even though he stated elsewhere that he had two sticks installed):

"It seems like you only have one stick of ram, that motherboard supports dual channel memory.
Your ram performance would be better if you had two identical ram modules. " A dual channel kit"
If you buy the exact same ram module you can activate dual channel, just make sure the ram is on the compatibility list or confirm with asus that it will be stable on your mother board before buy another 8 gb module."

And finally, the OP's system was unstable, having among other faults a known substandard power supply. You cannot draw any conclusion based on the performance of an unstable system.

"Well this is odd. I just ran PCMark Vantage, and after the test was over, and was sitting idle for a couple minutes, my PC just rebooted out of nowhere."

I repeat. Talk is cheap. Nobody here knows anything or has any experience relative to the performance of The Witcher 3 on any platform.

READERS ARE CAUTIONED TO REJECT ANY RECOMMENDATION TO SPEND LARGE SUMS ON HARDWARE BEFORE GAME REQUIREMENTS ARE RELEASED.
 
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onlythefinest313

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#1,503
Jul 29, 2014
Greetings again!

Seems I missed a bit of action here. I would just like to interject something, if I may. I am currently running a 9590 fx, along with a evga 780ti. Let me tell you, there is absolutely no bottleneck.

Gaming/ Graphics wise I can compete with the i7-4960x with 5-10% difference (my first choice originally was a i7-4960x.)

http://www.extremetech.com/computing/170023-amd-vs-intel-the-ultimate-gaming-showdown-5ghz-fx-9590-vs-i7-4960x

Price was irrelevant to me, however being smart and cost effective can go a long way...so I chose to follow the advice of a very tech inclined friend who was beyond the "hype" produced by either company. He said, quite simply: "what do you want to do with this rig?" I said gaming. "Okay. Let me show you...."

In his basement sat 11 or 12 desktops and laptops in various stages of build. The one we went to was almost complete, I believe. Custom cooling reservoir etc. Beautiful.

He fires it up and proceeds to show me how he plays crysis 2 1080p maxed out..we fire up assassins creed brotherhood...we fire up arma 2, witcher 2..all on ultra. The system was an 8350 overclocked to 5ghz with cf 7970's. Now, up to this point I was purely an intel man. Still am in many ways. Much respect to hyperthreading and performance across 2-4 cores. My Alienware laptop has an I7 3610qm, it's amazing in conjunction with the 7970m. Truthfully, Intel leads in overall performance. No doubt. HT and cross core scaling do wonders for Photoshop and other tasks.

But, and I mean a really big but, in and for gaming, the difference is truly negligible. 5-10% gains do not justify an additional $700 that I would have spent on that 4960x for gaming. To me, synthetic benchmarks mean nothing. I like real performance to cost.

Anyhow, just my 2 cents worth. I'm not a hardcore tech guy, I just love PC gaming like all of you.

Take care!
 
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GW69

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#1,504
Aug 2, 2014
Agreeing with what Guy said, but I'd go a step further. He recommended waiting until the specs are released... forget that, wait until the game is almost out :)

Seriously, if you're looking to upgrade your hardware specifically for this game then just wait. And not just because the specs aren't released but also because whatever you want/can afford right now will be cheaper in a few months.

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Now, on the whole AMD vs Intel vs Consoles issue, let me summarize this succinctly without hype for anyone confused. (Note that I am talking about mainstream chips - the ones people actually buy, not anything in the $1000 price range)

  • With this generation of hardware the Intel i chips are faster on a per core same GHz basis. Lower clocked i3s can outrun an fx 9590 on most single threaded applications. That is Intel's big advantage.
  • AMD's major advantage is number of cores. If a program can utilize multiple cores effectively the higher core count on the typical AMD processors comes into play.


Why do people regularly recommend Intel's chips? Well frankly most PC games do not effectively utilize multiple cores. Oh sure, they utilize two cores, but effectively utilizing even 4 (much less 6 or 8) you just don't see it that much. It's a harder problem to solve than most people realize...

Hence, with games not utilizing the 5/6/7/8th cores and Intel's chips being faster on a per core basis, that is why Intel chips have tended to dominate the gaming benchmarks despite the fact that AMD looks great on synthetics or other uses that fully utilize all cores (like video encoding).

If games start utilizing those extra cores that will greatly close the current gap between Intel/AMD. Will the new offerings from Sony/MS help that? I hope so, but I think we might be a little wishful. Remember that the CPU only matters if the GPU has enough horsepower that it is not the bottleneck... most friends that I have helped out with their hardware, I'd say that 95% had a *GPU* bottleneck, not a CPU one. As for the consoles, I don't know how much pressure they will really have to efficiently multicore since they have to power much less demanding GPUs. They just came out and are struggling to meet the demands of 1080p/60 fps. Lets be honest they're failing at it... why? GPU bottlenecks.

tldr1: Good grief, wait to buy new hardware for this game until you can almost play it, lol

tldr2: Don't buy new CPUs for a game with unknown multicore efficiency, especially when most people would be better off spending the $$$ on a new GPU.

Detroit_steel said:
Greetings again!

Gaming/ Graphics wise I can compete with the i7-4960x with 5-10% difference (my first choice originally was a i7-4960x.)

http://www.extremetech.com/computing/170023-amd-vs-intel-the-ultimate-gaming-showdown-5ghz-fx-9590-vs-i7-4960x

Price was irrelevant to me, however being smart and cost effective can go a long way...so I chose to follow the advice of a very tech inclined friend who was beyond the "hype" produced by either company. He said, quite simply: "what do you want to do with this rig?" I said gaming. "Okay. Let me show you...."
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While I won't disagree that the 9590 is good chip and sufficient to power a 780, I don't think this is a fair comparison. I think a more reasonable comparison would be an i7-4770. When the 9590 came out they tried to sell it for 800-900 bucks, hence the 4960x comparison, but now its priced within a few bucks of the 4770. The 4770 is within a percent or two of the 4960x for *gaming*. Same issue as above, games just don't use 6 cores, hence *for gaming* the 4960x just isnt a good recommendation for cost effectiveness. I starred for gaming because much like the 9590 the gap between the 4770 and 4960x is only going to be seen with tests that use all the cores. Games just don't yet.

i7-4770 vs the Fx-9590? For gaming its frankly a draw IMHO. Its certainly close enough that NOBODY should be considering a platform switch. Good grief. Save that money for a new GPU and an SSD - if you don't have an SSD go get one. :)
 
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eskiMoe

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#1,505
Aug 2, 2014
GW69 said:
i7-4770 vs the Fx-9590? For gaming its frankly a draw IMHO. Its certainly close enough that NOBODY should be considering a platform switch. Good grief. Save that money for a new GPU and an SSD - if you don't have an SSD go get one. :)
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I'm actually considering buying a Crucial MX100 256GB SSD for games. Already have a 64GB SSD as a boot drive.
 
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mavowar

Senior user
#1,506
Aug 2, 2014
eskimoe said:
I'm actually considering buying a Crucial MX100 256GB SSD for games. Already have a 64GB SSD as a boot drive.
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Do it!!!! I have 3 ssd I use 2 for big games....like witcher3 it will help with the large open world!!! I have a crucial m500 256 gig(boot) and Samsung830 128 gig both for games and I also have 128gig agilty4 by ocz (do not trust it for games lol) I do use it for music/movie etc.....I then have a wd black 2 gig for back up of all data I also just bought a 1 tb raptor drive for my steam account/games....still need one more and another back up drive as I had more games than I thought, filled up a 1tb in no time at all. I recommend the raptor for large gaming drives and they now come in 1tb 10000rpm models!!! Sweet. They are a good compromise for fast/large drives imho
 
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eskiMoe

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#1,507
Aug 2, 2014
War Machine said:
Do it!!!! I have 3 ssd I use 2 for big games....like witcher3 it will help with the large open world!!! I have a crucial m500 256 gig(boot) and Samsung830 128 gig both for games and I also have 128gig agilty4 by ocz (do not trust it for games lol) I do use it for music/movie etc.....I then have a wd black 2 gig for back up of all data I also just bought a 1 tb raptor drive for my steam account/games....still need one more and another back up drive as I had more games than I thought, filled up a 1tb in no time at all. I recommend the raptor for large gaming drives and they now come in 1tb 10000rpm models!!! Sweet. They are a good compromise for fast/large drives imho
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Just ordered one two seconds ago :p

But yeah, open world games in particular seem to benefit from an SSD. Skyrim became smooth as butter when I tried it on my SSD vs Samsung Spinpoint F1 1TB HDD. Will probably use the Spinpoint for most games and have a selected few installed on the SSD.

And I have a 4TB WD Green for storage :)
 
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Gwyn_of_cinder

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#1,508
Aug 2, 2014
All these people with their super special awesome bohunk beefcake stud muffin 780ti cards.....and I'm just sitting here..... pleased with my 760.
 
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GW69

Rookie
#1,509
Aug 2, 2014
Gwyn_of_cinder said:
All these people with their super special awesome bohunk beefcake stud muffin 780ti cards.....and I'm just sitting here..... pleased with my 760.
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Nothing wrong with a 760 :) That card's got plenty under the hood, its already substantial more powerful than the consoles and unless you're willing to drop some big bucks you won't see much of a performance increase with what's available right now.

No reason to drop almost $700 on a 780ti unless money is no object - which hey, for some fortunate people its not - but I'm a firm believer with paying 60% of the price for 95% of the power, which often happens with GPUs. You pay a hefty premium for those last few percents.

Now look some people out there are playing on triple monitor 5760x1080 setups... no hate from me, god bless them for driving the cutting edge further, but I can't justify the cost of that to my wife, lol.

My prior post is directed at the mainstream-AAA-playing-PC gamer, the guys with triple monitors and titan Z's don't need my advice :)

For the rest of us, my advice would be to see what happens with AMD 3xx and Nvidia 8xx. How many stream procs/shaders will they have? Will they actually be made at 20nm? I think the lack of really concrete information on the next generations from the big 2 is causing some bloat in the pricing of current GPUs.
 
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eskiMoe

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#1,510
Aug 2, 2014
http://videocardz.com/51117/exclusive-nvidia-geforce-gtx-880-released-september

According to our sources, NVIDIA will officially announce GeForce GTX 880 somewhere mid-September. NVIDIA is planning a big event for all major press members from around the world. Prepare for boring Maxwell architecture presentation, live streaming, new hardware and smiling Jen-Hsun explaining why you should buy GSYNC monitor and SHIELD tablet.

Of course this live event will only be a paper launch. Cards are expected to hit stores shortly after (late September).

We also got a word about the specs. It is yet unknown how many CUDA cores will 880 have (thus we are not sharing any numbers this time), but we were told that 256b interface is a fact. GeForce GTX 880 will most likely be released with 4GB GDDR5 memory on board. However, judging for the leaked pictures, we should also expect 8GB models.

GeForce GTX 880 might not be the fastest card out there, but it will not hurt your wallet, $400 – $450 is the expected MSRP. Of course it is yet too soon to confirm the price, but it is unlikely that GTX 880 will cost $500.

From manufacturers perspective, GeForce GTX 880 is using very similar board design to GTX 770. GeForce GTX 880 is of course 780 successor, but it has more similarities to GTX 770 than GTX 780.
The difference between GTX 880 and GTX 770 boards is cosmetic. Thus, GM204 is basically a GK104 replacement. However, just because it’s a mid-range GPU replacement, It does not mean it will be slower than some GK110 cards. We do not know how fast GTX 880 is going to be, but it’s safe to assume it will sit above 780 and maybe even 780 Ti.
 
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mavowar

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#1,511
Aug 3, 2014
eskimoe said:
http://videocardz.com/51117/exclusive-nvidia-geforce-gtx-880-released-september

According to our sources, NVIDIA will officially announce GeForce GTX 880 somewhere mid-September. NVIDIA is planning a big event for all major press members from around the world. Prepare for boring Maxwell architecture presentation, live streaming, new hardware and smiling Jen-Hsun explaining why you should buy GSYNC monitor and SHIELD tablet.

Of course this live event will only be a paper launch. Cards are expected to hit stores shortly after (late September).

We also got a word about the specs. It is yet unknown how many CUDA cores will 880 have (thus we are not sharing any numbers this time), but we were told that 256b interface is a fact. GeForce GTX 880 will most likely be released with 4GB GDDR5 memory on board. However, judging for the leaked pictures, we should also expect 8GB models.

GeForce GTX 880 might not be the fastest card out there, but it will not hurt your wallet, $400 – $450 is the expected MSRP. Of course it is yet too soon to confirm the price, but it is unlikely that GTX 880 will cost $500.

From manufacturers perspective, GeForce GTX 880 is using very similar board design to GTX 770. GeForce GTX 880 is of course 780 successor, but it has more similarities to GTX 770 than GTX 780.
The difference between GTX 880 and GTX 770 boards is cosmetic. Thus, GM204 is basically a GK104 replacement. However, just because it’s a mid-range GPU replacement, It does not mean it will be slower than some GK110 cards. We do not know how fast GTX 880 is going to be, but it’s safe to assume it will sit above 780 and maybe even 780 Ti.
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I can not wait!!!

been itching to upgrade. Will get one for sure. Prolly a second for sli to drive my new monitor the ROG Swift w/g-sync

Witcher 3 better be worth all this money I am spending!!!!

Pertaining to your post though.....there are rumblings of something big coming, a surprise, Nvidia is pulling out all the stops for this announcement.
http://wccftech.com/nvidia-gtx-geforce-grand-finale-gamescom-2014/

I hope these 880 have the fabled Denver Arm cores......if not Imma be a lil upset.......but I will get over it ;-)
 
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mavowar

Senior user
#1,512
Aug 3, 2014
Gwyn_of_cinder said:
All these people with their super special awesome bohunk beefcake stud muffin 780ti cards.....and I'm just sitting here..... pleased with my 760.
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That is a great 1080p card buddy. I have 660ti in sli very similar cards. Both were/are great bang for the buck!!!!
 
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WildFinn96

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#1,513
Aug 3, 2014
I just ordered my first PC.

Main specs are these:
CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231v3 @ 3,4 GHz
GPU: Asus AMD R9 290x 4GB DCUII OC @ 1050 MHz
Motherboard: Asus H97 Plus
RAM: Kingston 8GB HyperX Fury DDR3 @ 1600 MHz
SSD: Crucial 256 GB MX100

I hope that I can play this on high settings @ 1920x1080/60 FPS
What do you say?

Edit: Please, don't say stuff like " You should have bought this instead of that". :D
Edit 2: I know that the official requirements have not been published yet, but take a guess
 
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eskiMoe

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Aug 3, 2014
WildFinn said:
Edit: Please, don't say stuff like " You should have bought this instead of that". :D
Edit 2: I know that the official requirements have not been published yet, but take a guess
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Nice rig. But I would've gotten an Nvidia card instead since TW3 is an Nvidia Gameworks title:



Also no one can say for sure how well the game is going to run on that system.
 
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jnewhouse

Rookie
#1,515
Aug 3, 2014
My rig for the Witcher 3

CPU: Intel Core 4770K@3.50GHz
GPU: GeForce GTX 780Ti
Motherboard: ASUS MAXIMUS VI FORMULA
RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws Z series 16GB

I hope I'll be able to run this game on high settings with this specs.
 
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WildFinn96

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Aug 3, 2014
eskimoe said:
Nice rig. But I would've gotten an Nvidia card instead since TW3 is an Nvidia Gameworks title:

Also no one can say for sure how well the game is going to run on that system.
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I'm pretty confident that CDPR will optimize the game to run well on AMD cards also. Sure, Nvidia gets some more advanced physics (?) but I'm not too concerned about not being able to take full potential on those. I'm going to enjoy the game nonetheless. :D
 
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GosuPL

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Aug 4, 2014
jnewhouse said:
My rig for the Witcher 3

CPU: Intel Core 4770K@3.50GHz
GPU: GeForce GTX 780Ti
Motherboard: ASUS MAXIMUS VI FORMULA
RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws Z series 16GB

I hope I'll be able to run this game on high settings with this specs.
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You mean, ultra not high, right ?:)
 
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didymos1120

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Aug 4, 2014
So, is this now basically just a thread for people to go "Hey, check out MY rig"?
 
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WildFinn96

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#1,519
Aug 4, 2014
didymos1120 said:
So, is this now basically just a thread for people to go "Hey, check out MY rig"?
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So it seems :D

Don't know how old this information is but apparently it's up to Nvidia to let AMD users use the fur/hair etc. physics.
http://tech4gamers.com/witcher-3-nvidia-and-amd-both-cards-can-enjoy-the-new-effects/
 
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TheCrisis

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Aug 5, 2014
Just a short question:
how many months before the game's release will the system requirements be known?
I mean, of course specially for TW3, but also in general :)
 
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