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Your 6870 can handle TW2 ultra settings and thats not bad at all. Plus with the new RedEngine 3 optimizations perhaps you would be able to enjoy more eyecandy in TW3, not ultra maybe, but some high features
. But most important i expect some heavy CPU usage, if u have a good CPU your rig is not a bad start to go.I'm not expecting heavy CPU usage, probably going forward CPU is meant to be more and more a mere support for the heavy work of the GPU. Of course, it has to be adequate and not a poor support -> bottleneckYour 6870 can handle TW2 ultra settings and thats not bad at all. Plus with the new RedEngine 3 optimizations perhaps you would be able to enjoy more eyecandy in TW3, not ultra maybe, but some high features
Not trying to be off topic here but Nvidia recently announced TW3 features which includes HBAO+, Hairworks, PhysX, Destruction and Clothing. It is also said that Destruction and Clothing will be supported on consoles which have AMD GPUs, now the question is does this support for Destruction and Clothing on consoles will have some sort of capping ? if it's capped then it will be capped on PC AMD cards too.
I know high level PhysX won't work on AMD GPUs but if Destruction and Clothing will have some capped version for AMD then I'll be deeply disappointed. I recently upgraded my system to Sapphire R9 290 Tri-X OC, i5 4690k along with MSI Z97 G45 motherboard and 8 GB ram, I also have plans to grab an SSD near the release of game but if all this can't get us AMD users full eye candy just because some proprietary features won't work or severely capped then it's worth less and wasted money. I am in no position to get a new Nvidia GPU so this worries me.
If CDPR is not in position to give us some discrete system requirements then they should at least clear a simple question that does the experience will be same on AMD and Nvidia ? or do we specifically need an Nvidia GPU to get the best experience. I do believe in CDPR's skill and commitment but it is also a fact that games utilizing Nvidia Gameworks features perform badly on AMD hardware, examples are Assassins Creed 4 and Watch Dogs so does this mean we AMD users are going to be hit by performance issues as well ?
I know high level PhysX won't work on AMD GPUs but if Destruction and Clothing will have some capped version for AMD then I'll be deeply disappointed. I recently upgraded my system to Sapphire R9 290 Tri-X OC, i5 4690k along with MSI Z97 G45 motherboard and 8 GB ram, I also have plans to grab an SSD near the release of game but if all this can't get us AMD users full eye candy just because some proprietary features won't work or severely capped then it's worth less and wasted money. I am in no position to get a new Nvidia GPU so this worries me.
If CDPR is not in position to give us some discrete system requirements then they should at least clear a simple question that does the experience will be same on AMD and Nvidia ? or do we specifically need an Nvidia GPU to get the best experience. I do believe in CDPR's skill and commitment but it is also a fact that games utilizing Nvidia Gameworks features perform badly on AMD hardware, examples are Assassins Creed 4 and Watch Dogs so does this mean we AMD users are going to be hit by performance issues as well ?
What do u think guys about the 64 rop's of the GTX970 it would be a kickass compared to the 48 rop's of the GTX780/Ti's? it would be more convenient to setup a 970 or a 780Ti for the witcher 3?
It's really hard to know right now since the 900 series comes with a newly introduced architecture and whether it is optimized for this specific game is yet to be seen. Specs on paper don't really translate well on real world performance. But on gaming as a whole, it is always recommended to go for the latest family of GPU since they have longer life meaning longer driver and game support.
It will certainly be very optimized for Maxwell and other Nvidia cards because all games that are being developed with Gameworks/The way it's meant to be played platforms/programs generally favor Nvidia for obvious reasons. The real thing is how well it will be optimized for non-Nvidia platforms and what features will be available to them. The announcement of GTX 970/980 doesn't bother me much since the performance difference is not that much from current high end cards but optimization of games (particularly TW3) is the thing of concern and here is the reason
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2014/05/26/why-watch-dogs-is-bad-news-for-amd-users-and-potentially-the-entire-pc-gaming-ecosystem/
Now my only hope is with CDPR that they treat all platforms equally and don't follow the practices of Ubisoft.
Since nobody replied with any information or opinion regarding my previous post above, I dig around the forum to find some info and this gives me some hope (PhysX Clothing/Destruction don't need Nvidia hardware to run) though the performance cost remains to be seen on AMD hardware.
http://forums.cdprojektred.com/threads/30456-Interviews-and-Articles-Part-2/page120
I'm trying to decide whether I'll need to make any serious upgrades to my machine before I can enjoy W3 - I could always wait until the game comes out and make a decision then. Having said that, what are your thoughts given the specs below?
i7 2600K 3.4 GHz | Asus Maximus IV Extreme Rev 3.0 | G.SKILL RipjawsX 16 GB 1866 MHz
Radeon HD 6990 4 GB | SyncMaster 2343 | Intel SSD 520 240 GB | WD 2 TB SATA 7200 rpm | HGST 4 TB SATA 5400 rpm
Corsair AX 1200W Gold | Antec Twelve Hundred Gamer
Curious whether upgrading to GTX 980 and / or i7-5820K would make a big difference. Of course, upgrading to this CPU would mean a new board and DDR4 RAM.
i7 2600K 3.4 GHz | Asus Maximus IV Extreme Rev 3.0 | G.SKILL RipjawsX 16 GB 1866 MHz
Radeon HD 6990 4 GB | SyncMaster 2343 | Intel SSD 520 240 GB | WD 2 TB SATA 7200 rpm | HGST 4 TB SATA 5400 rpm
Corsair AX 1200W Gold | Antec Twelve Hundred Gamer
Curious whether upgrading to GTX 980 and / or i7-5820K would make a big difference. Of course, upgrading to this CPU would mean a new board and DDR4 RAM.
Will my AMD FX-8350 bottleneck with a GTX 980? I'm planing to get the GTX 980 for TW3.
Your rig is beefy. Personally I won't upgrade anything or wait for bigger GPUs to appear (Titan 2 or R9 390). 6990 is a beast and will most probably handle the game very well. Still CDPR need to optimize Nvidia specific features for AMD users like HBAO+
The second generation i5 and i7 processors are still great for gaming and they are very overclocking friendly. You may want to OC that CPU to 4.0 or 4.2 Ghz for additional performance instead of getting i7-5820k.
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I don't think so, AMD FX-8350 is roughly equal to an i5-4670k and both of these are still good for gaming and 8350 will have advantage of 8 core as well if the game support good multi threading.
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in high quality 2600k @4.5 ghz is almost no differen than 3770k or 4770k
Intel Core i7-4770K 4.5G 102.70 %
Intel Core i7-3770K 4.5G 102.74 %
Intel Core i7-2600K 4.5G 101.68 %
http://www.ocaholic.ch/modules/smartsection/item.php?page=13&itemid=1164
so instead of upgrading get a good cpu cooler and OC it.
Someone told me that a 7990 is like having a Crossfire because the 7990 is dual GPU. Dose that mean it can give problems like when you try to crossfire or SLI a video card? Or that's not the case and it will work just fine.
@ChrisStayler
Not getting you here, do you mean that dual GPU graphic cards can be used in SLI or Crossfire ? or whether a dual GPU card will bring problems like micro-stuttering ?
If you mean the first then yes dual GPU graphic cards can be used in crossfire/SLI like two 7990 together.
If you mean the later then it depends on the game and drivers, proper PC games with right drivers always scale well with SLI/Crossfire.
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Btw dual GPU graphic cards like 7990 also operate in crossfire (SLI for Nvidia cards) so if a game does not scale well with SLI or crossfire then it can have problems on such graphic cards like lower fps or micro-stuttering.
Not getting you here, do you mean that dual GPU graphic cards can be used in SLI or Crossfire ? or whether a dual GPU card will bring problems like micro-stuttering ?
If you mean the first then yes dual GPU graphic cards can be used in crossfire/SLI like two 7990 together.
If you mean the later then it depends on the game and drivers, proper PC games with right drivers always scale well with SLI/Crossfire.
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Btw dual GPU graphic cards like 7990 also operate in crossfire (SLI for Nvidia cards) so if a game does not scale well with SLI or crossfire then it can have problems on such graphic cards like lower fps or micro-stuttering.
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Yeah i know the 7990 can crossfire. My question is will it give problems like micro-stuttering. Yes i know they are drivers that fix these problems but a lot of games don't come out with those drivers at launch. Or is that not the case with the 7990 and is works like any other card that you are not using Crossfire-SLI?
@ChrisStayler
Ah okay, the micro stuttering problem is going away slowly but steadily as the drivers are getting more mature and SLI/Crossfire trend is increasing the game devs are adopting them seriously thus optimizing their games for them. Most of the games don't even need a special driver change once they are released. Considering the good rep of CDPR and more PC focused development, I doubt that their game will cause issues on SLI/Crossfire config.
Though you should know that there are some games that constantly cause problems on dual card systems, for example my friend dropped entire Assassins Creed series just because it never worked well on his crossfire setup, it lags a lot and destroy his experience, from what I remember he has two 5770 in crossfire, so such games will cause issues on dual GPU cards too, as for me I never had much issue with AC on my single AMD card config but AC games are generally taxing on AMD hardware.
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7990 in general is a very powerful card so there are less chances that it will cause frame rate latency/micro-stuttering except for games that are done badly for PC.
Ah okay, the micro stuttering problem is going away slowly but steadily as the drivers are getting more mature and SLI/Crossfire trend is increasing the game devs are adopting them seriously thus optimizing their games for them. Most of the games don't even need a special driver change once they are released. Considering the good rep of CDPR and more PC focused development, I doubt that their game will cause issues on SLI/Crossfire config.
Though you should know that there are some games that constantly cause problems on dual card systems, for example my friend dropped entire Assassins Creed series just because it never worked well on his crossfire setup, it lags a lot and destroy his experience, from what I remember he has two 5770 in crossfire, so such games will cause issues on dual GPU cards too, as for me I never had much issue with AC on my single AMD card config but AC games are generally taxing on AMD hardware.
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7990 in general is a very powerful card so there are less chances that it will cause frame rate latency/micro-stuttering except for games that are done badly for PC.
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Recent AMD drivers with frame pacing have relieved the microstutter and runt frames problems (runt frames is an extreme case of microstutter, where half the frames are not shown at all). You should be OK with 13.8 and 14-series drivers in Crossfire. 14.1 was the first good driver for the 7990.
You're right about the CPU not being nearly the problem some people think it is. The CPU's main job in games is to shovel data to the GPU, and any Sandy Bridge or later Core i5 or i7, or any AMD FX-8xxx, are as good at this as you're going to get, enough to keep any current dual SLI or dual Crossfire configuration stoked. And if you go beyond that, you need an LGA 2011 configuration; these are expensive.
You're right about the CPU not being nearly the problem some people think it is. The CPU's main job in games is to shovel data to the GPU, and any Sandy Bridge or later Core i5 or i7, or any AMD FX-8xxx, are as good at this as you're going to get, enough to keep any current dual SLI or dual Crossfire configuration stoked. And if you go beyond that, you need an LGA 2011 configuration; these are expensive.
Btw anyone know if Hairworks is going to make it to consoles ? since TressFX 2.0 came to consoles with Tomb Raider Definitive Edition.
Ahh yes thanks, I saw that slide earlier but must have forgotten the Hairworks thing. I hope that "planned" stage see implementation before TW3 is out as that will indicate good hairworks performance on PC AMD GPUs too.
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