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Question on new rig.

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edcar007

Rookie
#1
Jan 19, 2012
Question on new rig.

Hi everyone!
I will be buying a new rig and since I am aware of the very demanding specs this games requires I wonder if I can play on ultra and at 40-60 fps.This is the following rig:

Gainward gtx 560 ti Golden Sample

8 Gb of Ram

Intel Quad Core Q6600 2.40 Ghz

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit

Thanks!
 
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Oloroar

Rookie
#2
Jan 19, 2012
Sorry to have to say this but you wont get ultra with that rig....you might be able to sustain 30FPS or so at high settings. This game is very demanding, but its one of the best looking games around.
 
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CostinRaz

Banned
#3
Jan 19, 2012
Not necessarily. Ubersampling is the big thing here, but he would be able to run everything else on the highest settings.
 
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edcar007

Rookie
#4
Jan 19, 2012
I wont use ubersampling.You need a BEAST pc to play with that.
 
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GuyNwah

Ex-moderator
#5
Jan 19, 2012
That's about right; the game will be GPU-bound even with a 560Ti and an older quad and run satisfactorily (40FPS or so) on Ultra less Ubersampling.

The Q6600 is an old quad, but it has a massive L2 cache, so it is not so slow as 2.4 GHz suggests. And it is a longtime favorite of overclockers; you can get 3.0 GHz out of it without trying hard, and 3.6 to 4.0 GHz in a well tuned setup.
 
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Kooz123

Forum regular
#6
Jan 19, 2012
You can easily run Ultra on that GPU. Of course, it depends on the resolution you want to play at. 1920x1080 will probably chug along but anything under that will run at a good 40+ FPS. I had a 560 Ti before I upgraded and it did better than I was expecting with this game.
 
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gaminallthetime

Rookie
#7
Jan 19, 2012
i have the gtx 560 ti and every thing runs smooth at ultra on 1600x1050 .... dont know about 1080p though ive seen people get 35+ fps on 1080p with that card ....
only thing is the processor ....... does it support PCIe 2.0 x 16 bus speeds or does it support PCIe x 16 bus speeds ... coz if its the later there wil b some performance drop .....
Also dont forget about the PSU ... u need a good 550 W + psu to run this stuff properly and safely ....
 
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GuyNwah

Ex-moderator
#8
Jan 19, 2012
gaminallthetime said:
i have the gtx 560 ti and every thing runs smooth at ultra on 1600x1050 .... dont know about 1080p though ive seen people get 35+ fps on 1080p with that card ....
only thing is the processor ....... does it support PCIe 2.0 x 16 bus speeds or does it support PCIe x 16 bus speeds ... coz if its the later there wil b some performance drop .....
Also dont forget about the PSU ... u need a good 550 W + psu to run this stuff properly and safely ....
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I run on a motherboard (ASUS P5K) that has DDR2 and PCI-e 1.0, and I have no trouble with Ultra. So I do not think the PCI-e version or even the memory type is limiting for any single card.

Anyway, it's the motherboard (specifically the Northbridge), not the CPU, that controls whether you get PCI-e 2.0 or 1.0. The X38 was the first Intel chipset to support PCI-e 2.0, and the P43 was the first inexpensive Intel chipset to do so. The Q6600 is earlier than those, so it sometimes appears on motherboards that don't have PCI-e 2.0.
 
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gaminallthetime

Rookie
#9
Jan 19, 2012
GuyN said:
Anyway, it's the motherboard (specifically the Northbridge), not the CPU, that controls whether you get PCI-e 2.0 or 1.0.
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thanks for correcting me btw ....i thought that the cpu also controls that part depending on which pcie configs it supports .... guess i was wrong ...
 
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wahleye

Rookie
#10
Jan 19, 2012
I've got an Asus GTX560Ti, Q6600 2.4GHz, 4G ram, WinXP and have no difficulty running ultra settings with a full screen resolution of 1680x1050. I disable UberSampling and vertical sync, and set the texture memory size to large. The game runs smoothly, you'll love it.
 
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edcar007

Rookie
#11
Jan 20, 2012
wahleye said:
I've got an Asus GTX560Ti, Q6600 2.4GHz, 4G ram, WinXP and have no difficulty running ultra settings with a full screen resolution of 1680x1050. I disable UberSampling and vertical sync, and set the texture memory size to large. The game runs smoothly, you'll love it.
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Thanks for the info everyone.One last question though.Is texture memory size about the quality of the texture or else?
 
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GuyNwah

Ex-moderator
#12
Jan 20, 2012
edcar007 said:
Thanks for the info everyone.One last question though.Is texture memory size about the quality of the texture or else?
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I think:

Texture memory size is the size of individual textures; for example, 2048 = 2048x2048. Larger textures mean more detail, on the objects the texture covers.

Texture memory budget is the amount of VRAM the game will use to keep textures resident on the GPU; for example, 600 = 600 MB. Larger budget means more textures can be held in memory.

The combination of large texture memory size and insufficient texture memory budget causes performance degradation and/or texture fuzzing. DOF settings may also affect this (as objects out of the focal plane may safely be fuzzed when DOF is in use).
 
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edcar007

Rookie
#13
Jan 20, 2012
GuyN said:
I think:

Texture memory size is the size of individual textures; for example, 2048 = 2048x2048. Larger textures mean more detail, on the objects the texture covers.

Texture memory budget is the amount of VRAM the game will use to keep textures resident on the GPU; for example, 600 = 600 MB. Larger budget means more textures can be held in memory.

The combination of large texture memory size and insufficient texture memory budget causes performance degradation and/or texture fuzzing. DOF settings may also affect this (as objects out of the focal plane may safely be fuzzed when DOF is in use).
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Ok,thanks again!
 
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trustno1702

Senior user
#14
Jan 21, 2012
I dont know if you've built your rig yet or not. BUT I would highly recommend going with a 1155 intel socket rather than the one you listed.

Even a Dual core Sandy bridge might be a better option than the one listed.

But depending on your budget you could easily find a i3 or i5 for the same price or close to the same price.
 
coastie65

coastie65

Forum veteran
#15
Jan 22, 2012
gaminallthetime said:
i have the gtx 560 ti and every thing runs smooth at ultra on 1600x1050 .... dont know about 1080p though ive seen people get 35+ fps on 1080p with that card ....
only thing is the processor ....... does it support PCIe 2.0 x 16 bus speeds or does it support PCIe x 16 bus speeds ... coz if its the later there wil b some performance drop .....
Also dont forget about the PSU ... u need a good 550 W + psu to run this stuff properly and safely ....
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Good point. That processor in all likelyhood, will bottleneck things a bit. Best would be to find or build something with an i5 2500k, which are reasonable these days.
 
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GuyNwah

Ex-moderator
#16
Jan 23, 2012
coastie65 said:
Good point. That processor in all likelyhood, will bottleneck things a bit. Best would be to find or build something with an i5 2500k, which are reasonable these days.
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I agree. The "Kentsfield" quads (which are literally two Conroes in one package) are several years out of date. They were workhorses in their day, but even a Core i3 Sandy Bridge will do better now, and the LGA 1155 motherboards have many more modern features. If you already have a Q6600 and a motherboard, by all means don't scrap them, but for a new build, use LGA 1155.
 
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