Really CD Projekt !!....

[KnightofPhoenix]

Why would you?

I do not at all feel compelled to explain or justify my sense of humor to you.

 

[Damariel]

Speak for yourself, I love them.

+1

Some of them are hilarious.

 

[Cs__sz__r]

Fallout 4 is likely to be announced soon. Inevitably, a Game Informer exclusive feature will follow, with its batch of short interviews, one of which will have Todd Howard admitting to Skyrim's genericness.

TES V was a failed game, that's how I see it, anyway. But Howard has always struck me as candid and humble. So is that take just a hunch of yours or do you have something substantial to back it up?



The following is not specifically directed at you, but rather meant as a broad stroke remark.

These categories - casual, hardcore - have always sounded skewed and self-serving to me. I guess they amount to a subdued variant of the apparently wide-spread belief that RPGs are the modern day equivalent of Classical Greek literature, whose depth and breath only the high-cultured connoisseur could ever aspire to savour, while the illiterate mobs all gallop to the nearest mall for their weekly fix of mindless index finger reflex test, known as the FPS.

My first was because of the commercial success of Skyrim. I agree he has appeared humble mostly, but I've seen/read where he's been a little full of himself not unlike a lot of other developers.

Now for the second. In any of the videos for Skyrim I don't believe I saw one where they really put a lot emphasis on the story really. Sure they said dragons and civil war but their main point was open world and stuff to do. Of course story falls into stuff.

And of course you can turn Skyrim into a do it yourself role playing experience while you can't with The Witcher. I'll pick this up later, busy time.

 

[goopit]

65 MILLION DOLLAR MARKETING BUDGET

that's what made Skyrim a household name.

(or that's what I remember hearing, please correct me)

 

[Singami]

I do not at all feel compelled to explain or justify my sense of humor to you.

Well, given all the facts I've stated, it's quite possible you just have a really poor taste in humor. And that's fine.
But it's not fine when the game is catered to such people, with LOL EPIC MAYMAY ARROW TO DA KNEE XDDDD popping out every second conversation with an NPC.
Nobody says Witcher 3 will be like that, but surely, that little "joke" got a lot of people both afraid and mad. They're want this game to be good and they're shown something that is most certainly not good. They are afraid that this game will cater to Skyrim babbies and now CDP just thrown more fuel into their fires of fear.

 

[SkycladGuardian]

Well, given all the facts I've stated, it's quite possible you just have a really poor taste in humor. And that's fine.
But it's not fine when the game is catered to such people, with LOL EPIC MAYMAY ARROW TO DA KNEE XDDDD popping out every second conversation with an NPC.
Nobody says Witcher 3 will be like that, but surely, that little "joke" got a lot of people both afraid and mad. They're want this game to be good and they're shown something that is most certainly not good. They are afraid that this game will cater to Skyrim babbies and now CDP just thrown more fuel into their fires of fear.

Jesus Christ, it was only ONE frakkin line in a presentation. It was NOT a line of dialogue in the game, neither was it part of an official PR campaign of CDPR. My god, people, chill out!

 

[KnightofPhoenix]

But it's not fine when the game is catered to such people

I think it's fine that the game caters to the likes of me actually. The "unintelligent" member of the community that I am.

 

[Aditya]

65 MILLION DOLLAR MARKETING BUDGET

that's what made Skyrim a household name.

(or that's what I remember hearing, please correct me)

65m? I remember reading 100m back then, or maybe is that the total cost for development + marketing?

besides, goddam people, it was just a line, a joke. why get so much carried away?
and why is Singami attacking (to put it simply) KOP for his preferences? i find them funny too, don't tell me there is an accounting for tastes now

 

[Singami]

I think it's fine that the game caters to the likes of me actually. The "unintelligent" member of the community that I am.

But you already have games for yourself. You might be interested in titles like Borderlands 2, Minecraft or Skyrim. Also check out Call of Duty series or Mass Effect series, they might be to your liking.

But Witcher's main demographic isn't the 16-yo dudebros laughing at memes, it's hardcore RPG fans that want deeper stories, more mature content and tough combat. And they certainly aren't happy with CDPR dropping memes.

 

[vivaxardas2015]

God damn it, I've logged in after a year of inactivity just to say this: DO NOT GO THIS WAY.

I suppose it wasn't in your intentions, that you're not trying to create "The Witchmeme 3: Wild Meme" which so much people are afraid of right now, but you have to understand, that PR is a really sensitive thing and most of your community features intelligent people, that HATE those childish excuses for jokes called memes.

People were already afraid that "you're aiming for the Skyrim audience" (even though it was mostly reporters fault, for asking you to compare W3 to Skyrim over and over again) and you've just thrown more fuel into the fire. And on top of that it's possibly the most hated meme-joke in existence, who ever thought it was a good idea?

You say it's not that bad, that it's not important - it is. Nobody is asking your for an official apology, that would be quite dumb, but there needs to be a STRONG message that this is an independent game that doesn't cater to nobody, especially console casuals. You can lose a ton of interest over this.

Well, given all the facts I've stated, it's quite possible you just have a really poor taste in humor. And that's fine.
But it's not fine when the game is catered to such people, with LOL EPIC MAYMAY ARROW TO DA KNEE XDDDD popping out every second conversation with an NPC.
Nobody says Witcher 3 will be like that, but surely, that little "joke" got a lot of people both afraid and mad. They're want this game to be good and they're shown something that is most certainly not good. They are afraid that this game will cater to Skyrim babbies and now CDP just thrown more fuel into their fires of fear.

People, what is fucking wrong with you? This was just a joke during the conference. What a fucking STRONG MESSAGE? Even to talk about 'OFFICIAL APOLOGY', though not require it? And what's up with insulting all these forum members who actually like Skyrim for what it is, and who are OK with this Skyrim meme, and other memes as well? You know if people start to be afraid or mad because of some little joke, just six words phrase, they should go and check their heads ASAP, because it is already a mental health issue. When people have issues with jokes CDPR members say, they definitely require professional help.

 

[KnightofPhoenix]

But Witcher's main demographic isn't the 16-yo dudebros laughing at memes, it's hardcore RPG fans that want deeper stories, more mature content and tough combat.

Ha! Trust me, I can clone you a hundred times over, and all hundred of you combined wouldn't understand and appreciate the Witcher, the intricacy of its plot, and the depth of its themes as much as I do.

Case in point.

Now you can stop embarrassing yourself and move on.

 

[didymos1120]

God damn it, I've logged in after a year of inactivity just to say this: DO NOT GO THIS WAY.

I suppose it wasn't in your intentions, that you're not trying to create "The Witchmeme 3: Wild Meme" which so much people are afraid of right now, but you have to understand, that PR is a really sensitive thing and most of your community features intelligent people, that HATE those childish excuses for jokes called memes.

People were already afraid that "you're aiming for the Skyrim audience" (even though it was mostly reporters fault, for asking you to compare W3 to Skyrim over and over again) and you've just thrown more fuel into the fire. And on top of that it's possibly the most hated meme-joke in existence, who ever thought it was a good idea?

You say it's not that bad, that it's not important - it is. Nobody is asking your for an official apology, that would be quite dumb, but there needs to be a STRONG message that this is an independent game that doesn't cater to nobody, especially console casuals. You can lose a ton of interest over this.

Jesus. I thought the OP was lacking a sense of proportion. Was your father killed by an arrow to the knee or something?

 

[gregski]

Personal remarks are stopping here, please discuss the topic without them.

 

[GuyNwah]

God damn it, I've logged in after a year of inactivity just to say this: DO NOT GO THIS WAY.

"CRITIC, n. A person who boasts himself hard to please because nobody tries to please him." [Bierce]

Do you really want the Red team to take you so seriously that they clam up and say nothing that hasn't been approved by PR? That's what attacking them for off-the-cuff comments does. That's what companies who have come to fear their self-proclaimed fans do.

Making, publishing, buying, and playing games is supposed to be fun. There is no other reason to do any of these things at all. Disapproval in the name of high seriousness has no place in this.

 

[Agent_Blue]

And what's up with insulting all these forum members who actually like Skyrim for what it is, and who are OK with this Skyrim meme, and other memes as well?

I agree.

The veiled suggestion that those who bought and or appreciate SKyrim - 11 000 000 - were either conned by the marketing or are just mindless teens is ludicrous. This from someone who finds TES V a failed game, well, for the most part, at least.

The sectarian impetus first erects an imaginary divide between RPGs' and FPSs' audiences and then proceeds to further refine its self-serving self-fulfilling delusion by labelling and segregating gamers who enjoy TES from TW fans.

I think it's OK to either dislike or appreciate the meme in question. Frankly, I'm not too fond of it. But to throw derogatory tags just based off on these preferences, now that's just silly.

 

[Savber123]

If you want CDPR to even take you seriously, try writing a cohesive post with proper grammar.

Edit: Sorry didn't see the RED post.

Update #1 Try to use proper grammar before calling other people 'retarded'.

 

[GuyNwah]

Moderator: We have members from all over the world, many of whom are not native English speakers, with a wide range of proficiency in English. Therefore we do not demand "proper grammar" as a condition of posting here.

 

[Singami]

People, what is fucking wrong with you? This was just a joke during the conference. What a fucking STRONG MESSAGE? Even to talk about 'OFFICIAL APOLOGY', though not require it? And what's up with insulting all these forum members who actually like Skyrim for what it is, and who are OK with this Skyrim meme, and other memes as well? You know if people start to be afraid or mad because of some little joke, just six words phrase, they should go and check their heads ASAP, because it is already a mental health issue. When people have issues with jokes CDPR members say, they definitely require professional help.

It's was an extremely bad joke. I've already explained why memes are an extremely low form of humor and they shouldn't find their way into a mature and serious game.
But nobody actually believes that this game will be meme-ridden... am I right? Well, a lot of people got confused, those are mostly people that recognize Skyrim as a really poor game and are afraid that the Witcher franchise will take the drastic turn towards casualization.
Nobody is "angry". A lot of people are afraid though.

Ha! Trust me, I can clone you a hundred times over, and all hundred of you combined wouldn't understand and appreciate the Witcher, the intricacy of its plot, and the depth of its themes as much as I do.

Case in point.

Now you can stop embarrassing yourself and move on.

That isn't even an argument. Try again.

"CRITIC, n. A person who boasts himself hard to please because nobody tries to please him." [Bierce]

Do you really want the Red team to take you so seriously that they clam up and say nothing that hasn't been approved by PR? That's what attacking them for off-the-cuff comments does. That's what companies who have come to fear their self-proclaimed fans do.

Making, publishing, buying, and playing games is supposed to be fun. There is no other reason to do any of these things at all. Disapproval in the name of high seriousness has no place in this.

Games are an artform. Claiming that "art is just for fun" is simply wrong, people look for a lot of other things in art. In case of the Witcher, they look for a deep storyline, tough choices, maybe even a bit of self-discovery.
I'm explaining the situation at hand - a lot of people are afraid that Witcher will stop being a deep and mature RPG and start being Skyrim v2.0. I'm seeing a serious anger not only here, but mostly on the other parts of the internet as well. Using a 1-year old meme, that was never funny, that's probably the most hated meme in existence and also correlates to a game that nobody wants to see CDPR correlating to is a serious PR mistake.

 

[KnightofPhoenix]

That isn't even an argument. Try again.

Oh it is. It is a demonstration of my grasp of TW's plot and its themes, and my appreciation of them, which you evidently didn't bother to look at. As such, your ridiculous implication that I am a 16 year old dudebro who is not mature enough for it because of a difference in sense of humor, has been utterly refuted.

Now if you want to pass on as mature, by overreacting to a joke, then I suggest you try again.

 

[Cs__sz__r]

More butthurt in this thread than a federal penitentiary .