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Kinley

Kinley

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#121
May 22, 2014


Holy mother of wall of texts.
 
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fantasywind

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#122
May 22, 2014
I did this for your torment the great people of ,,web of darkness" aka internet Buahahahahaha!!! As for nilfgaard giving equal status for people I don't see that coming anytimes soon (there is nobility in Nilfgaard which helds more privilages than you :) there is senate and council (or reference to it but emperor has ultimate power, and it's clear that on conquered territories it is the new nilfgaardian elite that are masters and who is servant, also I wouldn't want to live in land where exists slavery and slave trade brrrr no sir!!!
 
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fantasywind

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#123
May 22, 2014
Also I think that Stephen Skellen's idealistic (and totally unreal in his reality :)) notions of instating a constitutional monarchy and in final stage democracy are clouding some people to think that indeed in Nilfgaard there is more freedom or equality than in Northern Kingdoms, this is fairy tale, nobles, merchant guilds and corporations (like that of Leuvaarden) will always exploit others in Nilfgaard and emperor won't EVER ALLOW TO LESSEN THEIR power. Not til Emhyr lives (but I doubt that next emperors who appear to be ascending the throne out of single dynastic line would too, Morvran Voorhis is next emperor, he is son of one of the nobles discussed already during the plot of nobillity, but he was also relative of Emhyr, of the next one Jan Calveit we know nothing, we also heard about Emhyr ancestors, presumably his grandpa Torres and father Fergus var Emreis, there is also this unknown usurper who claimed power from Fergus). Don't believe that Nilfgaard is more enlighted than any other state in witcher world nor that any emperor/imperator was ever more enlighted ruler, they are absolute tyrannical leaders with ruthless policy in securing their power. I think that some people here think that quest for power is NOT BAD in itself!! What is the worth of power if you loose your humanity to get it, also seeking power and control with ruthless methods IS EVIL no matter how you try to justify it.
 
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SMiki55

SMiki55

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#124
May 31, 2014
Praise the Great Sun!​


http://smiki55.deviantart.com/art/Nilfgaardian-Suns-457598375

 
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EmperorZorn

EmperorZorn

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#125
May 31, 2014
SMiki55 said:
Praise the Great Sun!​
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Thank you great sun, for giving me a tan today !
 
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Sam44

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#126
May 31, 2014
SMiki55 said:
Praise the Great Sun!​


http://smiki55.deviantart.com/art/Nilfgaardian-Suns-457598375

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I like the first one :).
 
EmperorZorn

EmperorZorn

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#127
May 31, 2014
Red0oG said:
I like the first one :).
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They could be different banners ; the first as an imperial flag, the second as army banner and the third as standard of the Emperor (the fuller the sun, the more important).

I like them all to be honest.
SMiki has done an outstanding job, as always.
 
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Sam44

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#128
May 31, 2014
Yup I like them all, just the first one "stands out" the most to me :)
 
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randyrhoads

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#129
May 31, 2014
Kinley said:


Holy mother of wall of texts.
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Cuz that nilfgaardian sun could hurt your eyes.
 
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SMiki55

SMiki55

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#130
May 31, 2014
 
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randyrhoads

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#131
May 31, 2014
SMiki55 said:
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so Emhyr
wow
 
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Sephira

Sephira

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#132
Jul 2, 2014
Where I've already seen this? :hmmm:

 
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wichat

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#133
Jul 10, 2014
Synvael said:
Where I've already seen this? :hmmm:

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It's described so in the books. Nilgaarian's military uniform has a wing at each side of helm
 
didymos1120

didymos1120

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#134
Jul 11, 2014
wichat said:
It's described so in the books. Nilgaarian's military uniform has a wing at each side of helm
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Actually, it's only cavalry officers that do that. And they all have different types of wings too.
 
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vall3ntin

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#135
Aug 8, 2014
For Nilfgaard!

I am making this thread to defend Nilfgaard, and i will post reasons to show why i think Nilfgaard is better than the Northern Kingdoms in the long run, so let's make a comparison:
- Both Nilfgaard and the Northern Kingdoms employ torture, however it is suggested that the empire uses torture a little bit less,SPOILER ALERT: (making spoiler thingy not working from my PC for some reason, sorry) when Letho says they were just interrogated with no violence... as opposed to the guards who beat up Geralt while waiting to be interrogated...
- In war time both have done evil deeds: the nordlings, especially the Temerians have their standard procedure: RAPE, MURDER, PILLAGE, SPOILER ALERT: Look at woe to the vanquished quest, says enough about how ruthless northern armies can be, and Nilfgaad did executed civillians for the purpose of intimidation. however. they were somewhat limited. i could not find any evidence where they used total devastation, this is not much of a comparison as both parties acted reprehensible, however i belive Nilfgaard is still a bit, just a very small bit better, since they might go easy on places where locals support them, and in the case of northeners, look what they done at Loc Muinne if you don't save Triss, they go after sorceresses and THE SOLDIERS decide that ALL mages are traitors and bang, don't think it's like that with Nilfgaard, i think they might be a bit more controlled and driven by superiors motives than to rape, murder and pillage like the nordling soldiers...
- Now the big part, Northern Kingdoms are racist towards to elder races. Nilfgaard is tolerant towards them, and this is a huge + in my book for Nilfgaard, i mean for a medieval/primitive society to be tolerant towards others who are not like you, pretty much says it all!
- Nilfgaard has discipline, i mean sorceresses wear full body uniform and have a mandatory moral code, i know it sounds kinda opressive but i think it is marginally better than to let sorceresses walk around SPOILER: dressed up like a whore on parade day.
- Nilfgaard probably has better culture and are more civilised than nordlings, in fact, the northern inhabitants are mostly rude, uncivilised, illiterate, savage, superstitious, racist barbarians, SPOILER: Shilard mentioned in the prologue of TW2 that Nilfgaard brings their cultutre to the people and count Maravel states that Temeria faces problems with superstition. inculture and savagery!
- Emperor Emhyr has indeed innocent blood on his hands, but not as much as Northern monarchs, SPOILER: especially HENSELT, that guy was a monster!!!
And for my final argumet, The North is a WORLD HALF EMPTY, while Nilfgaard is a WORLD HALF FULL!!! While Nilfgaard does have many problems, it is still MARGINALLY BETTER, and I repeat, just MARGINALLY BETTER than The Northern Kingdoms, and i belive good change is much more likely to come from Nilfgaard rather than the North!!! Please defend Nilfgaard if there are more supporters out there, i will definetly side with Nilfgaard in TW 3!
 
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didymos1120

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#136
Aug 8, 2014
vall3ntin said:
- Nilfgaard has discipline, i mean sorceresses wear full body uniform and have a mandatory moral code, i know it sounds kinda opressive but i think it is marginally better than to let sorceresses walk around SPOILER: dressed up like a whore on parade day.
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Well, no they don't have either of those. It's just that it's less socially acceptable for sorceresses to get all fancy (some do it anyway though. Fringilla and Assire being notable examples). Also, they're grown-ass women. They can dress however the fuck they want.
 
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Gilrond-i-Virdan

Gilrond-i-Virdan

Forum veteran
#137
Aug 8, 2014
Nilfgaard is police state like. Orderly but oppressive (it associates to me with imperials from Star Wars). May be they don't tolerate open racism, but they don't tolerate independent thought either. It's not better, it's also bad, just different.
 
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vivaxardas2015

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#138
Aug 8, 2014
Gilrond said:
Nilfgaard is police state like. Orderly but oppressive (it associates to me with imperials from Star Wars). May be they don't tolerate open racism, but they don't tolerate independent thought either. It's not better, it's also bad, just different.
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Well, Nilfgaard is inspired by the empires of the past, not of the future. With Byzantine sun emblem, Habsburg colors (black and yellow/gold), and sort of Roman/Holy Roman (Germanic) Empire vibe of military units it is, I guess, a representation of the ultimate empire. Given that Poland did not have a good history with ANY European empire (Germany, Austro-Hungary, and Russia simply tore it into three peaces once upon a time), it is no wonder that Nilfgaard is not presented as a good place. It is presented through northern eyes, after all. But exactly as for historical empires, none of which was a realm of evil, and from other perspectives they may be seen as safe, stable, and even heroic, Nilfgaard is just Nilfgaard, neither good nor evil, a country with its own advantages and faults. I sure take it over Northern kingdoms any day, but I am from Russia, and with ancestors from Austria. So I just happen to like imperial way of life. :)

And yeah, in TW3 I am with Nilfgaard all the way.

Gott erhalte Emhyr den Kaiser
Unsern guten Kaiser Emhyr!
 
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Gilrond-i-Virdan

Gilrond-i-Virdan

Forum veteran
#139
Aug 8, 2014
Russia had a significant anarchist movement as well (see about Kropotkin). Also Russia featured the free Novgorod earlier. So while history there was heavily autocratic with imperial ambitions (either with tsars or Bolsheviks or where it's heading now), there were those who didn't accept that.

Empires of the past were quite different, so I wouldn't lump them all together into one pile. Some were less crooked, some were more. Some empires were clearly racist and backwards thinking (Byzantine empire for exmaple), while others were more progressive (empire of Charlemagne for instance).
 
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SMiki55

SMiki55

Mentor
#140
Aug 30, 2014
I have demolished the ancient metropoly of Val'kare. I've raised land of Zerrikania - now its tattooed warrior women are only the nice addition to my harem. I've conquered Lyria, Rivia, Sodden and Aedirn. I've burned meadows of Dol Blathanna. I've turned proud tsar of Kaedwen into my vassal. All inhabitants of the Northern Kingdoms are trembling at the sight of my power.

Yesterday I was leader of Haaks of the Az'Rhat, the Grand Steppes - land which you know as "Haakland". Today I am ruler of the North. Tomorrow I'll be emperor of your empire.

I'm Smikhiil Khaan and I'm declare a war to you, emperor Calveit. You said that Nilfgaardian Empire is the strongest empire in known world? Let's see.

 
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