Like I said, for me it's matter of principle. All pre-release material was how 2077 is an adult city and mature game yet it is not less adult than gta 5.
At any rate, gog has month return policy with any play time, right?
At any rate, gog has month return policy with any play time, right?
As Johnny Silverhand would say, "Definitely some Fuckery afoot...".
Hey, I'll agree with you that the game did not come out as advertised, nor how I expected it to. I wanted more 18+ content as well. Does it ruin the game for me? Not really.
If you feel like the lack of nudity warrants your asking for a refund, then that is your prerogative.
That's a shame then. Didn't notice it myself, mostly because I didn't try running around naked and most of my playtime was spent in versions 1.03 and 1.04. My guess it that this will be re-added once the biggest issues (bugs) are fixed. Guess we'll see.
Hey, if their management GETS AWAY WITH THIS, I DO NOT CARE if the CUSTOMERS GET AWAY WITH MORE THAN THIS.
Thats ridiculous tbh. Its like you order a pizza and fully eat it and demand to get the money back.
Zack: "You scammed the world, I want a refund"
Microsoft: "Okay, here's your refund. We will remove the game from your library shortly"
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ikr.... it's also a solid reminder why a functioning education system is of vital importance.
Exchanging a part on a car is NOT censoring it is replacing the part on the car.
Censoring: "The suppression or proscription of speech or writing that is deemed obscene, indecent, or unduly controversial."
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There LEGALLY has to be a refund policy for all items sold officially. Illegal goods have no refund policy.
Sure.
But in context of video games where subject of what is good/bad is highly subjective you should not be able to get refund if you have clearly enjoyed the product in some extent to be able to go through main story or even spent time with the game more than short period of time.Even though the game is quite buggy in release and I surely understand the frustrations around the matter. But clearly over the top hype and unrealistic expectations is more of a reason for people refunding here. Some people and gaming "media" clearly misses the core of game style even when they compare cyberpunk to gta in example. Its just as absurd as comparing witcher to gta.
I strongly disagree! Censorship is the among the most valid reasons for a refund! You would not accept this in any other industry. Bought radio and after a while the manufacturer decides to limit the stations you can listen to via an "update"? You would accept that? I certainly would not! Why would you accept such behavior from a game developer? Limiting your experience after you paid for it (because you wanted that experience)! You are just plain wrong there! If i pay 60 bucks for an experience i will not accept it if this experience gets reduced/limited after payed for it!
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They advertised an immersive/living open world (among many other things) The game has less than 20% of what cdpr showed in the last 2 years of extensive marketing! Blaming costumers for expecting at least 50% of the promises to be fulfilled is beyond ridiculous and i strongly disagree with your assessment!Sure.
Even though the game is quite buggy in release and I surely understand the frustrations around the matter. But clearly over the top hype and unrealistic expectations is more of a reason for people refunding here. Some people and gaming "media" clearly misses the core of game style even when they compare cyberpunk to gta in example. Its just as absurd as comparing witcher to gta.
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Yes, there will be some people abusing the current refund policy. What do you want CDPR to do?
Stop refunding people until they can establish a system that checks your progress before refund?
Which is neither economical, given that they have just ruined their reputation, any delay will further doom their reputation.
Nor practical, consider they have multiple distribution channels that is not under CDPR's administration.
Stop refunding people until they can establish a system that checks your progress before refund?
Which is neither economical, given that they have just ruined their reputation, any delay will further doom their reputation.
Nor practical, consider they have multiple distribution channels that is not under CDPR's administration.
Refunds are primarily for a game not running on your system hence the console refunds.
Censorship is an excuse to try and get around the refund policy, it is not a valid reason for refunding.
Removing stations from a radio is again not censorship it is simply removing stations.
Censorship (for example) is bleeping swear words on a radio station.
True. To some extent. If the game would never have been advertised as it was, you would be right.
BUT CDPR did advertise it as a mature experience that would not censor you. And right after launch they first stealth censored it and let ppl believe it was a bug and then later clarified it in, imo, the least suitable way for the situation at the time.
So I should think that the censoring is a case of false advertisement and so a case for a refund.
Fallout 4 was advertised as "16 times the resolution" but what was not mentioned was Preston Garvey, settlements and the entire game loop concerning that, nor the bugs, nor the fact that to fix the bugs you need a unofficial patch.
I am a graphic designer and trust me censorship of a product has nothing to do with false advertising, censorship literally means in the case of games some content was cut prior to release in your country because it violated certain laws. Germany is a prime example.
False advertising would be "the best lager in the world" and why the term "probably the best lager in the world" is used.
So no, not a case for refunding.
I finished the game a week ago, haven't touched it ever since, and was left feeling depressed by it. Game play and bugs aside, I was hoping the story would make the journey fulfilling, eventually. All those great expectations (which, after all, were set by CD's PR) only to have the rug pulled from underneath my feet and getting kicked in the groin for good measure. Does that count as "badly affected"? Even if I could get a refund, which is unlikely considering I bought it on Steam, the damage would remain. Sure, video games are nothing but illusions, but this was disillusionment beyond good measure. Hope it was all worth it for the bean counters...
No, generally refunds are for faulty products/products that do not work as intended. On consoles this is the case, which is why CD Projekt Red are accepting refunds so willingly. They were probably concerned about customer lawsuits more than anything. You will be hard pressed to find a place that would accept a refund because you're simply unhappy with the product. Some companies will have some helpline that you can call and if you argue with them for a month they might give you some compensation, but this usually is only food products, like if you call up coca cola and say your sprite was flat they'll give you 500 cans of sprite if you're willing to waste your time going through the complaints system.
I do love this community. Having a discussion without hating on each other and just having opinions exchanged.
The FO4 part of your statement is definitely a case worth of a refund. Simply because the game does not run as intended and ruins your experience.
What you are talking about is regional censorship you can't do anything about. Take WoW f.e. China does / did censor the Undead character model. No bones sticking out and stuff. Does the game exist in a non censored version though? Yes.
What I am talking about is advertisement of no censorship and then stealthily censoring content on a global level for the whole community. And THAT is false advertisement. There is NO VERSION of the game that is uncensored, as it was advertised. I could live with regional censorship. There are ways around that. But this global thing? Sadly there is only one way around. Modding.
They also promised us the coming of RPG Jesus which did not happen (probably the're using the Mayan calendar and it is off a couple years again).