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Regarding Precious Cargo quest (Spoilers)

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Regarding Precious Cargo quest (Spoilers)

  • Turn over to nilfgaardians

    Votes: 23 18.7%
  • Let him go

    Votes: 55 44.7%
  • Let go without medicine

    Votes: 45 36.6%

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Kinley

Kinley

Ex-moderator
#101
Apr 23, 2015
Yeah Sapkowski must be mistaken then.
 
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Scholdarr.452

Banned
#102
Apr 23, 2015
Kinley said:
Yeah Sapkowski must be mistaken then.
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He never said that he hasn't taken ANY inspiration by the Third Reich. He just said that his main inspiration was the Roman empire.

Could be 40% Rome, 20% Third Reich, 10% Soviet Union and 30% completely own ideas or whatever. We don't know for sure.

By the way, that's becoming a bit off-topic, isn't it? ;)
 
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Luxorek

Forum veteran
#103
Apr 23, 2015
Kinley said:
Yeah Sapkowski must be mistaken then.
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It's the only logical explanation. Man lost his mind after writing the Saga. The Witcher TV show is a proof.

Open your eyes Kinley! Damn it.

 
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Tokei-ihto

Rookie
#104
Apr 23, 2015
Scholdarr.452 said:
But I'm still convinced that at least the black armors are a wanted resemblance to the Wehrmacht or SS. ;)
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You are of course aware that the Wehrmacht - a.k.a. The Third Reich's regular army and thus the closest analogy to the Nilfgaardian units that make an appearance in both books and games - was NOT clad in black clothes but wore grey(ish) garb. ;) The "Waffen SS", the combat branch of the organisatzion that actually fought on the frontline (and was responsible for many of the worst war crimes and atrocities), was a comparatively small paramilitary force that was not officialy part of the army.

And while Sapkowski makes use of certain terminologies, references and incidents thoughout the books that have their origin undeniable in WWII and Nazi Germany, I always thought of Nilfgaard as Sapkowski's version of the Roman Empire, augmented by (somewhat arbitrarily conflated) details derived from various historical cultures and epochs.

@Luxorek : Actually, most German-sounding names are found in the Northern Kingdoms. ;)

However, I'm at a loss how this all ties into the Precious Cargo Quest. :question:
 
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IronsteffL

Senior user
#105
Apr 23, 2015
Tokei-ihto said:
However, I'm at a loss how this all ties into the Precious Cargo Quest. :question:
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It's a little off-topic :D For my part, I was just thinking about to which extent Nilfgaard "deserves" help, or if you are helping the "bad guys" if you give them the medicine. Of course, The Witcher universe doesn't know what black and white is, but the similiarities to our world touch my mind.
 
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Lieste

Ex-moderator
#106
Apr 23, 2015
It influences certain prejudices that players bring against Nilfy-Germany... which seem wrong to me... if you must use WWI-WWII-Post War as an example, then I'd go with Kaedwen as Germany and Nilfgaard as Russia, with Aedern/Temeria as Poland and Czech... The attack at Dol Angra/Glevitzingen was launched by Kaedweni forces, and it was the counter thrust by Nilfgaard that pushed the Northern forces back until a settled peace was agreed.

There are "Finlandisation", and satellite states as concepts as well.
 
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Scottie03

Rookie
#107
Apr 23, 2015
Isn't there some kind of law of war that persons carrying medicine aren't to be killed? In the video, you see Geralt saying: Looks like a clean shot to the neck (or something along those lines) meaning to me; the solider could have aimed at the caravan driver's leg and not kill him if he wanted the meds...Also, he lied and tried to trick Gerald which doesn't work well and pissed Gerald off. So...I would have turned him in as well.
 
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Lieste

Ex-moderator
#108
Apr 23, 2015
Scottie03 said:
Gerald
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Begone with this abomination... :mean:
 
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Scholdarr.452

Banned
#109
Apr 23, 2015
Lieste said:
It influences certain prejudices that players bring against Nilfy-Germany... which seem wrong to me... if you must use WWI-WWII-Post War as an example, then I'd go with Kaedwen as Germany and Nilfgaard as Russia, with Aedern/Temeria as Poland and Czech... The attack at Dol Angra/Glevitzingen was launched by Kaedweni forces, and it was the counter thrust by Nilfgaard that pushed the Northern forces back until a settled peace was agreed.

There are "Finlandisation", and satellite states as concepts as well.
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You forgot Redania... ;)

And I have no prejudices against Nilfy-Germany. I'm German myself... :D


And sorry for the off-topic. Again.
 
Mekari

Mekari

Senior user
#110
Apr 23, 2015
While it's obvious that multiple historical empires influenced the Nilfgaardians, I would not think that the Nazi's would be much of an influence for the black ones when compared to those other empires, for the simple fact that Sapkowski's books had no clear cut good vs evil side. I think Vilgefortz comes the closest to standardized evil in the books.
 
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xemerson

Rookie
#111
Apr 23, 2015
Its such a Hard decision, but i think my Geralt would have wanted to interrogate him more. We know very little of his actual background and it would be unfair to just give him over, i would try to remain neutral and let him go but take the medicine back to the Nilfgaardians. Unless the person has tried to kill me or those i hold dear he is of no interest, and political sides mean nothing in my opinion, everyone is different.
 
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JacobWitcher

Banned
#112
Apr 23, 2015
Easy question.

He shot a horse with an arrow.
That's animal cruelty.
The horse did not survive.
And he killed a tradesman, not a soldier.

You don't kill horses and their tradesman.

You steal from tradesman, you kill soldiers. Okay.

So I don't want him to kill another horse and tradesman.
 
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Scholdarr.452

Banned
#113
Apr 23, 2015
Mekari said:
While it's obvious that multiple historical empires influenced the Nilfgaardians, I would not think that the Nazi's would be much of an influence for the black ones when compared to those other empires, for the simple fact that Sapkowski's books had no clear cut good vs evil side. I think Vilgefortz comes the closest to standardized evil in the books.
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I think you forgot Leo Bonhart. He's at least as evil as Vilgefortz... ;)

Oh, and the Aen Elle...and a lot of people Geralt met on the way... ;)
 
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xemerson

Rookie
#114
Apr 23, 2015
Leo was stupidly evil for no reason compared to the others :p
 
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Lieste

Ex-moderator
#115
Apr 23, 2015
But many of them aren't evil any more... Geralt (and friends)... um ... enhanced them.
 
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xemerson

Rookie
#116
Apr 23, 2015
Many good people had to die to get rid of them though :(
 
Mekari

Mekari

Senior user
#117
Apr 24, 2015
Scholdarr.452 said:
I think you forgot Leo Bonhart. He's at least as evil as Vilgefortz... ;)

Oh, and the Aen Elle...and a lot of people Geralt met on the way... ;)
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I could have mentioned Stefan Skellen too...

but both he and Bonhart end up following Vilgefortz. Everyone else Geralt killed could not be construed to have purely evil intent, even Skellen had a plan for a democracy but believed that the ends justified the means. As for the Aen Elle, they are probably more xenophobic than humans and if you agree with it or not their "evilness" is born of humans taking their lands. Vilgefortz has none of that he just wants to become a god like being
 
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MasterDassJennir

Rookie
#118
Apr 24, 2015
I would let him go but without the medicine. I have no love for nilfgardians but i also can't fully trust him since he lied before.
Also i may got some money from this request by selling the medicine.
 
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TheMorbidAtheist

Senior user
#119
Apr 24, 2015
JacobWitcher said:
Easy question.

He shot a horse with an arrow.
That's animal cruelty.
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I think farming livestock animals and keeping them in slaughterhouses their whole life is a much bigger cruelty.
 
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Foxtrot1994

Rookie
#120
Apr 24, 2015
Yo! Witcher 1 music and menu sound effects? Just when I thought this game couldn't sell me more!

And also, the quest shows very well how, in the Witcher world, even apparently insignificant matters can result in moral choices. Awesome.
 
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