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Roche's path in Chapter 3

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Rayquorz

Junior Member
#1
Roche's path in Chapter 3

Is it just me or does Roche's path seem to have a lot more content in chapter 3? When I played Iorveth's path (a while ago, though) chapter 3 felt like the developer's rushed to finished it. Compared to chapter 1 and 2 there seemed to be little quests and it was over soon. On Roche's path chapter 3 felt much more on par with chapter 1 and 2.
 

Riven-Twain

Moderator
#2
Rayquorz;n8307460 said:
Is it just me or does Roche's path seem to have a lot more content in chapter 3?
As I recall, the entire quest 'Lilies and Vipers' was added to Chapter III of Roche's path, when the Enhanced Edition of the game was released. This may account for the difference in content. Although, 'The Secrets of Loc Muinne' was also added for Iorveth's path.
 

ninawindia

Poser
#3
I think it's rather balanced with both paths (with the Secrets of Loc Muinne)- I did notice that depending on the paths you choose you either get a longer chapter 2 or a longer Chapter 3.
 

sv3672

Max-Tac
#4
If the numbers here are to be believed, there is indeed a fair bit more Roche content in the game than Iorveth. Although it is somewhat understandable given their roles in the story, you meet Iorveth later than Roche, and he needs to hide from the guards in Loc Muinne, so it also makes sense that he is seen less there. The last chapter is indeed rushed, the developers were running out of money and the game had to be released, there was originally even a fourth chapter planned that was cut. The enhanced edition improved the third chapter somewhat with the new quests.
 

Rayquorz

Junior Member
#5
Riven-Twain;n8307700 said:
As I recall, the entire quest 'Lilies and Vipers' was added to Chapter III of Roche's path, when the Enhanced Edition of the game was released. This may account for the difference in content. Although, 'The Secrets of Loc Muinne' was also added for Iorveth's path.
When I played Iorveth's path Secrets of Loc Muinne was already added. Strange though, that CDPR adds more Roche content than Iorveth content.

ninawindia;n8309680 said:
I think it's rather balanced with both paths (with the Secrets of Loc Muinne)- I did notice that depending on the paths you choose you either get a longer chapter 2 or a longer Chapter 3.
This is an interesting lead for the perceived difference between chapter 2 and 3. Which path would be which?

sv3672;n8312330 said:
If the numbers here are to be believed, there is indeed a fair bit more Roche content in the game than Iorveth. Although it is somewhat understandable given their roles in the story, you meet Iorveth later than Roche, and he needs to hide from the guards in Loc Muinne, so it also makes sense that he is seen less there. The last chapter is indeed rushed, the developers were running out of money and the game had to be released, there was originally even a fourth chapter planned that was cut. The enhanced edition improved the third chapter somewhat with the new quests.
Interesting numbers, thanks. It is indeed a pity (though not nearly as pitiful as the rushed chapter 3) that we do not know how much these numbers are influenced by the prologue and chapter 1.
 

ooodrin

Booster
#6
Rayquorz;n8312960 said:
This is an interesting lead for the perceived difference between chapter 2 and 3. Which path would be which?
Iorveth's path in Ch 2 is noticeably longer.
Even after EE, you're still most likely going to finish the game 2-3 levels higher should you decide to follow Iorveth.
 

ninawindia

Poser
#7
Rayquorz;n8312960 said:
This is an interesting lead for the perceived difference between chapter 2 and 3. Which path would be which?
Roach's Ch 2 felt longer. Mainly since it took me forever to understand where I need to go and what I need to do. A lot of small quests to fill around it. Iorveth felt a lot a shorter and quicker (Less items to find in the symbol of war).

I felt like Iorveth had a longer chapter 3, with all the stone puzzles available and Philippa's room and quests there.
 

sv3672

Max-Tac
#8
Rayquorz;n8312960 said:
Interesting numbers, thanks. It is indeed a pity (though not nearly as pitiful as the rushed chapter 3) that we do not know how much these numbers are influenced by the prologue and chapter 1.
For Iorveth vs. Roche, I also have the numbers for each chapter from an older post:
Prologue (Iorveth / Roche): 0 / 130
Chapter 1: 174 / 180
Chapter 2: 99 / 168
Chapter 3: 104 / 241
Misc. (voice set, default dialogue): 52 / 77
Of course, these are only for the characters themselves, and do not necessarily mean that Iorveth's path is lacking in quest content. Other characters may play a larger role, like Philippa in Chapter 2.