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Romance and Sex in The Witcher 3

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Sagitarii

Sagitarii

Mentor
#121
Aug 8, 2014
mkdewidar said:
Additionally we are not a small group demanding for something random, we are asking protection from what is wrong, something that quite frankly everyone should be asking for, and you'll see; one day sex will be socially accepted and your (grand)grandchildren will suffer from it.
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U WOT M8?
I'm sorry I just can't take you seriously anymore.

You know that you are a result of sex? Or they didn't teach you this in your culture?
My grandchildren will suffer, when the sex is banned, not the other way around, mainly because, well, they won't exist.
 
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Aes Sídhe

Aes Sídhe

Forum veteran
#122
Aug 8, 2014
@Kinley; Good point, the open study & discourse of our larger history you've clearly been exposed to in the open society that is much of the West, has clearly a wise man in you made !

Similar learning & openness & free-thought & culture allows me to say with absolute surety that my exposure to any portion head to toe of the female body would never make me regress to some brutish lout that can't control his libido... it's a mystery to me why some people insist on blaming our fine human females for their own personal weaknesses.
 
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Blothulfur

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#123
Aug 8, 2014
I know what Mkdewidar means, I have a confession to make, I'm just too goddamn sexy. You lot don't know what its like to be lusted after by everyone you walk past, gender, species whatever, they all look at me with lustful eyes and it's a pain to be honest. Being groped when you bend over, it's lucky my buttocks are so hairy otherwise they'd be bruised to hell.

So try and have a bit of empathy for those of us who are just too sexy, our burden is great, and we're not just big pieces of meat.
 
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mkdewidar

Forum regular
#124
Aug 8, 2014
Kudos said:
Yes, of course, but if you get what you want, then i'll ask for something too, and the next guy / culture / ideology, then the next... ad infinitum.

Where do they draw the line ?

They draw it on the borders of the source material. I'm afraid that in your case this is to be expected in this game, and it wouldn't be the same without it. Options for all kinds of things would be great, but adds to their workload, just as the player having to identify a Pro from the graphical heaving bosom saves us from having to hear "only 5$" on a loop.

Don't underestimate the workload you are requesting here.

Also don't belive that old line some people push that Western culture is full of nudity etc, I live in the west, and I'd have to go looking to find such beauty !
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We draw the line at the what's right, nudity is wrong, so no matter what people ask for we shouldn't have included it in our media in the first place, it should've been restricted to porn.

What I'm asking for is protection, I want to protect myself from wrong which people have now accepted as being ok.

I know that what people say about western countries isn't completely true, especially since I've lived in the UK for 5+ years, also I'm arab so i hear that crap a lot! :)
 
Kinley

Kinley

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#125
Aug 8, 2014
I don't know about anyone else, but whenever I see Bloth I do turn into a brutish lout. I just can't control myself. I sure hope my grandchildren will not suffer from this. Oh woe is me.

mkdewidar said:
you'll see; one day sex will be socially accepted and your (grand)grandchildren will suffer from it.
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News flash, sex is very much socially accepted where I'm from. All of my ancestors fucked at some point (mainly proven by the fact I'm here) and I ended up (pretty much) just fine.
 
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mkdewidar

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#126
Aug 8, 2014
Blothulfur said:
I know what Mkdewidar means, I have a confession to make, I'm just too goddamn sexy. You lot don't know what its like to be lusted after by everyone you walk past, gender, species whatever, they all look at me with lustful eyes and it's a pain to be honest. Being groped when you bend over, it's lucky my buttocks are so hairy otherwise they'd be bruised to hell.

So try and have a bit of empathy for those of us who are just too sexy, our burden is great, and we're not just big pieces of meat.
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What the...? Lololololololol
 
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Sagitarii

Sagitarii

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#127
Aug 8, 2014
@mkdewidar Protect yourself and your family by not playing the game that has things you don't want to see.
 
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Kinley

Kinley

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#128
Aug 8, 2014
mkdewidar said:
We draw the line at the what's right, nudity is wrong, so no matter what people ask for we shouldn't have included it in our media in the first place, it should've been restricted to porn.
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Please spare us the social commentary.
 
Sagitarii

Sagitarii

Mentor
#129
Aug 8, 2014
Kinley said:
Please spare us the social commentary.
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Especially a bullshit one.
 
Aes Sídhe

Aes Sídhe

Forum veteran
#130
Aug 8, 2014
mkdewidar said:
We draw the line at the what's right, nudity is wrong, so no matter what people ask for we shouldn't have included it in our media in the first place, it should've been restricted to porn.
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That is your opinion, and you are entitled to it, but that does not make it Universal Truth. I for one disagree with the sentiments hidden behind such ideology. Our bodies, and sex, are purely biology, we have set taboos around them to create social norms, because we are a social animal and over history we have found that we must construct norms of behaviour to mitigate the extreme behaviour of a minority. But that has evloved through history with us, where it has been allowed to, to the point that your concerns are no longer of relevance to educated, gentle, egalitarians such as myself. Please catch up !

What I'm asking for is protection, I want to protect myself from wrong which people have now accepted as being ok.
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Fine, do so if you feel the need to, but that protection you seek? Don't transfer it to an external locus, rather find it within yourself, you'll be better for it.
 
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Garrison72

Garrison72

Mentor
#131
Aug 8, 2014
9 posts

Just made an account..

Yep.
 
EmperorZorn

EmperorZorn

Moderator
#132
Aug 8, 2014
Sagitarii said:
@mkdewidar Protect yourself and your family by not playing the game that has things you don't want to see.
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I couldn't have said it better, Sagi.

This is like a vegetarian ordering a hamburger and then complaining that there is meat in it,
demanding the chef to change the recipe.
 
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Kinley

Kinley

Ex-moderator
#133
Aug 8, 2014
EmperorZorn said:
This is like a vegetarian ordering a hamburger and then complaining that there is meat in it,
demanding the chef to change the recipe.
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I heard of that happening, people will never cease to amaze me.
 
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mkdewidar

Forum regular
#134
Aug 8, 2014
Jupiter on Mars said:
No.

When it comes to core aspects, I am really opposed to turning the series into an all-inclusive buffet where everyone gets to pick and choose and compose their own plate. TW is fine dining and fine dining will never cater to everyone. I wouldn't have devs skewing their creative vision just so the game is palatable to this or that demographic. In the end, if you really find TW objectionable, then by all means exert your right to pass and find yourself another title amongst the huge selection out there.

Additionally, creating what amounts to alternate takes is an appalling waste of precious resources in a development process already hard pressed for time and manpower.

No.
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I'm not asking that it becomes an all open buffet, I'm not asking for this feature in the same way gays ask for inclusivity, I'm asking this in the same way that a prisonor asks for food, it's something that should've been their but isn't because of some inexplicable reason.

Also if we're gonna talk about manpower and resources then I don't think we should be having these in the first place; you know manpower and resources wasting in animating and programming and adding sounds and so on.
 
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shinobi2u

Forum veteran
#135
Aug 8, 2014
Sex and the naked body is a wonderful, natural, and beautiful thing. It can also be a terrible and crass thing depending on how it is portrayed and what your tastes are. Like all things in the world, there are good sides and bad sides to everything.

I wish sex was as accepted as violence seems to be where I am. I personally love that the Witcher franchise embraces it and handles it well.
 
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Blothulfur

Mentor
#136
Aug 8, 2014
You're lucky though that no computer yet forged by man can capture the sensuality and raw sexuality that is me! The beads of sweat trickling down my chest hair, the twinkling of my prosthetic eye, the black and white checkerboard of my missing teeth, the impressive bulge of the hump on my back, the slice of last weeks pizza in my beard. If such a device is ever made then I say BAN IT! For the good of humanity, else spouses are abandoned and I am pursued by incessant hordes of the aroused.
 
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EmperorZorn

EmperorZorn

Moderator
#137
Aug 8, 2014
Blothulfur said:
For the good of humanity, else spouses are abandoned and I am pursued by incessant hordes of the aroused.
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I feel for you, reminds me of my last vacation to Malmö.
 
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shinobi2u

Forum veteran
#138
Aug 8, 2014
Blothulfur said:
You're lucky though that no computer yet forged by man can capture the sensuality and raw sexuality that is me! The beads of sweat trickling down my chest hair, the twinkling of my prosthetic eye, the black and white checkerboard of my missing teeth, the impressive bulge of the hump on my back, the slice of last weeks pizza in my beard. If such a device is ever made then I say BAN IT! For the good of humanity, else spouses are abandoned and I am pursued by incessant hordes of the aroused.
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@Blothulfur You just made me laugh so hard and became my favorite person of the day!
 
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dragonbird

Ex-moderator
#139
Aug 8, 2014
mkdewidar said:
Actually I don't think it's most cultures accept it as ok, it's just that America accepts and as long as America does it everyone thinks it's ok. That's not to say that other cultures don't do it though, some do, but not most.
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Further comments of this nature will not be permitted in these forums. You are asking as an individual for specific features, others are responding as individuals.

Additionally we are not a small group demanding for something random, we are asking protection from what is wrong,
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Again, you are requesting this as an individual, not as a representative of any cultural group. As a courtesy to members of this forum who share your culture but do not endorse your request, please refrain from claiming to represent anyone other than yourself.

This also applies to anyone responding to the comments. Any cultural stereotyping will result very rapidly in moderator action.
 
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Jupiter_on_Mars

Guest
#140
Aug 8, 2014
mkdewidar said:
Actually I don't think it's most cultures accept it as ok, it's just that America accepts and as long as America does it everyone thinks it's ok. That's not to say that other cultures don't do it though, some do, but not most.

Also if you know it's tabu then why allow it? That's like saying stealing is ok, but we'll let people steal cause it provides a balance in the society.

Also sex doesn't make a mature game correct? A mature game is one that discuss's topics which grown ups face and shows what's right and what's wrong such as treachery and dictatorships and tyrants and corruption. Not just sex.

Also I don't oppose the fact that theirs sex, I oppose the fact that I'm forced to see it.

Of course in my culture violence and gore isn't accepted, but sex isn't accepted because of how tabu it is and how much curroption it can cause, nudity in video games has the same effect as sex outside of it; violence however doesn't since the reason violence isn't accepted is cause it results in innocent people dying and pain to the family's of those who die, in video games no such pain occurs and no souls suffer.

So CDPR shouldn't waste time adding a line of code to censor a 3d model but they should waste time modelling it and animating the humping and record the orgasms and programming it into the game? It's part of the world sure, but did you have to show it? Why not just blur it or do like bioware? So adding what's wrong is not a waste of time while not doing so isn't?

Also why not apply that "small group and big group" talk in the real world first, I mean you already allow gays and transgenders and what not now, imagine what they will ask for later.

Additionally we are not a small group demanding for something random, we are asking protection from what is wrong, something that quite frankly everyone should be asking for, and you'll see; one day sex will be socially accepted and your (grand)grandchildren will suffer from it.

Also being able to "withstand" nudity has nothing to do with maturity.
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I don't even know where to begin. You're just pilling fallacy on top of fallacy on top of fallacy. It's like the leaning tower of Pisa of fallacies.

I especially take issue with this sort of remark, the kind that has now become a trademark of self-appointed spokespersons:

Additionally we are not a small group demanding for something random, we are asking protection from what is wrong, something that quite frankly everyone should be asking for, and you'll see; one day sex will be socially accepted and your (grand)grandchildren will suffer from it.
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Who's «we»? How many of «you» are there? Who elected you «their» representative?

I urge you to resist the temptation to preach. Should you decide to go off on a tangent again and bring real life morality into the discussion - assuming mods will even allow it, which I'm highly doubtful - then you can expect a full-fledged vehement rebuttal.

I'm out of here.
Have a wonderful day.
 
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