Romance disappointment... (features that should be added)

[XxSalviixX]

What makes you think these features won't have that?

Take Judy out for a movie date, enjoy a sweet scene before some psycho pops up and needs to be taken care of.
Which starts a new quest on its own.

Or have these NPCs accompany you on those brain dead gigs and have them provide commentary or maybe trigger a custom quest for that character that leads to a secondary quest.

Like Judy discovers a clue that leads to an illegal human trafficking place that you need to bring down.

Completely close ended quest that impacts none of the major storylines but gives players a lot of opportunities to have fun with Judy.

Totally agree with you! we need more interaction to give quality to our experience in NC, all this just gives us a better game, and for sure an amazing experience that we will remember forever.

CDPR Just give me the possibility to roleplay in your game and enjoy the city with my romance Judy .

 

[Mentos3]

i never played valhalla but in skyrim marriage didnt mean anything the only game i have ever seen do relationships well is Mass effect series and that was nothing but writing

In Valhalla you can roll over the pillows with your chosen one, go fishing, play the minigame, go hunting, I think.
Life in 8th England.
No you didn't need that. It would be just a option, for people who like to have sidecontent. Nobody need fancy clothes, cars, appartment (haha), different weapons, radiochannels either to play the game. Everything what has nothing to do with stats is optional.

 

[eidius]

Sorry but judy is not a fighter, having her around its just a weight (much like the skyrim companion), she will get killed in five seconds, you want to involve her? make her a fixer

I dispise fixers with every fiber of my being.
If I could remove their existance and their spam calls I would.

Its straight out of GTA 4 and that cousin that kept wanting to go bowling.

 

[yota71]

I dispise fixers with every fiber of my being.
If I could remove their existance and their spam calls I would.

so its nice have spam calls from your love, but is not nice to have spam calls from a fixer?
Making her a fixer will not exclude the romance options, and she can be writen far better then the others fixer, she can give you her quest in her "office" without phone calls.
Or even better, make her a netrunner (its pretty fitting with jude) that aid you in you mission, so you can be with your love

 

[Shaamaan]

I'd like to point out that the launch trailer says "chose who's at your side". There isn't really a choice, is there? There's ONE straight option, and ONE gay option, and that's it. Unless your V is bisexual that means you either get to form a relationship with ONE character, out of all of Night City... or no one at all.

Yeah, big choice, that one! Thanks CDPR!

 

[Strangeroous]

Maybe you can agree with me or not people, but i think that a game like cyberpunk, an RPG, with such a world to explore and to live infinite types of experiences it is neccesary to have more deep interactions with special characters like Judy/Panam/Kerry/River.. for me the biggest problem with the game isnt bugs, because CDPR will patch it sooner or later, but the interactions... this game needs interaction, i´m not saying it needs to be like sims.. when you finish the game, there is nothing more to do.. and with cyberpunk, that is the biggest issue in my opinion.

The romances in this game are the strongest arm of it, it can include more interactions with the world and V, for example as you Strangerous said in your thread, you could "hang out" with your partner, because why not? you could simply go to judys house and see her cooking or making different stuff with different dialogs, cause why not?. upgrade your car will not remove the feeling that you are alone in the city.. (i say this cause a lot of people is just focusing on this and in my oppinion it is something that is cool to implement and of course it adds some immersion but not enaugh for change the feeling of being alone.

I dont care what people can say, i fell in love with the characters of this game, specially with Judy, her storyline is BEAUTIFUL, you can see how well written is this character, but for this i think they must bring us the opportunity to enjoy more time with them in NC, cause this game deserves to keep players playing for ages this game, not only for a few weeks..

Simple mechanics like:

When you go to the romance homes, you can see them making different stuff, it gives the player the feeling they are alive in this world and have things to do.

"Hang out": As at the start of this thread, it is something we have since gta SA... so i dont see the point of why it isnt possible in NC..

To intimate, yes, Judy/Panam/Kerry/River.. they can be your romance so why not to add some dialogs that finish on a kiss and them a repetible mission that appears and say "sleep with (Your romance), then a black screen appears and you wake up in the bed with the romance looking at you saying something cool to you or funny, that makes you believe that NC is alive! and that for me in a videogame is something that marks the difference for sure.

More random messages, as you Strangerous said,

More activities around the city to enjoy with your partner (not nessesary complicated things, just imagine being able to visit bars, discos... it is in the game with an amazing design.. the animations are actually in the game so it must be not so difficult to implement.

About the wedding, i said it in another thread and i think it could be a very beautiful way to get to the top of confidence and feeling with your romance, Judy gives you her house, and Perales is married to miss Peralez, so... maybe in game it takes a few weeks but also for future dlcs it can be an idea that could be used.

In this kind of games, the INTERACTION with the world means a lot, and with such beautiful and well done characters, i think it must be one of the priorities for CDPR to bring life to them, Cyberpunk has A LOT of pottencial, why not to use it?

Again my friend... can't agree more ... Thank you for your opinion!

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In my opinion, it's not about making this game a life simulator.
Start of your relationship is basically the end of it as well.

It would be enough to write more messages. Health questions, chip and progress questions, and more.
Adding optional small missions, city rides, city or apartment meetings. (You don't want? You're not doing these missions.)

The most important are the dialogues that are missing, the same all the time, one added after the relationship.

Untapped potential of romances.

Thanks for the opinion!

 

[yota71]

I'd like to point out that the launch trailer says "chose who's at your side". There isn't really a choice, is there? There's ONE straight option, and ONE gay option, and that's it. Unless your V is bisexual that means you either get to form a relationship with ONE character, out of all of Night City... or no one at all.

Yeah, big choice, that one! Thanks CDPR!

Witcher 3 teaches, you can have a foot in two shoes or you will pay

 

[Strangeroous]

its not about making this game life simulator.. is about creating inmmersion thanks to different type of interactions, cause this is the RPG with the best world and the best characters i had the pleasure to play, and i can see the amazing pottencial it has, we need something repetible as i said, because messages, progress and all that has an end, look to gta, you were able to hang out with the other characters even when you passed the game, was it bad for the game? No, so why not to bring it here?

Also many people like me would love to roleplay in the game, because this game is amazing for that, others like fallout has people playing all the time for ages, is because the history or missions? no, is because the roleplay you can have in that kind of games the reason why even today are popular.
To add this kind of things is not difficult, so i think it only can bring life and detail.

I just find incomplete the history of the romances, it needs more depth and it really deserves more attention.

I just feel like this game was made for this ... There is no coincidence that this game actually made me feel strong emotions ( It's kinda weird .. but it actually did .. i even felt depressed a bit, sad ...) ... They just made this game so good... And if they added these features ... then this game would've been on another level. There's just no way that the game is just a simulator .. I've never experienced something like that .. And this game did it...

 

[yota71]

I just feel like this game was made for this ... There is no coincidence that this game actually made me feel strong emotions ( It's kinda weird .. but it actually did .. i even felt depressed a bit, sad ...) ... They just made this game so good... And if they added these features ... then this game would've been on another level. There's just no way that the game is just a simulator .. I've never experienced something like that .. And this game did it...

Really? on the romance part i experienced almost nothing its just a side mission, i have done this thing hundred of times (dragon age, mass effect and so on) maybe because i have alredy my love in life

 

[eidius]

so its nice have spam calls from your love, but is not nice to have spam calls from a fixer?
Making her a fixer will not exclude the romance options, and she can be writen far better then the others fixer, she can give you her quest in her "office" without phone calls.
Or even better, make her a netrunner (its pretty fitting with jude) that aid you in you mission, so you can be with your love

Spam repetitive exposition voice lines is not something most people find enjoyable.

One of the greatest tenants of visual media is "show it. Dont tell it."

No one likes boring exposition. So making Judy a fixer would make her an exposition machine rather than an actual character.

 

[Strangeroous]

Really? on the romance part i experienced almost nothing its just a side mission, i have done this thing hundred of times (dragon age, mass effect and so on) maybe because i have alredy my love in life

I experienced it while i was playing the last mission (main story) ... The choices... the voice messages at the end.. hit really hard ...

 

[yota71]

No one likes boring exposition. So making Judy a fixer would make her an exposition machine rather than an actual character.

so make her a netrunner no? netrunner are not good?

 

[eidius]

so make her a netrunner no? netrunner are not good?

I feel like you are not understanding a word I am saying.

Well whatever. You do you.

 

[XxSalviixX]

Really? on the romance part i experienced almost nothing its just a side mission, i have done this thing hundred of times (dragon age, mass effect and so on) maybe because i have alredy my love in life

Not everyone is the same or feels the same as you do, in my oppinion is normal to get feelings with a character of a game, because the same happens with books or even movies, we are humans and we feel, if you have a partner in real life doesnt matter, cause when a person plays deep to a game, it teleports him to another world, so people who feels the history incomplete or feels sad for how the romance history ended, is because they lived their experience in cyberpunk at 100%, and i understand their feelings cause i feel the same as many others... again.. i see the pottencial that this game has, and im sure this game deserves more immersion, interaction and more history for our romances (all of them).

 

[Strangeroous]

Not everyone is the same or feels the same as you do, in my oppinion is normal to get feelings with a character of a game, because the same happens with books or even movies, we are humans and we feel, if you have a partner in real life doesnt matter, cause when a person plays deep to a game, it teleports him to another world, so people who feels the history incomplete or feels sad for how the romance history ended, is because they lived their experience in cyberpunk at 100%, and i understand their feelings cause i feel the same as many others... again.. i see the pottencial that this game has, and im sure this game deserves more immersion, interaction and more history for our romances (all of them).

God bless you .. Amen!!

 

[yota71]

I feel like you are not understanding a word I am saying.

Well whatever. You do you.

i understand you want to interact with her in person, not trough calls, well but then she must be killable, so you can pay the consequences

 

[eidius]

i understand you want to interact with her in person, not trough calls, well but then she must be killable, so you can pay the consequences

Says who? You are just arbitrarily adding random requirements.

All I want is less lazy "once upon a time there was a cyberpscho..." i don't care. Stop talking random NPC. Don't lecture me. Just show me.

Show me the story, don't tell it to me through cheap exposition or honestly don't bother at all.

 

[Trinixy]

dialogue yes, a lot, shard yes, but not a dating sim

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The problem is that s lot of people cares about romance, i care more about story and open world

Am sorry but with all due respect, the dating sim fearmongering argument at this point is just a lazy way of trying to dismiss the topic while comfortably avoiding to address its merits or flaws. It is tride and true gray matter residue at this forum that seeks to dishearten those that are invested and have them defend something the game isn't and never will be. You can offer better in terms of a response.

The game already tries to be so many things, it is an RPG, an action game, a detective simulator, a racing game, a looter shooter, it wants to be an open world game but the interactivity with the world holds it back, but with all that somehow a more meaningful romance would stand out as a sore thumb? I don't see people worried that it would become a racing game if more racing tracks and features were added to, why do the romances pose a threat?
But the biggest issue is that it seems to appear to some people that romances are excluding story or even gameplay. To even get to the point in which your relationship starts, you have to go tru story, tru quests, dialogues, choices, bullets, and you can mess it up and guess what, you can even ignore it altogether so it won't ever be the dreaded evil dating sim. Any of the above mentioned suggestions towards improvements can easily be tied in to the game at large and go alongside other features. And those that aren't, lets be honest how much of the game would they take up? More casual interactivity, that is followed with dialogue with our romance partners. Around 5%, if we want to be generous? Is that really a worry?

The problem is that s lot of people cares about romance, i care more about story and open world

This response confuses me because it throws out everything you seem to care about. You barefaced say that there is a problem that people care about romances, but then add that you care about story and open world. Put aside the obvious self-importance underlining this sentiment, you again say that these are mutually exclusive or would be mutually exclusive in future content. Why wouldn't romances be a driving factor in future story content, why wouldn't they follow or be allowed to influence it, giving more depth and investment to the player? Why wouldn't romance quests take you to interact with the world and explore it?
But also, that sentence alone should tell you that you are not really interested in the topic, so what holds you back from going to increase the voices of those in other threads that advocate for more story and open world, the way you see them to be as such?

And if you wish to use the dystopian argument for your reasoning. Okey, lets see: we have murders, so we have detective work, we have violence so we have guns to respond with, we have oppression so we form gangs, we have moral depravity so we create own morals to respond. But guess what, the best way to respond to a dystopia is by protecting moral virtues and love. Because if those aren't present you won't even know you live in a dystopia, conflict would be meaningless if the dystopia already crushed any good that is left. The worst thing in a dystopia is not the loss of life, it is the realization that the world is void of any moral value and nothing in it is left to be protected. That is the horror of it.

And because these romances are present in it, you are allowed to see that there is still hope for this world and that you have a reason to actually protect something of value. They create the counter balance to the violence and therefore drive the player experience of the world from a different angle. In that sense they contribute to the story of the world. Taking that away to make the point that life is harsh would be a great way to kill any motivation or hope in the player. Unless feeling edgy in some sort of depression is a thing you wanna go with, it won't make for future sales. Best example, TLOU2, check that story and ending. Violence bad yow! Go figure.

I apologize, my response doesn't necessarily address the lack of romancing depth as per thread topic, it just tries to validate its importance in CP2077.

 

[Mikeindeepspace]

In Valhalla you can roll over the pillows with your chosen one, go fishing, play the minigame, go hunting, I think.
Life in 8th England.
No you didn't need that. It would be just a option, for people who like to have sidecontent. Nobody need fancy clothes, cars, appartment (haha), different weapons, radiochannels either to play the game. Everything what has nothing to do with stats is optional.

LMAO with that logic why have good graphics or mechanics? My point is the problem with the romance is the writing i dont care about having sex whenever i want or going fishing its about the payoff and i thought panam's was good not much action in between missions but i liked her ending so i would consider it good

 

[Mentos3]

LMAO with that logic why have good graphics or mechanics?

Right. We all could play Pong. And save much money.

My point is the problem with the romance is the writing i dont care about having sex whenever i want or going fishing its about the payoff and i thought panam's was good not much action in between missions but i liked her ending so i would consider it good

Between the Sidemission with Panam and the ending is nothing. I took a ride to the badlands, V all happy that he has a girlfriend in his sh*tty situation. And all she said was: "Hi, V" or something like that.
I mean: Wow.
Why have the romance option in there in the beginning?
I didn't do much with the romance options in Valhalla, too. But at least there was the option.