You sound like a real fine gentleman. "Hey, I won't help you because you're not my girlfriend. Date me and I will help you out!" is not a good take, Chad. If you try to romance her, she does keep telling you "Don't try it" among other things. Whats insulting is that you were too deaf to take a hint.
I'm assuming that was in response to my message. I was saying it's unrealistic to make a straight character gay, or a gay character straight just because the player chose a male or female. You disagree with that?It's unrealistic to have gays, straights, bisexuals!
Your fanfcitions is not "canon". Art isn't about representation, it's about expression. The audience doesn't get to decide what the artist expresses. Sexuality has never been what Cyberpunk as a genre is about, that's you inserting your own obsessions into it.
Well, on that we agree. Your post seemed to imply otherwise; that there shouldn't be gays or straights. But to act surprised and sad that Judy very early on shows she's strictly only into women and you still made the effort to romance her when she shuts you down twice. It's just... she's a lesbian man. While it's odd that the game gives you more than once the chance to flirt with her, you still kept flirting with her. What did you expect her to say?
"It's not a good take"? It's a video game - you can do worst things in it than not being chivalrous toward Judy. Wow, chill out. lol
I'd argue that triple A games don't have the luxury to be about artistic expression. While there is plenty of art in them, at the end of the day they are product with he function to sell to consumers.
To me, it seems like the attitude goes a lot deeper than video games in your case. You wouldn't need to take it up on a forum if you were fine running around as a friend for someone.
Yea, I think not everybody around here fully get's that... "mature audience" indeed.
Saying a character should be bi instead of gay is not criticism of the work, it's inserting your own desire into it.
Oh don't get me wrong. I don't want them to change already existing character's sexuality. I want them to offer better alternatives.
Jeez, you seemed to have misinterpreted my post from beginning to end, didn't ya? I clearly said that she didn't state that she was only into woman until the very last chapter of her story. I'm not blaming Judy's character for that - I'm blaming whichever developer wrote/programmed the scenario. They didn't make it clear early on that you had no chance as male V to romance her, and when they finally did, they kept giving you options to flirt - which is quite literally an invitation to romance her. But, keep acting like you have some type of moral high ground over me for how I played a videogame. You're fighting the good fight...Well, on that we agree. Your post seemed to imply otherwise; that there shouldn't be gays or straights. But to act surprised and sad that Judy very early on shows she's strictly only into women and you still made the effort to romance her when she shuts you down twice. It's just... she's a lesbian man. While it's odd that the game gives you more than once the chance to flirt with her, you still kept flirting with her. What did you expect her to say?
Also her asking you for help is not invitation to romance her.
She DID stated. Just because you're blind and decided to ignore VERY, VERY obvious hints it's no one's fault but your own.
Actually if you looked into various messages, and her only mentioning women.. you get the gist. Literally all her exes were women only. An old crush she mentions in the diving scene, Maiko was her ex, and possibly Evelyn too. You just decided to ignore the stuff she says. Or maybe you didn't see them which is also ok.
This is the problem with making the love interests have such strictly defined preferences. How many love interests do you end up needing then? 4 (1 male and female straight 1 male and female gay) obviously isn't making people happy. Some male V's want Judy or River, some female V's want Panam instead of Judy, etc..
Before the final chapter, where did she state that male V had no chance? The very first time I even had an option to flirt was when she invited me to go diving and was given the option to ask if it was a date. That's when she said "You're not my type, dude."
I don't know. I think they simply need to make 4 equally well written characters. 6 if you wanna be bo inclusive. They already 4 and a half love interests in the game counting Meredith. The issue is, Judy and Panam were clearly given a lot more attention by the writers than River or Kerry were.
I didn't see "dating sim" in the descriptions of this game. Maybe the problem isn't the game, but what YOU want out of it.
